Re: how do I tell what release yum upgrade will give me?

2013-07-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 02:16 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-07-29 22:51 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: > > >> how do those who want to keep a system on Rawhide instead of > >> switching to branch after each branch occurs do it? > > > There isn't a particularly easy way, you just have to

Re: how do I tell what release yum upgrade will give me?

2013-07-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-07-29 22:51 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: how do those who want to keep a system on Rawhide instead of switching to branch after each branch occurs do it? There isn't a particularly easy way, you just have to make sure fedora-release-rawhide is installed and tweak the enabled r

Re: how do I tell what release yum upgrade will give me?

2013-07-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 01:25 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-07-29 21:54 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: > > > On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 23:56 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> I have one system running 19 last updated 3 months ago, after 19 branched. > >> Release and release-rawhide are both

Re: how do I tell what release yum upgrade will give me?

2013-07-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-07-29 21:54 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 23:56 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I have one system running 19 last updated 3 months ago, after 19 branched. Release and release-rawhide are both at 19-0.5. How can I tell what yum upgrade would leave me with, whethe

Re: how do I tell what release yum upgrade will give me?

2013-07-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 23:56 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > I have one system running 19 last updated 3 months ago, after 19 branched. > Release and release-rawhide are both at 19-0.5. How can I tell what yum > upgrade would leave me with, whether 19 final or rawhide/20? Presumably, > because upgrad

rawhide - dnf - kernel extra update

2013-07-29 Thread poma
Hi, Should the kernel-extra belong to the installs, and not to the upgrades? # dnf --version 0.3.10 Installed: dnf-0:0.3.10-1.giteb9dddb.fc20.noarch at 2013-07-23 19:44 Built: Fedora Project at 2013-07-22 12:52 Installed: rpm-0:4.11.1-3.fc20.i686 at 2013-07-06 20:35 Built: Fedora

how do I tell what release yum upgrade will give me?

2013-07-29 Thread Felix Miata
I have one system running 19 last updated 3 months ago, after 19 branched. Release and release-rawhide are both at 19-0.5. How can I tell what yum upgrade would leave me with, whether 19 final or rawhide/20? Presumably, because upgrade last was post-branch, upgrading would remove release-rawhide

More on Noveau stalls

2013-07-29 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
Today I started VLC playing a few hours' worth of MP3s. Eventually the display froze on a screensaver. The music played on for an hour or more after I powered down the display. When I returned the display had lost signal. Hitting the shift key resored a video signal. The screen was mostly blank

Re: I'm seeing odd udev stuff in F20

2013-07-29 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/29/2013 03:09 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 07:16 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> I've been having sound issues for over a week. The sound devices are not >> visible to pulseaudio. At first they would be for a while and dis

Re: cups

2013-07-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:20 AM, richard.vicker...@gmail.com wrote: > > I thought CUPS was developed by the open source community; I was just setting > up the printer and impressed that the program called up the commands itself, > and thought one of us was responsible for making it so easy, even

Re: cups

2013-07-29 Thread richard . vickeryrv
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rawhide report: 20130729 changes

2013-07-29 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Jul 29 08:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for i386 -- [aether-ant-tasks] aether-ant-tasks-1.0-0.7.SNAPSHOT.fc20.noarch requires mvn(org.sonatype.aether:aether-util) aether-ant-tasks-1.0-0.7.SNAPSHOT.fc20.noa

Re: Rawhide stuttering

2013-07-29 Thread Christian Menzel
I also experience this behavior in an updated F19. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > Now and then Xorg goes to high CPU load. > Mouse cursor becomes sluggish and jumpy. > Internet videos become jerky also. > > -- > Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX c...@omen.com www.o

Rawhide stuttering

2013-07-29 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
Now and then Xorg goes to high CPU load. Mouse cursor becomes sluggish and jumpy. Internet videos become jerky also. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software"

Re: cups

2013-07-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 19:44 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > I have to take a moment and shout out KUDOS to whomever it was / is > that is working on cups! Although, by necessity, I and others who have > been around a while know how to work with the commands, having the > machine do it for the user

[Test-Announce] CANCELLED: 2013-07-29 Fedora QA Meeting

2013-07-29 Thread Adam Williamson
As no significant items have been proposed for this week's meeting agenda and we have no follow-up to do, the meeting for this morning (2013-07-29) is canceled. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happya

Re: I'm seeing odd udev stuff in F20

2013-07-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 07:16 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I've been having sound issues for over a week. The sound devices are not > visible to pulseaudio. At first they would be for a while and disappear, > not I can't seem to get pulseaudio to see them ever. (I have have a > motherboard soun