Fedora 18 updates-testing report

2013-09-25 Thread updates
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing: Age URL 159 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6117/eucalyptus-3.2.2-1.fc18 71 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-13131/livecd-tools-18.17-1.fc18 55 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-09-25 21:33 (GMT-0400) Gavin Flower composed: On 26/09/13 13:26, David wrote: On 9/25/2013 9:13 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: On 09/25/2013 05:45 PM, David wrote: On 9/25/2013 7:19 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: Several of my machies have SATA hot swap ports. These make it easy t

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread Gavin Flower
On 26/09/13 15:53, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 09/25/2013 06:13 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: My concern is wether this procedure results in a kernel that is less optimized for the CPU it is running on than if Fedora had been installed directly on that machine. I don't know enough about Fedora ins

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 09/25/2013 06:13 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: My concern is wether this procedure results in a kernel that is less optimized for the CPU it is running on than if Fedora had been installed directly on that machine. I don't know enough about Fedora installation to know what, if any, process

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 09:38:47PM -0400, David wrote: > Well. Than answers that then. You now have a somewhat limited eclectic David, please remember that the Fedora code of conduct applies to your participation here. Without even getting into the appropriateness of the metaphor you've chosen, th

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread Kevin Martin
On 09/25/13 20:38, David wrote: > On 9/25/2013 9:33 PM, Gavin Flower wrote: >> On 26/09/13 13:26, David wrote: >>> On 9/25/2013 9:13 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: On 09/25/2013 05:45 PM, David wrote: > On 9/25/2013 7:19 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: >> Several of my machies have

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread David
On 9/25/2013 9:33 PM, Gavin Flower wrote: > On 26/09/13 13:26, David wrote: >> On 9/25/2013 9:13 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: >>> On 09/25/2013 05:45 PM, David wrote: On 9/25/2013 7:19 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > Several of my machies have SATA hot swap ports. > These make i

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread nonamedotc
On 09/25/2013 06:19 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: Several of my machies have SATA hot swap ports. These make it easy to use smaller drives as backup media. When RC4 came out I installed it on a 4 TB drive using an older E6550 machine. At my leisure I added lots of apps and libs that I norma

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread Gavin Flower
On 26/09/13 13:26, David wrote: On 9/25/2013 9:13 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: On 09/25/2013 05:45 PM, David wrote: On 9/25/2013 7:19 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: Several of my machies have SATA hot swap ports. These make it easy to use smaller drives as backup media. When RC4 came ou

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 06:13:48PM -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > I don't know enough about Fedora installation to know what, > if any, processor related optimizations are made in the install > instead of boot time. This is perfectly fine and will work, with one big exception -- by default,

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread David
On 9/25/2013 9:13 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > On 09/25/2013 05:45 PM, David wrote: >> On 9/25/2013 7:19 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: >>> Several of my machies have SATA hot swap ports. >>> These make it easy to use smaller drives as backup media. >>> >>> When RC4 came out I installed it

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
On 09/25/2013 05:45 PM, David wrote: On 9/25/2013 7:19 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: Several of my machies have SATA hot swap ports. These make it easy to use smaller drives as backup media. When RC4 came out I installed it on a 4 TB drive using an older E6550 machine. At my leisure I added

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread David
On 9/25/2013 7:19 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > Several of my machies have SATA hot swap ports. > These make it easy to use smaller drives as backup media. > > When RC4 came out I installed it on a 4 TB drive using an > older E6550 machine. At my leisure I added lots of apps > and libs that

A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-25 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
Several of my machies have SATA hot swap ports. These make it easy to use smaller drives as backup media. When RC4 came out I installed it on a 4 TB drive using an older E6550 machine. At my leisure I added lots of apps and libs that I normally use. Then I slipped that drive in my omen.com serv

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 15:27 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > But more hilarity ensues when I use Gnome shell to change Device name. > Static hostname is shifted to transient hostname, the entered name > becomes the pretty name, and static has a - added to it in a way that > makes no sense compared to

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 14:37 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > I rebooted, changing nothing else. Now I can't ssh in as oldmac.local, > I have to use f20s.local. And now transient doesn't show up. So if I > change things, I get some changes in behavior. If I restart processes, > I get more changes in be

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > >> b. Disk value is 1.4TB. This computer has a 500GB drive in it and that's it. >> No LVM thinp is being used either. > > What does gvfs-info -f / report ? Filed as: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708786 Chris Murphy --

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 23:11 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3253801/IMG_20130924_185026.jpg >> >> Settings>System: Details >> >> a. Device name is showing hostnamectl transient name, not static name. I >>

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > What does gvfs-info -f / report ? [root@f20s ~]# gvfs-info -f / attributes: filesystem::size: 464519168000 filesystem::free: 459891695616 filesystem::type: btrfs filesystem::used: 3916201984 Chris Murphy -- test mailing list

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Sep 25, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> hostnamectl --static set-hostname f20s.localdomain >> hostnamectl --transient set-hostname oldmac.localdomain > > OK so just did that and now I'm getting different behavior.

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

2013-09-25 Thread John Morris
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 18:17 -0700, Bob Arendt wrote: > The Fedora bugzilla, even if occasionally non-responsive, is > *very* convenient. One can at least see if other users are > experiencing the same issue. And other Fedora users cat > at least leave bug comments that might aid other users > (e

Re: [SPAM] [Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 20 Alpha!

2013-09-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 19:51 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > > On 09/24/2013 07:46 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 17:08 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > >> Łukasz Posadowski (m...@lukaszposadowski.pl) said: > > >>> Fedora,

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 23:11 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3253801/IMG_20130924_185026.jpg > > Settings>System: Details > > a. Device name is showing hostnamectl transient name, not static name. I just > tried this in F19 and it shows the static name. So this se

F20 Beta Blocker Bug Review #1 Minutes

2013-09-25 Thread Tim Flink
#fedora-blocker-review: f20beta-blocker-review-1 Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-09-25/f20beta-blocker-review-1.2013-09-25-16.01.html Minutes (text): http://me

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 10:26 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sep 25, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > By my understanding, if there's a 'transient' hostname then it is likely > > to be the currently "active" hostname, not the 'static' one. > > Well that's a problem. Linguistically

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > > The commands should be: > > hostnamectl --static set-hostname f20s.localdomain > hostnamectl --transient set-hostname oldmac.localdomain > > Not sure what happens if you place the options after the commands. Yes I see in the ma

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > hostnamectl --static set-hostname f20s.localdomain > hostnamectl --transient set-hostname oldmac.localdomain OK so just did that and now I'm getting different behavior. 1. man hostnamectl says "The static hostname is stored in /et

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/25/2013 09:11 AM, Chris Murphy issued this missive: On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:00 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 23:11 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3253801/IMG_20130924_185026.jpg Settings>System: Details a. Device name is showing hostnam

Re: [Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 20 Alpha!

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 2:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 12:42 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: >> Can we create 1GB/4GB/8GB images separately from now on for different people? > > God, no. Then we have three images to test, check the size of, and prune > while keeping a sane p

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:00 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 23:11 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3253801/IMG_20130924_185026.jpg >> >> Settings>System: Details >> >> a. Device name is showing hostnamectl transient name, not static name. I >> j

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > By my understanding, if there's a 'transient' hostname then it is likely > to be the currently "active" hostname, not the 'static' one. Well that's a problem. Linguistically transient means impermanent, so it should be the least likely ho

[Fedora QA] #420: Power management testday

2013-09-25 Thread Fedora QA
#420: Power management testday --+ Reporter: jskarvad | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 20 Component: Test Day | Version: Keywords:| Blocked By: Blocking:

Re: Question: What are Fedora 20 test days business hours in Europe

2013-09-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/25/2013 02:43 PM, Kamil Paral wrote: Hi, I'll try to organize a few people locally in Sofia to participate in Fedora 20 test days, currently interested in Virtualization Test Day and Gnome Test Day on Oct 8th and 10th. looking at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-10-10_Gnome_3

Re: Question: What are Fedora 20 test days business hours in Europe

2013-09-25 Thread Kamil Paral
> > Hi, > > > I'll try to organize a few people locally in Sofia to > > participate in Fedora 20 test days, currently interested in > > Virtualization Test Day and Gnome Test Day on Oct 8th and 10th. > > looking at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-10-10_Gnome_3.10 I > see a few names

Installing F20 alpha reusing LVM logical volumes

2013-09-25 Thread Gene Czarcinski
Anyone who plans to install F20 alpha where they will be re-using existing LVM logical volumes should first look at this bugzilla report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009678 While the problem definitely shows up with a kickstart install it may also be true with a regular instal

2013-08-12 to 2013-09-23 - Fedora QA Meeting - recaps

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
Another recap catch-up I'm afraid, folks - sorry! Minutes and transcripts of the meetings between 2013-08-12 and 2013-09-23 are now available on the Wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130812 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130819 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meet

Re: [Test-Announce] 2013-09-25 @ 16:00 UTC - F20 Beta Blocker Bug Review #1

2013-09-25 Thread Kamil Paral
> # F20 Beta Blocker Review meeting #1 > # Date: 2013-09-25 > # Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) > # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Tim, can you please add it to our calendar? https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/QA/ That would be awesome, thanks. -- test mailing l

Re: [Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 20 Alpha!

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 12:42 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > Can we create 1GB/4GB/8GB images separately from now on for different people? God, no. Then we have three images to test, check the size of, and prune while keeping a sane package set for. Do you think we're *short* of work, or something

Re: [SPAM] [Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 20 Alpha!

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 19:51 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > On 09/24/2013 07:46 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 17:08 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > >> Łukasz Posadowski (m...@lukaszposadowski.pl) said: > >>> Fedora, you did it again. :) But I hoped you would remember th

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 23:11 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3253801/IMG_20130924_185026.jpg > > Settings>System: Details > > a. Device name is showing hostnamectl transient name, not static name. I just > tried this in F19 and it shows the static name. So this se