Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-27 Thread Gavin Flower
On 28/09/13 13:53, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 08:49:51PM -0500, dkrawchuk wrote: I agree. I find these digressions interesting and informative. They _really do_ keep coming up. What if we create a Fedora Old-Timers list for this kind of discussion? I'm not even kidding -- I'

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 08:49:51PM -0500, dkrawchuk wrote: > I agree.  I find these digressions interesting and informative. They _really do_ keep coming up. What if we create a Fedora Old-Timers list for this kind of discussion? I'm not even kidding -- I'll join. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-27 Thread dkrawchuk
I agree.  I find these digressions interesting and informative. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: "Clyde E. Kunkel" Date: 09-27-2013 12:18 PM (GMT-06:00) To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases Subject: Re: A different way of installing Fe

Re: maintaining minimal

2013-09-27 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 9/27/2013 6:27 PM, Felix Miata wrote: I'm not having any luck figuring out how Yum can be limited to installing only hard dependencies when any given package is installed, avoiding "nice to have" things that take time to install and update that I'll never use. If this is covered in the yum.con

Fedora 19 updates-testing report

2013-09-27 Thread updates
The following Fedora 19 Security updates need testing: Age URL 56 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-14029/zabbix-2.0.6-3.fc19 43 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-14814/python-glanceclient-0.9.0-3.fc19 8 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDO

maintaining minimal

2013-09-27 Thread Felix Miata
I'm not having any luck figuring out how Yum can be limited to installing only hard dependencies when any given package is installed, avoiding "nice to have" things that take time to install and update that I'll never use. If this is covered in the yum.conf man page I missed it. In zypper's zypp

Fedora 18 updates-testing report

2013-09-27 Thread updates
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing: Age URL 160 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6117/eucalyptus-3.2.2-1.fc18 72 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-13131/livecd-tools-18.17-1.fc18 56 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2

Fedora 20 updates-testing report

2013-09-27 Thread updates
The following Fedora 20 Security updates need testing: Age URL 8 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17171/hplip-3.13.9-2.fc20 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17338/seamonkey-2.21-1.fc20 4 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1739

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-27 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
On 09/27/2013 01:43 PM, Gavin Flower wrote: On 28/09/13 05:18, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 09/27/2013 01:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 22:06 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: I do find the 'who's been using computers longer?' competitions that seem to be ensuing on all sorts o

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-27 Thread Gavin Flower
On 28/09/13 05:18, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 09/27/2013 01:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 22:06 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: I do find the 'who's been using computers longer?' competitions that seem to be ensuing on all sorts of lists lately a bit tiresome :) Why tireso

no initramfs for rescue kernels?

2013-09-27 Thread Chris Murphy
This must be transient, even though it always happens for me, because otherwise there wouldn't be the luks encryption blocker bug for the rescue kernel. That person obviously has an initramfs. Yet there's an old F19 bug that was never proposed as blocker from someone else who ran into this (app

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-27 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/27/2013 01:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 22:06 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: I do find the 'who's been using computers longer?' competitions that seem to be ensuing on all sorts of lists lately a bit tiresome :) Why tiresome? It is a bit interesting. Way better t

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 22:06 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: > > > > > That hasn't been the case for rather a long time. > I've been around a long time... :-) > > The second computer I programmed (using FORTRAN IV) was an IBM 1130. The point I was making is that it is not a current concern. Maybe int

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-27 Thread Gavin Flower
On 27/09/13 19:02, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 16:23 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: On 26/09/13 15:53, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 09/25/2013 06:13 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: My concern is wether this procedure results in a kernel that is less optimized for the CPU it is running

Re: Update criteria change and proposal

2013-09-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 17:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > For those who weren't present at today's blocker review meeting - > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-09-18/ - we > agreed to change the Alpha criteria to require only console updating to > work, and move the requ

Re: cronie rpm error

2013-09-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 15:43 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.9wvQS9: line 2: fg: no job control > error: %preun(cronie-1.4.11-1.fc20.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 > Error in PREUN scriptlet in rpm package cronie > error: cronie-1.4.11-1.fc20.x86_64: erase failed This kind of

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 16:23 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: > On 26/09/13 15:53, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 09/25/2013 06:13 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > > > My concern is wether this procedure results in a kernel that is > > > less optimized for the CPU it is running on than if Fedora had >