Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 23:00 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > > FWIW, it doesn't look remotely like one to me or anyone else currently > > discussing it in #fedora-devel. > > While I do not want to overrule any decisions made, I would like to note > tha

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:00:30 -0500 Bill Nottingham wrote: > While I do not want to overrule any decisions made, I would like to > note that asking for self-selected opinions (in a > not-the-most-diverse community) on whether an item is potentially > offensive to a minority is a somewhat problemat

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:25:52 -0800 James Patterson wrote: > Hello, > > I noticed the new Fedora 20 wallpaper looks like a swastika. It > would be great if it didn't for the final release, it would upset a > few people. Are you Jewish or German, serious question? If neither why do you presume th

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > FWIW, it doesn't look remotely like one to me or anyone else currently > discussing it in #fedora-devel. While I do not want to overrule any decisions made, I would like to note that asking for self-selected opinions (in a not-the-most-diverse communi

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/20/13 08:38, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: > On 11/19/2013 10:02 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: >> On 11/19/2013 05:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> There really isn't any need for alarmism. We're talking about >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F20-alpha-wallpaper-wide.png . >>> No-one is gettin

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 11/19/2013 10:02 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 11/19/2013 05:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: There really isn't any need for alarmism. We're talking about https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F20-alpha-wallpaper-wide.png . No-one is getting sued into oblivion by Bill Gates or anyone else. Why do

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 11/19/2013 05:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > There really isn't any need for alarmism. We're talking about > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F20-alpha-wallpaper-wide.png . > No-one is getting sued into oblivion by Bill Gates or anyone else. Why > do so many people seem to want to default to

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Richard Vickery
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 15:31 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 11:25 -0800, James Patterson wrote: > > > Hello, > > >

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, If you suggest to someone that this wallpaper looks like a swastika - it might look so. When I look at this image and I don't think about swastika I don't see it. It's just a power of suggestion - nothing more from my POV. (And yeah, I live in country where we take such things seriously. The

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 15:31 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 11:25 -0800, James Patterson wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I noticed the new Fedora 20 wallpaper looks like a swastika.

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Richard Vickery
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 11:25 -0800, James Patterson wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I noticed the new Fedora 20 wallpaper looks like a swastika. It would be > > great if it didn't for the final release, it would upset a few people. > > > > I filed

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Richard Michael
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 16:52 -0500, Richard Michael wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Eric Blake wrote: >> > On 11/19/2013 02:39 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> > >> >> Something went wrong in your installation. NATed networking

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 16:52 -0500, Richard Michael wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Eric Blake wrote: > > On 11/19/2013 02:39 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > > > >> Something went wrong in your installation. NATed networking is created > >> and enabled on F20 by default. Personally I ha

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Richard Michael
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Eric Blake wrote: > On 11/19/2013 02:39 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > >> Something went wrong in your installation. NATed networking is created >> and enabled on F20 by default. Personally I hate this, I don't use it >> and always disable it but as Adam mention

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Eric Blake
On 11/19/2013 02:39 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > Something went wrong in your installation. NATed networking is created > and enabled on F20 by default. Personally I hate this, I don't use it > and always disable it but as Adam mentioned there are a lot of different > use cases and user's nee

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 19.11.2013 22:25, Richard Michael wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 13:35 -0500, Richard Michael wrote: >> >>> Aside, I'm wondering if F20 should have already created a bridge for >>> libvirt (e.g., should I need to create it myself?). I

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Richard Michael
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 13:35 -0500, Richard Michael wrote: > >> Aside, I'm wondering if F20 should have already created a bridge for >> libvirt (e.g., should I need to create it myself?). I selected the >> 'Virtualization' group. Perhaps t

Re: 386 issues

2013-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 12:01 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > I decided to try installing 386 Beta TC1 on one of my machines > that normally runs Win7 or 64 bit Linux. > > The 386 netinst failed to get to Anaconda from two USB drives > and a CD. I checked the sha256 sums of the file and comp

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 11:25 -0800, James Patterson wrote: > Hello, > > I noticed the new Fedora 20 wallpaper looks like a swastika. It would be > great if it didn't for the final release, it would upset a few people. > > I filed a bug here under wallpapers, but moved it to distro since it's a > p

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 13:35 -0500, Richard Michael wrote: > Aside, I'm wondering if F20 should have already created a bridge for > libvirt (e.g., should I need to create it myself?). I selected the > 'Virtualization' group. Perhaps this is related to Chris' down-thread > comment that not all req

Blockerbugs 0.4 Released and Deployed

2013-11-19 Thread Tim Flink
After a bit more of a delay than we were anticipating, blockerbugs 0.4 has been released and deployed to production! https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ New features and enhancements: - Spin requests * add updates and/or koji builds to the request - API Support * get latest blocke

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Cole Robinson
On 11/18/2013 07:13 PM, Richard Michael wrote: > Hello, > > I've just installed F20 beta x64 and applied all updates. > > I'm attempting to create a bridge network interface in virt-manager > (0.10.0). I complete the "Configure network interface" dialog, and > when I click "Finish" I receive an

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Cole Robinson
On 11/19/2013 12:26 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > A possible related problem is that 'yum groupinstall Virtualization' doesn't > install everything that's needed. I had to manually install some qemu and > libvirt packages including libvirt-daemon-driver-network before things were > working correctly

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 19, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 10:26 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: >> A possible related problem is that 'yum groupinstall Virtualization' >> doesn't install everything that's needed. I had to manually install >> some qemu and libvirt packages including

386 issues

2013-11-19 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
I decided to try installing 386 Beta TC1 on one of my machines that normally runs Win7 or 64 bit Linux. The 386 netinst failed to get to Anaconda from two USB drives and a CD. I checked the sha256 sums of the file and compared each media with the downloaded file. I then downloaded the 386 tree

Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread James Patterson
Sorry, wrong list. I was looking for the test release list. Apologies. -- James Patterson jamespatter...@operamail.com On Tue, Nov 19, 2013, at 11:25 AM, James Patterson wrote: > Hello, > > I noticed the new Fedora 20 wallpaper looks like a swastika. It would be > great if it didn't for the

Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-19 Thread James Patterson
Hello, I noticed the new Fedora 20 wallpaper looks like a swastika. It would be great if it didn't for the final release, it would upset a few people. I filed a bug here under wallpapers, but moved it to distro since it's a policy decision: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1030643 --

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 10:26 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > A possible related problem is that 'yum groupinstall Virtualization' > doesn't install everything that's needed. I had to manually install > some qemu and libvirt packages including libvirt-daemon-driver-network > before things were working c

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Richard Michael
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > A possible related problem is that 'yum groupinstall Virtualization' doesn't > install everything that's needed. I had to manually install some qemu and > libvirt packages including libvirt-daemon-driver-network before things were > workin

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Richard Michael
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 19.11.2013 04:52, Richard Michael wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz >> mailto:mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl>> wrote: >> >> On 19.11.2013 01:13, Richard Michael wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Richard Michael
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 22:52 -0500, Richard Michael wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz >> wrote: >> On 19.11.2013 01:13, Richard Michael wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > I'v

Re: Blocker Tracking App Downtime at 16:00 UTC

2013-11-19 Thread Tim Flink
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:25:25 -0700 Tim Flink wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:35:07 -0700 > Tim Flink wrote: > > > Apologies for the late notice but we are going to be upgrading the > > blocker tracking app in production today. > > > > We're planning to start the upgrade at 16:00 UTC and in the

Re: [Fedora QA] #434: Requesting Moderator Status for test-announce list

2013-11-19 Thread Fedora QA
#434: Requesting Moderator Status for test-announce list --+- Reporter: roshi| Owner: Type: enhancement | Status: closed Priority: minor| Milestone: Undetermined Future Component: permissions |V

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Murphy
A possible related problem is that 'yum groupinstall Virtualization' doesn't install everything that's needed. I had to manually install some qemu and libvirt packages including libvirt-daemon-driver-network before things were working correctly including bridged network interface. Chris Murphy

[Fedora QA] #434: Requesting Moderator Status for test-announce list

2013-11-19 Thread Fedora QA
#434: Requesting Moderator Status for test-announce list -+-- Reporter: roshi| Owner: Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: minor| Milestone: Undetermined Future Component: permissions | Vers

[Test-Announce] 2013-11-20 @ **17:00 UTC** - F20 Final Blocker Bug Review #2

2013-11-19 Thread Mike Ruckman
# F20 Final Blocker Review meeting #2 # Date: 2013-11-20 # Time: 17:00 UTC (12:00 EST, 09:00 PST) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net It's that time again! Tomorrow (2013-11-20) we'll be having another Blocker Review Meeting for Fedora 20. We currently have 6 proposed blockers a

Re: Blocker Tracking App Downtime at 16:00 UTC

2013-11-19 Thread Tim Flink
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:35:07 -0700 Tim Flink wrote: > Apologies for the late notice but we are going to be upgrading the > blocker tracking app in production today. > > We're planning to start the upgrade at 16:00 UTC and in the worst > case, will be down for an hour but I expect the total downt

Blocker Tracking App Downtime at 16:00 UTC

2013-11-19 Thread Tim Flink
Apologies for the late notice but we are going to be upgrading the blocker tracking app in production today. We're planning to start the upgrade at 16:00 UTC and in the worst case, will be down for an hour but I expect the total downtime to be more like 15 minutes. I'll send out another email whe

F-20 Branched report: 20131119 changes

2013-11-19 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Nov 19 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for armhfp -- [avro] avro-mapred-1.7.5-1.fc20.noarch requires hadoop-mapreduce avro-mapred-1.7.5-1.fc20.noarch requires hadoop-client [blueman] blueman-1.23-7

Re: F20 beta virt-manager cannot create bridged network interface

2013-11-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 19.11.2013 04:52, Richard Michael wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz > mailto:mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl>> wrote: > > On 19.11.2013 01:13, Richard Michael wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've just installed F20 beta x64 and applied all updates. >