On Sun, 2013-12-15 at 17:47 +1300, Gavin Flower wrote:
> I don't know...
>
> Possibly charge a lot of money, give out fancy certificates, and ensure
> they have status and no real responsibilities!
oh, I like it.
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On 15/12/13 17:41, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 22:27 -0500, Richard Ryniker wrote:
Has Fedora QA discussed how much effort they should or can invest in
organization and facilitation of others' test activities? Direct
testing scales (approximately) linearly with number of peopl
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 22:27 -0500, Richard Ryniker wrote:
> Has Fedora QA discussed how much effort they should or can invest in
> organization and facilitation of others' test activities? Direct
> testing scales (approximately) linearly with number of people, but
> education, organization, and l
On 12/14/2013 06:20 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Also, from re-reading the info in this thread, in addition to the
xfce4-terminal bug, it sounds like perhaps recently all gnome based
stuff isn't saving at all?
(liferea, gnome-terminal, etc)
I wonder if something changed recently in gtk3 session savin
The following Fedora 20 Security updates need testing:
Age URL
58
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-19198/quassel-0.9.1-1.fc20
50
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-19934/openstack-glance-2013.2-2.fc20
45
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDOR
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing:
Age URL
239
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6117/eucalyptus-3.2.2-1.fc18
85
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17195/spice-gtk-0.18-3.fc18
79
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, at 11:25:40 -0800 Adam Williamson
wrote:
One thing they've floated as an idea is to have a separate 'installation
environment' you could boot into from the live images - so you could
either boot into 'try it out' live mode, or 'install it' installer mode,
but not
On Dec 14, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
> Concerning Fedora's inability to boot from UEFI and install to
> a fdisk configured disk: A relevant error message would have
> been most useful.
Like I said, I suggest you file an RFE against Rawhid for this message: DEBUG
anaconda
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 16:40 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
> On 12/14/2013 03:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> It does not. So it sounds like Chuck's trying to do a UEFI install to an
> >> msdos-labelled disk, and that's the problem.
> >
On 12/14/2013 03:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
It does not. So it sounds like Chuck's trying to do a UEFI install to an
msdos-labelled disk, and that's the problem.
I think this could use an RFE on the error message to be more clear what the
p
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 14:26 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 22:35 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > On 12/08/2013 08:37 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
> > > Curious, why it blew up right now, just before F20 is released. It
> > > should have happened in alpha and not now.
On 12/14/2013 12:38 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
Indeed! There are environments/situations where there is no network
connectivity (at least to the Internet) and never will be. It is this type
of situations that will require a DVD.
I r
On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> It does not. So it sounds like Chuck's trying to do a UEFI install to an
> msdos-labelled disk, and that's the problem.
I think this could use an RFE on the error message to be more clear what the
problem is.
> Chuck, you can't do a UEFI
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 14:26 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I managed to identify the specific change to yum which made these
> messages appear, and I think I know the attributes of the groups for
> which it appears: non-environment groups that are listed as installed
> in /var/lib/yum/groups/inst
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 15:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Dec 14, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
>
> >
> > On 12/14/2013 12:57 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 12:48 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
> >>> On 12/14/2013 09:12 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 22:35 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 12/08/2013 08:37 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
> > Curious, why it blew up right now, just before F20 is released. It
> > should have happened in alpha and not now.
> >
> > Workaround is to yum group mark remove for every group
>
On Dec 14, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
>
> On 12/14/2013 12:57 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 12:48 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
>>> On 12/14/2013 09:12 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 04:46 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
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Matthew Miller escribió:
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 02:50:50AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > > > > Hey Dennis, will the images going to mirrors be these or the
> > > > > ones with the extra RC1.1 dot, like
> > > >
On 12/14/2013 04:08 PM, Dan Mossor wrote:
Although, as I'm writing this, I realized that when you said "restored",
I'm not quite sure if you mean restored upon login, or restored upon
restarting the application.
Sorry if it was not clear earlier - I meant restored upon login -
**not** r
On 12/14/2013 01:15 PM, nonamedotc wrote:
> On 12/14/2013 11:20 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> Also, from re-reading the info in this thread, in addition to the
>> xfce4-terminal bug, it sounds like perhaps recently all gnome based
>> stuff isn't saving at all?
>>
>> (liferea, gnome-terminal, etc)
>>
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:32:12 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 18:28 +, Beartooth wrote:
[]
>> Yes, thanks again. After your post and Ed Greshko's, I did the
>> first machine in question using his "fedup --net 20"; it worked fine.
>>
>> In a senior m
On 12/14/2013 12:57 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 12:48 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
On 12/14/2013 09:12 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 04:46 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
While in RC1.1 anaconda booted with UEFI I was able
to ftp the files in
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 12:48 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
> On 12/14/2013 09:12 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 04:46 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
> >> While in RC1.1 anaconda booted with UEFI I was able
> >> to ftp the files in /tmp to my server. I then rebooted
On 12/14/2013 11:15 AM, nonamedotc wrote:
On 12/14/2013 11:20 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Also, from re-reading the info in this thread, in addition to the
xfce4-terminal bug, it sounds like perhaps recently all gnome based
stuff isn't saving at all?
(liferea, gnome-terminal, etc)
I wonder if some
On 12/14/2013 09:12 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 04:46 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
While in RC1.1 anaconda booted with UEFI I was able
to ftp the files in /tmp to my server. I then rebooted
my office machine to RC1.1 that had been installed
without UEFI. I tried fp
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> Indeed! There are environments/situations where there is no network
> connectivity (at least to the Internet) and never will be. It is this type
> of situations that will require a DVD.
I run Fedora on a system that exists in on the side
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 13:47 -0500, Richard Ryniker wrote:
> The defining characteristic of the Live images is that they run
> without installation on a user's disks. Beyond that, they have the
> capability to install a minimal Fedora system to a local disk. Once
> the size limit for a live image
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 02:50:50AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > > > Hey Dennis, will the images going to mirrors be these or the ones
> > > > with the extra RC1.1 dot, like
> > > > "Fedora-x86_64-20-20131211.1-sda.qcow2"?
> > > The Images in RC1 and RC1.1 are exactly the same. the changes in th
On 12/14/2013 11:20 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Also, from re-reading the info in this thread, in addition to the
xfce4-terminal bug, it sounds like perhaps recently all gnome based
stuff isn't saving at all?
(liferea, gnome-terminal, etc)
I wonder if something changed recently in gtk3 session savin
The defining characteristic of the Live images is that they run
without installation on a user's disks. Beyond that, they have the
capability to install a minimal Fedora system to a local disk. Once
the size limit for a live image is increased beyond the capacity of a
CD (or other common media),
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 18:28 +, Beartooth wrote:
> > The only 'officially recommended' upgrade method from F18 onwards is
> > fedup. The installer's upgrade mode does not exist any more. fedup is
> > essentially just a fairly thin wrapper around a 'yum update' which is
> > performed in a specia
On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 02:42:16 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 19:44 +, Beartooth wrote:
>> I have several machines running F18, which I would like to change
>> to F20 by some sort of upgrade, rather than a fresh install. Can anyone
>> yet guess whether upgrading from
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 10:56 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Dec 14, 2013, at 12:48 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 00:06 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >>>
> >> In my opinion, every one of those tests requires a feature owner. If
> >> no one volunteers, if a hand off isn't m
On Dec 14, 2013, at 12:48 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 00:06 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>>
>> In my opinion, every one of those tests requires a feature owner. If
>> no one volunteers, if a hand off isn't made, the functionality for the
>> feature represented by the sanit
Also, from re-reading the info in this thread, in addition to the
xfce4-terminal bug, it sounds like perhaps recently all gnome based
stuff isn't saving at all?
(liferea, gnome-terminal, etc)
I wonder if something changed recently in gtk3 session saving... will
try and look into it.
kevin
sig
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 18:12:41 +0100
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 12/14/2013 06:14 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > On 12/13/2013 05:48 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >> On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 17:04:01 +0100
> >> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>
>
> > When re-loggin in,
> > - sometimes, *all* "saved apps" appear on vi
On 12/14/2013 06:14 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/13/2013 05:48 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 17:04:01 +0100
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
When re-loggin in,
- sometimes, *all* "saved apps" appear on virtual "workspace 1",
plastered on top of each other.
Some more details after som
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 04:46 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
> While in RC1.1 anaconda booted with UEFI I was able
> to ftp the files in /tmp to my server. I then rebooted
> my office machine to RC1.1 that had been installed
> without UEFI. I tried fpaste again on these files and
> fpaste fail
On 12/13/2013 08:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey folks - just a quick note, I've created the F21 and F22 blocker/FE
> tracker bugs and updated
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Trackers . The
> F21 tracker bugs have the 'non-versioned' aliases (AlphaBlocker,
> BetaBlock
2013/12/13 Adam Williamson
> Hi, folks. I wanted to draw the attention of anyone who used Fedora 20
> pre-release (Alpha, Beta, or TC/RC for Alpha, Beta or Final) to this
> issue:
>
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#.2Froot_permissions_incorrect_on_pre-release_installations
>
> B
Hi,
my system has a built in ethernet interface wich is working perfectly
fine on IPV4 and IPV6.
I added a second interface via usb for wiresharking some stuff (this way
I don't get my own traffic in the packet dumps).
I don't want or need an IP-stack on this second interface.
In network m
While in RC1.1 anaconda booted with UEFI I was able
to ftp the files in /tmp to my server. I then rebooted
my office machine to RC1.1 that had been installed
without UEFI. I tried fpaste again on these files and
fpaste failed again:
-r--r--r-- 1 caf omen 149K Dec 14 04:32 syslog
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On lau 14.des 2013 00:54, Adam Williamson wrote:
That requires will on the part of the desktop SIGs, though. QA is not
going to be responsible for this. My position is either the desktop SIGs
fix their stuff, or we will have to change the criteria as I proposed,
because what other choice do we h
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El Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:13:01 -0500
Matthew Miller escribió:
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:05:05PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > > > Note, these are the GA images.
> > > Hey Dennis, will the images going to mirrors be these or the ones
> > > with the
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