Re: Draft 'test outline' for Server product (what will be the broad scope of Server testing?)

2014-04-25 Thread Mike Ruckman
On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 00:10:22 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 04/25/2014 10:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 22:35 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> On 04/25/2014 09:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> we at least need to get the requisite new test > >>

on shutdown, session-1.scope stopping timed out

2014-04-25 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, Recently on Fedora 20 , the shutdown stuck one minute and ends up with close session-1.scope stopping timed out , any clue what might be , I reverse kernel , NwtworkManager updates but still the same I use kde workspace . also I see that behavior on a vm with rawhide TIA, -- Sérgio M. B.

Re: Draft 'test outline' for Server product (what will be the broad scope of Server testing?)

2014-04-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 04/25/2014 10:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 22:35 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 04/25/2014 09:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: we at least need to get the requisite new test cases and matrix templates (or whatever) drawn up, and decide on whose responsibility a

Re: fedup failure from F19->F20

2014-04-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/25/2014 02:54 PM, Adam Williamson issued this missive: On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:49 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 04/25/2014 11:42 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Yup, I have yum-plugin-local installed. I'll kill it off and remove the /var/lib/yum/plugins/local RPMs. Now, assuming I clean all that

Re: Draft 'test outline' for Server product (what will be the broad scope of Server testing?)

2014-04-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 22:35 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 04/25/2014 09:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > we at least need to get the requisite new test > > cases and matrix templates (or whatever) drawn up, and decide on whose > > responsibility all the testing we ultimately decide to

Re: Draft 'test outline' for Server product (what will be the broad scope of Server testing?)

2014-04-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 04/25/2014 09:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: we at least need to get the requisite new test cases and matrix templates (or whatever) drawn up, and decide on whose responsibility all the testing we ultimately decide to do will be. Just keep those test matrix and test cases along with their ow

Re: fedup failure from F19->F20

2014-04-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:49 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 04/25/2014 11:42 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > > Yup, I have yum-plugin-local installed. I'll kill it off and remove the > > /var/lib/yum/plugins/local RPMs. > > > > Now, assuming I clean all that cruft up (getting rid of the plugin-local > > s

Re: Draft 'test outline' for Server product (what will be the broad scope of Server testing?)

2014-04-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 12:50 -0600, Mike Ruckman wrote: > I was the one who volunteered to handle the cloud Test Plan - initial > draft is located here [0]. I like the overall logic of the test outline > (though I worked off of the older Test Plans for my draft) - I'll start > working on a Test Out

Re: Nasty Habits in Replying to Emails

2014-04-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:10 -0400, Mickey wrote: > Gentleman!!! when replying to a email LEAVE the contents of the orignal > poster intact so the next person that reads the email can read what the > poster had to say. > > PLEASE In addition to what other people have said, there are people

Re: Nasty Habits in Replying to Emails

2014-04-25 Thread Mickey
On 04/25/2014 03:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I suggest you read and take note of the Guidelines document at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines poc On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Mickey wrote: Gentleman!!! when replying to a email LEAVE the contents of the orignal

Re: Nasty Habits in Replying to Emails

2014-04-25 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014, Scott Robbins wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Mickey wrote: > > > Gentleman!!! when replying to a email LEAVE the contents of the orignal > > > poster intact so the next person that reads the email can read what the > > > poster had to say. > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2

Re: Nasty Habits in Replying to Emails

2014-04-25 Thread Scott Robbins
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Mickey wrote: > > Gentleman!!! when replying to a email LEAVE the contents of the orignal > > poster intact so the next person that reads the email can read what the > > poster had to say. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 08:39:00PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I

Re: Nasty Habits in Replying to Emails

2014-04-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I suggest you read and take note of the Guidelines document at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines poc On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Mickey wrote: > Gentleman!!! when replying to a email LEAVE the contents of the orignal > poster intact so the next person that reads the ema

Re: Draft 'test outline' for Server product (what will be the broad scope of Server testing?)

2014-04-25 Thread Mike Ruckman
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:16:45 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, folks. So at last week's QA and Server meetings, I assigned myself > to come up with what I then referred to as a 'test plan' for the > Server product (and a couple of other folks to do it for Workstation > and Cloud). > > I've writ

Re: fedup failure from F19->F20

2014-04-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/25/2014 11:42 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Yup, I have yum-plugin-local installed. I'll kill it off and remove the /var/lib/yum/plugins/local RPMs. Now, assuming I clean all that cruft up (getting rid of the plugin-local stuff, getting rid of the RPMs), how do I proceed with the upgrade? It see

Re: fedup failure from F19->F20

2014-04-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/25/2014 10:59 AM, Samuel Sieb issued this missive: On 04/25/2014 10:44 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: I did a "yum clean" which completed with no errors. There is no /var/tmp/system-upgrade directory that I can find (a lot of old systemd stuff though, so I purged that). /var/tmp/fedora-upgrade

Re: fedup failure from F19->F20

2014-04-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/25/2014 10:44 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: I did a "yum clean" which completed with no errors. There is no /var/tmp/system-upgrade directory that I can find (a lot of old systemd stuff though, so I purged that). /var/tmp/fedora-upgrade maybe? Are you sure you have the latest fedup? Maybe rel

Re: fedup failure from F19->F20

2014-04-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/25/2014 10:25 AM, Samuel Sieb issued this missive: On 04/25/2014 10:12 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: I'm afraid this machine is now in a very sick state and I'm petrified that, should I lose power or something else happens that will cause it to reboot, it's going to be dead. If all you've done

Re: fedup failure from F19->F20

2014-04-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/25/2014 10:12 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: I'm afraid this machine is now in a very sick state and I'm petrified that, should I lose power or something else happens that will cause it to reboot, it's going to be dead. If all you've done is run fedup, then nothing has happened to the installed

fedup failure from F19->F20

2014-04-25 Thread Rick Stevens
Hi, gang. I ran into a nasty trying to upgrade one of my machines from F19 to F20. Two other machines upgraded without issues, but this one is rather nasty. I did an initial "fedup --network 20" on the F19 box and ran into the famous google-chrome repo issue, so I reran it with a "--disablerepo=

Re: Nasty Habits in Replying to Emails

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:10:17AM -0400, Mickey wrote: > Gentleman!!! when replying to a email LEAVE the contents of the > orignal poster intact Yeah! In addition top-post your comments thus producing with an exponential rate in a few replies a big pile of unreadable junk. On the top of it g

Re: Nasty Habits in Replying to Emails

2014-04-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:10:17 -0400 Mickey wrote: > Gentleman!!! when replying to a email LEAVE the contents of the > orignal poster intact so the next person that reads the email can > read what the poster had to say. > > PLEASE You can do that by reading the original email. The list is ar

Re: Nasty Habits in Replying to Emails

2014-04-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 04/25/2014 03:52 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:10:17 -0400, Mickey wrote: Gentleman!!! when replying to a email LEAVE the contents of the orignal poster intact so the next person that reads the email can read what the poster had to say. That is not the process f

Re: Nasty Habits in Replying to Emails

2014-04-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:10:17 -0400, Mickey wrote: Gentleman!!! when replying to a email LEAVE the contents of the orignal poster intact so the next person that reads the email can read what the poster had to say. That is not the process for these lists. You are only supposed to keep en

Nasty Habits in Replying to Emails

2014-04-25 Thread Mickey
Gentleman!!! when replying to a email LEAVE the contents of the orignal poster intact so the next person that reads the email can read what the poster had to say. PLEASE -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test