F-23 Branched report: 20150807 changes

2015-08-07 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Aug 7 07:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for armhfp -- [apache-scout] apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:uddi-ws) apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:

Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Stephen Gallagher
As promised at yesterday's Go/No-Go meeting, I'm starting a discussion on the Alpha criterion that states: "The default desktop background must be different from that of the two previous stable releases." As I understand it, the intent is essentially that no one booting a Fedora pre-release should

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Richard Ryniker
"Auto Freeze Exeception" seems too complicated an answer to this question. Either continue to call new background a blocker, or decide it is desirable but not a blocking issue. If lovely new art is not available, some generic "Fnn" background could be used then replaced by an update after release

Fedora 21 updates-testing report

2015-08-07 Thread updates
The following Fedora 21 Security updates need testing: Age URL 188 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-1467/openstack-glance-2014.1.3-4.fc21 78 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-8168/cabal-install-1.16.1.0-1.fc21,haskell-platform-2013.2.0.0-39.fc21 68

Fedora 22 updates-testing report

2015-08-07 Thread updates
The following Fedora 22 Security updates need testing: Age URL 119 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-5878/echoping-6.1-0.beta.r434svn.1.fc22 68 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-9110/fossil-1.33-1.fc22 68 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDOR

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Sandra McCann
There are pros and cons to a generic background to pass the blocker status. The benefit of course is that it fulfills the need to be a different background and thus detectable as not the latest/stable etc. The cons is that quality of that generic background image may be less than it currently is,

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:30:44 -0400 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > As promised at yesterday's Go/No-Go meeting, I'm starting a discussion > on the Alpha criterion that states: "The default desktop background > must be different from that of the two previous stable releases." > > As I understand it, t

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 09:06:26AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:30:44 -0400 > Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > As promised at yesterday's Go/No-Go meeting, I'm starting a discussion > > on the Alpha criterion that states: "The default desktop background > > must be different f

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 09:15 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote: > "Auto Freeze Exeception" seems too complicated an answer to this > question. > > Either continue to call new background a blocker, or decide it is > desirable but not a blocking issue. > That's fair. I was trying to offer an alternative

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 08:30:44AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > It's very likely to get into "last blocker" discussions (as it did > yesterday). (By "last blocker" I mean those cases where the Go/No-Go > would tend to waive it as a blocker if it was the only one holding up a > release). To me,

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 09:06:26AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I don't even think the desktop background is all that visible anymore, > especially on some desktops (like workstation/gnome). People there tend > to use full screen apps and never even see the wallpaper. FWIW, I use GNOME without full

Re: Again? The password

2015-08-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 00:56:29 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:51:29 -0700 > > Samuel Sieb wrote: > > >> On 07/29/2015 02:10 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > >> How could I customize the password settings for installing from th

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 09:15 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote: > "Auto Freeze Exeception" seems too complicated an answer to this > question. > > Either continue to call new background a blocker, or decide it is > desirable but not a blocking issue. > > If lovely new art is not available, some generic

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 11:57 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > I think it would make sense for the Design team to be aware of this > proposal too. I think the criterion has been used as a forcing > function in the past, so if it's not going to trigger a notification > they expect, we don't want desi

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 10:03:34 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > This is exactly what I *don't* want to happen, and what rather annoys > me about this whole business. > > The blocker process is not a tool for the rest of the project to use > as a reminder system. It doesn't work very well for that. T

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 09:59 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 09:15 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote: > > "Auto Freeze Exeception" seems too complicated an answer to this > > question. > > > > Either continue to call new background a blocker, or decide it is > > desirable but not a

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 10:03:34AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > The blocker process is not a tool for the rest of the project to use as > a reminder system. It doesn't work very well for that. The expectation [...] > * QA tests Thing and finds no-one ever even started working on it > * QA files

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 10:22:56AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > What I *can't* find is any reference for the justification usually > cited for the criterion. Several times we mention that there was an > actual case where people downloaded an Alpha or Beta then got confused > because the backgrou

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 13:42 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 10:22:56AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > What I *can't* find is any reference for the justification usually > > cited for the criterion. Several times we mention that there was an > > actual case where people dow

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 10:03:34 -0700 > Adam Williamson wrote: > >> This is exactly what I *don't* want to happen, and what rather annoys >> me about this whole business. >> >> The blocker process is not a tool for the rest of the project to use

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 02:03:31PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Here's a thought: maybe the Fedora background logo GNOME Shell plugin > > could detect if running on an Alpha/Beta release (or on Rawhide) and > > change appropriately? > Which is fine and dandy on a GNOME/Workstation system, bu

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 13:42 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 10:22:56AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > What I *can't* find is any reference for the justification usually > > cited for the criterion. Several times we mention that there was an > > actual case where people dow

[Test-Announce] Fedora 23 Alpha status is GO, release on August 11, 2015

2015-08-07 Thread Jan Kurik
At the Fedora 23 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting #2 that just occurred, it was agreed to Go with the Fedora 23 Alpha by Fedora QA, Release Engineering and Development. Fedora 23 Alpha will be publicly available on Tuesday, August 11, 2015. Meeting details can be seen here: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedorap

[Test-Announce] 2015-08-10 @ 1600 UTC ** PROPOSAL TO CANCEL Fedora 23 Blocker Review

2015-08-07 Thread Mike Ruckman
With the recent decision to ship Alpha, Flock being next week and people traveling, I propose that we cancel the next Blocker Review meeting. Currently there are 2/4 proposals for Beta/Final - so if someone wants to run the meeting, go for it. Otherwise, enjoy your blocker review free time :) --

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 11:59:51AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Here's a thought: maybe the Fedora background logo GNOME Shell plugin > > could detect if running on an Alpha/Beta release (or on Rawhide) and > > change appropriately? > That's certainly what I thought would help with the whole b

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Gavin Flower
On 08/08/15 05:42, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 10:22:56AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: What I *can't* find is any reference for the justification usually cited for the criterion. Several times we mention that there was an actual case where people downloaded an Alpha or Beta th

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Gavin Flower
On 08/08/15 03:06, Kevin Fenzi wrote: [...] I don't even think the desktop background is all that visible anymore, especially on some desktops (like workstation/gnome). People there tend to use full screen apps and never even see the wallpaper. That also seems like a pretty poor way to tell wha

ARM release-blocking desktop changed to Xfce

2015-08-07 Thread Adam Williamson
In accordance with discussion at today's Go/No-Go meeting, I've changed the release-blocking desktop for ARM from KDE to Xfce in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Release_criteria_preamble (whic h is included in each of the Release Criteria pages). For those not at the meeting and who don't

Fedora 22 Update Testing

2015-08-07 Thread Jonathan Calloway
Greetings! I am having a difficult time configuring the testing repositories in Fedora 22. Would someone be willing to outline the proper way to do this? Thanks! Jonathan Calloway -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Fedora 22 Update Testing

2015-08-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 17:45 -0400, Jonathan Calloway wrote: > Greetings! > > I am having a difficult time configuring the testing repositories in > Fedora 22. Would someone be willing to outline the proper way to do > this? dnf config-manger --enablerepo updates-testing should do it, I think.

Re: Fedora 22 Update Testing

2015-08-07 Thread Jonathan Calloway
That’s what I *thought* I was doing, but I kept getting sync errors. In any case, thanks!! > On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 17:45 -0400, Jonathan Calloway wrote: >> Greetings! >> >> I am having a difficult time configuring the testing repos

Re: Fedora 22 Update Testing

2015-08-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/08/15 05:46, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 17:45 -0400, Jonathan Calloway wrote: >> Greetings! >> >> I am having a difficult time configuring the testing repositories in >> Fedora 22. Would someone be willing to outline the proper way to do >> this? > dnf config-manger --e

Custom partitioning test cases renamed, LVM thinp test added

2015-08-07 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, folks. Just thought I'd note that I changed the names of the custom partitioning test cases a bit to be more consistent - they're now all called something like Testcase:Partitioning_custom_(foo) , matching the Testcase:Partitioning_guided_(foo) for guided partitioning tests. I made the (foo) p

Re: Fedora 22 Update Testing

2015-08-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2015-08-08 at 05:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/08/15 05:46, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 17:45 -0400, Jonathan Calloway wrote: > > > Greetings! > > > > > > I am having a difficult time configuring the testing repositories > > > in > > > Fedora 22. Would someone

Re: Fedora 22 Update Testing

2015-08-07 Thread Jonathan Calloway
This seems to have worked. I’m not getting the caching errors anyway! > On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Sat, 2015-08-08 at 05:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 08/08/15 05:46, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 17:45 -0400, Jonathan Calloway wrote

Re: Fedora 22 Update Testing

2015-08-07 Thread Jonathan Calloway
Adam, Could you, or whoever is responsible, update the main Fedora QA updates page with this info? It’s showing F22 Atomic. I was thinking when i was referencing it that the information listed there was dated, so please correct me if I’m wrong! Thanks! > On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Adam

Fedora 21 updates-testing report

2015-08-07 Thread updates
The following Fedora 21 Security updates need testing: Age URL 189 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-1467/openstack-glance-2014.1.3-4.fc21 79 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-8168/cabal-install-1.16.1.0-1.fc21,haskell-platform-2013.2.0.0-39.fc21 69

Fedora 22 updates-testing report

2015-08-07 Thread updates
The following Fedora 22 Security updates need testing: Age URL 120 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-5878/echoping-6.1-0.beta.r434svn.1.fc22 69 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-9110/fossil-1.33-1.fc22 69 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDOR