Fedora Rawhide 20151125 compose check report

2015-11-25 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud disk raw i386 Cloud disk raw x86_64 Cloud_atomic disk raw x86_64 Workstation live i386 Workstation live x86_64 No images in this compose but not Rawhide 20151124 No images in Rawhide 20151124 but not this. Failed openQA tests: 28 of 49 ID: 9021Test:

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 09:46 -0500, Richard Ryniker wrote: > System-upgrade across two releases raises an interesting End-of-Life > policy issue.  If system-upgrade from N-2 to N is so important it will > block release of N until it works, how do we explain why it is no > longer important after

Re: testcase proposal: joining bios+uefi in system upgrade section

2015-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 06:33 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: > As a middle ground, what about having: >    .---. >    |  BIOS UEFI| >    |Testcase_upgrade_dnf_previous_any  | >    

Fedora 23 updates-testing report

2015-11-25 Thread updates
The following Fedora 23 Security updates need testing: Age URL 113 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-12739 python-kdcproxy-0.3.2-1.fc23 95 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-5eb2131441 conntrack-tools-1.4.2-9.fc23 66

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 13:36 -0500, Richard Ryniker wrote: > My reading of the EOL policy says "If it isn't fixed before EOL, it is > unlikely to be fixed."  If I encounter a problem with release-skipping > system-upgrade, too bad.  There is probably no time to fix it before EOL. That's not really

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 16:51 -0500, Richard Ryniker wrote: > > A month is a pretty long time in Fedora development > > True, but a month is only available if the problem is reported on day 1. > If it takes a week or two for a user to report a problem, that interval > lessens the remaining time to

Re: Non-image blocker process change proposal

2015-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2015-11-20 at 16:18 +0530, Sudhir D wrote: > > > I don't think it's appropriate to turn FEs into blockers automatically, > > in fact there are obvious cases where it certainly wouldn't be > > appropriate: bugs in non-blocking desktops are typically taken as FEs, > > for instance, as are

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-25 Thread Richard Ryniker
>A month is a pretty long time in Fedora development True, but a month is only available if the problem is reported on day 1. If it takes a week or two for a user to report a problem, that interval lessens the remaining time to EOL. On the other hand, there is no prohibition against a fix after

Re: Non-image blocker process change proposal

2015-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 16:36 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > #2 MOAR METADATA > > > The alternative is to make the existing Blocker trackers do more work. > In this model we wouldn't add any new tracker bugs; we'd just add new > 'magic words' in the Whiteboard field. Right now,

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-25 Thread Richard Ryniker
>It's not like dnf-system-upgrade would magically stop working when N-2 >reaches EOL, so honestly, overall, I just don't really see the problem >you're describing Like most of Fedora, dnf-system-upgrade gets limited testing before release. When N is released, a large number of users who did not

rawhide report: 20151125 changes

2015-11-25 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Nov 25 05:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for i386 -- [IQmol] IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_serialization.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_iostreams.so.1.58.0

Introduction

2015-11-25 Thread Tiago Moreira Vieira
Hello everyone, I'm Tiago. I've been using Fedora for many many years and I'm a Fedora Ambassador in the UK. As an Ambassador I haven't been very active due to personal reasons, but I now want to get traction again and be as active as I can. I have more than 14 years of professional experience

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-25 Thread Richard Ryniker
System-upgrade across two releases raises an interesting End-of-Life policy issue. If system-upgrade from N-2 to N is so important it will block release of N until it works, how do we explain why it is no longer important after four weeks when N-2 reaches End of Life? Four weeks is little time