Re: 18 Alpha TC3 DVD defaulting to networked install

2012-08-17 Thread Chris Lumens
I looked under Installation Source and there is a box Don't install the latest available software updates. Install the default versions provided by the install source above. which is unchecked by default. I checked the box, but still get the same errors, so it's not working. That box

Re: Fedora 18 Alpha TC3 disk partitioning

2012-08-17 Thread Chris Lumens
I am experiencing a few issues with the disk partitioning using anaconda on F18 Alpha TC3. This is what I am seeing, Custom partitioning is still under construction. * Once a partition is created, I am unable to change the partition size. I am having to delete the partition and recreate it.

Re: First experience with F18-ALPHA-TC1

2012-08-13 Thread Chris Lumens
1) Installation end up with a screen - http://ompldr.org/vZjNhdw/QEMU_001.png Okay, this is hiding the real error message. I've got a fix for it committed and I'll be doing another build for f18-branch later today. 2) # anaconda Traceback (most recent call last): File /sbin/anaconda,

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-08-02 Thread Chris Lumens
Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to remove this beta criterion [2]: 'The rescue mode of the installer must be able to detect and mount (read-write and read-only) LVM, encrypted, and RAID (BIOS, hardware, and software

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-08-01 Thread Chris Lumens
I wouldn't be hugely worried about waiving rescue mode for Alpha, but as others have said, it's more problematic if it's not going to come back for Beta or at least Final. Has Chris said anything about that? My focus has been on getting a graphical UI ready to meet the alpha criteria, plus

Re: [criteria update] Anaconda and network-attached storage devices

2012-08-01 Thread Chris Lumens
I understand anaconda is undergoing a significant and needed rewrite, but is it wise to ship a release with a whole lot of installer functionality removed? Maybe F18 should wait until anaconda is ready. What we're talking about for storage here is: (1) The filtering UI isn't going to be

Re: Anaconda new UI testing: new snapshot available

2012-07-17 Thread Chris Lumens
Doesn't pickup the inst.repo from the command line I just tested this and it worked. Got more data to share? using f17: doesn't ask/set root password And it won't. We're going to set the first created user up as the admin, so that's how that will happen. doesn't correctly

Re: Installing Rawhide?

2012-07-17 Thread Chris Lumens
In every instance, the fascist new Anaconda installs without reporting errors. What are you even talking about? - Chris -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Installing Rawhide?

2012-07-17 Thread Chris Lumens
Probably talking about the new Anaconda-UI? But it's not in rawhide yet. - Chris -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Anaconda new UI testing: new snapshot available

2012-07-17 Thread Chris Lumens
Not kidding, but neither does avoid equal refuse. Plus, all modern standards-compliant browsers read the CSS the same, so it isn't my browser that decides it should make text smaller than my personalized personal computer preference, or low contrast. It's just following so-called suggestions

Re: will F18 allow simultaneous installation of more than one desktop?

2012-07-10 Thread Chris Lumens
Well, there's an obvious counterpoint there...*only* half of all people pick live images to use for installations, despite the fact they're a smaller and more convenient format. Did you consider the possible reasons why half of all people continue to choose to download the DVD (even though

Re: will F18 allow simultaneous installation of more than one desktop?

2012-07-10 Thread Chris Lumens
(3) The time for making major design decisions was the first half of 2011, when we started talking about this. And now is too soon to put it on F19's table? We're not going to redesign the new UI again around the concept of advanced vs. normal users. There may be certain places where we can

Re: will F18 allow simultaneous installation of more than one desktop?

2012-07-09 Thread Chris Lumens
Idea: the installer branches just from the beginning: -Easy install (only installs Gnome) -Advanced install (shows a big warning screen about installng multiple DEs, could be confusing, not recommended for newcomers, your pet could die, etc etc ). bingo, both sides pleased. See? It

Re: will F18 allow simultaneous installation of more than one desktop?

2012-07-09 Thread Chris Lumens
I think it's much simpler: Just revert the DE radio buttons to the original checkboxes, so people can choose more than one, and if someone does that, pop up a warning. We are trying to keep the number of spurious dialogs and confirmations to a minimum, as we've gotten many complaints over

Re: Criterion proposal - keyboard layouts

2012-02-20 Thread Chris Lumens
Is this due to Anaconda's constant rewrite every release cycle that this happens? anaconda does not do a constant rewrite every release cycle. - Chris -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Anaconda should be rewritten in a compiled language!

2012-02-20 Thread Chris Lumens
No packages need to be installed, everything is right there in the install environment. In the window with the traceback, there's a 'debug' option that will drop you into PDB (I haven't looked at the code, but it probably calls pdb.post_mortem() with the exception object). See

Re: Anaconda should be rewritten in a compiled language!

2012-02-17 Thread Chris Lumens
Just kidding ... sort of. I'm willing to bet that I wouldn't be getting a NameError: global name 'BRFSError' is not defined traceback if it were. (BTRFSError anyone?) Bugzilla at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=794504. You know, redoing it in Haskell really would solve a lot

Re: New testcase for installation without selinux

2012-01-31 Thread Chris Lumens
The installed system must run normally if the user chooses to install without SELinux There is no test case for this now. I have one note on this. There is used noselinux option, but it doesn't work now. I filled bug [2] there is another option with the same effect - selinux=0 and

Re: New criterion for reporting failure of installer and accessing debug mode

2012-01-31 Thread Chris Lumens
The installer must be able to handle the failure and report the issue. The installer must be also able to access debug mode. Debug mode is intended to be used by developers to test and fix anaconda. I don't think this belongs in test criteria. - Chris -- test mailing list

Re: / must be on a partition or LV that will be formatted. Reusing an existing / is not allowed.

2011-10-18 Thread Chris Lumens
And yet several people here on your volunteer test team, the people who are willing and able to use new releases early so that problems are fleshed out and can be addressed before release, have stated that they use this ability on a regular basis and would be pained to see it go. A

Re: / must be on a partition or LV that will be formatted. Reusing an existing / is not allowed.

2011-10-17 Thread Chris Lumens
Does this entry in the anaconda changelog really mean what I think it does: / must be on a partition or LV that will be formatted. Reusing an existing / is not allowed. -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Changes#Fedora_15_to_Fedora_16_.28as_of_anaconda-16.14.3-1.29 It means if

Re: / must be on a partition or LV that will be formatted. Reusing an existing / is not allowed.

2011-10-17 Thread Chris Lumens
Ah only for fresh installs. Well that makes sense. I wasn't reading it for upgrades too, which would have caused a problem or two. I've updated the wiki page to clarify this. - Chris -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: Release criteria: kickstart

2011-08-25 Thread Chris Lumens
kickstart is a very broad area; you can write extremely complex kickstart files that do a lot of stuff. So broadly what we'd need to do is define a subset of kickstart functionality that we expect to work, and then possibly divide that up by release phase (so some stuff must work by Beta, the

Re: Kickstart and grub2

2011-08-17 Thread Chris Lumens
Are there any new grub2-related kickstart settings for the bootloader line in kickstart? No, there have been no changes to the bootloader command for grub2. Should there be? - Chris -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: Kickstart and grub2

2011-08-17 Thread Chris Lumens
OT for this thread but for the record regarding kickstart documentation: the part biosboot --fstype=biosboot --size=1 kickstart entry to create a bios_grub partition on a GPT disk isn't yet documented on the kickstart fp.o page. There's still some discussion on whether we're going to require

Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

2011-08-09 Thread Chris Lumens
I checked in with the kind folks in #anaconda ... for fresh Fedora 16 installations, only grub2 will be used. Then there needs to be an option to install no bootloader. There's no excuse for making anything so poorly documented the default anything, much less an only anything. If you

Re: Post-TC1 strategizin'

2011-08-04 Thread Chris Lumens
So, we have the choice of waiting for all blockers to be resolved before we do the next compose, which might take a while, or doing a TC2 with the most critical fixes in. What approach do people think we should take? Would a TC2 have any value or should we just clean up all the blockers

Re: Well, I have tried systemd now ...

2011-04-27 Thread Chris Lumens
A propos of this, does anaconda warn you may be doing something silly if you create a separate /usr partition in custom partitioning? Should it? If /usr as a separate partition has always worked and doesn't now, it should probably throw up a warning, no? At least Disk Druid should not

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-15 Thread Chris Lumens
Hmm, also what does this do to PXE booting. IIRC there is a (relatively low) limit on the size of the initrd loaded by pxelinux. It's worked fine for me in all systems tested. - Chris -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock

2011-01-19 Thread Chris Lumens
3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing /usr/bin/hal-lock Oooh, bad anaconda, depending on hal. No cookie for you. Fileabug! What would be even more useful would be suggesting what we should be doing to replace the usage of /usr/bin/hal-lock. - Chris -- test mailing

Re: call for tests

2010-12-03 Thread Chris Lumens
I think you may have stated this already, which of the manual installation validation storage tests [1] are now automated using your unittests? Under Install Variations General Tests, all the Partitioning area except for QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_(shrink)_install is now automated. I

Re: call for tests

2010-12-03 Thread Chris Lumens
One thing I look for with different storage devices is that they display differently in the anaconda UI. Likely not something we can test with your framework. We can't do this today. However, a dogtail script is just another method of automating an installation. Perhaps we could finally get

call for tests

2010-12-02 Thread Chris Lumens
As you know, we've got this automated storage test system for anaconda now. I've got enough tests to cover all the partitioning parts of the Fedora test matrix (except for resizing, which kickstart cannot express). You can see the list of tests for yourself here:

Re: call for tests

2010-12-02 Thread Chris Lumens
yeah, I agree this would be useful: we have a fairly ambitious final release criterion that basically states that any failure to install to a valid partition table (where the /boot and / are big enough, obviously) with supported partition types is a release blocker. So we should have some

Re: F14 Alpha - First impressions

2010-08-26 Thread Chris Lumens
c) The GUI install wouldn't work, but I fell back to text install. d) I was disappointed that it would not let me select the packages to install (I want KDE not Gnome) Need the full install for that, LiveCD is GNOME. I was using the 'full install'. The key is (c), you did

Re: RC3 still NO GO with ATI

2010-08-11 Thread Chris Lumens
As before, no text mode option is displayed. Text mode is gone, gone, gone. No option for it will be displayed. - Chris -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: RC3 still NO GO with ATI

2010-08-11 Thread Chris Lumens
Text mode is gone, gone, gone. No option for it will be displayed. Passing 'text' option to kernel seems to work fine. What did I not catch? If you know the secret, you can get to it. But we don't go out of the way to broadcast it. - Chris -- test mailing list

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC1 Available Now!

2010-08-06 Thread Chris Lumens
There's a kernel panic in the first stage of anaconda in x86_64 boot.iso (probably in other x86_64 images as well): Bug 621775 - kernel panic- not syncing: VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(9,2) anaconda hasn't even started running at this point, so it's a little disingenuous