Re: rawhide report: 20150112 changes

2015-01-14 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:09:27 -0800 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > Another day, another rev of rawhide that won't come up in X. > > I am amazed how much Linux administration now depends on X. > I think I recall that gnome-session was the problem. Downgrading same should help. -- test mailing

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-21 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 13:42:12 -0400 "Clyde E. Kunkel" wrote: > On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:12:09 -0700 > Tom London wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The tt (and the liked lkml thread) describes a simpler solution. > > > >

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-21 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:12:09 -0700 Tom London wrote: > > > > > > The tt (and the liked lkml thread) describes a simpler solution. > > The issue appears to be not with pulseaudio per se, but with the > handling of USB audio devices. > > Since my only USB audio device is a Logiteck webcam (per

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-19 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:49:57 -0700 Tom London wrote: > On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel < > clydekunkel7...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 12:45:10 -0400 > > "Clyde E. Kunkel" wrote: > > > > > On Sat

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-19 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 12:45:10 -0400 "Clyde E. Kunkel" wrote: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:32:00 -0700 > Tom London wrote: > > > May be a red herring. The file does not exist on my machine booted > with kernel-3.14. Apologies for not deleting majority of msg in my prev

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-19 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:32:00 -0700 Tom London wrote: > On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Tom London wrote: > > > I also had not been able to get a 3-15 kernel to boot-up/display > > the Gnome desktop (Lenovo X200, Intel graphics). > > > > I had tried my usual tricks: > > 1. boot with enforcing=0

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-19 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:22:49 -0700 Tom London wrote: > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM, poma > wrote: > > > On 17.04.2014 23:54, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 23:13:52 +0200 > > > poma wrote: > > > > &g

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 23:13:52 +0200 poma wrote: > On 17.04.2014 22:16, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > > ... > > very obtuse. Please explain what they have to do with the problem. > > > > Why do you use the Rawhide in the first place? > > > poma > >

Re: Modesetting failure with kernel 3.15; ok with kernel 3.14

2014-04-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:26:26 -0500 Steven Usdansky wrote: > Not sure where to report this problem (or what I should be looking > for), but when booting any of the 3.15 kernels, kernel-modesetting > fails and X comes up with a resolution of 1024x768, rather than the > 1680x1050 resolution specifi

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 06:19:06 +0200 poma wrote: > On 17.04.2014 04:34, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:28:11 +0200 > > poma wrote: > > > >> On 17.04.2014 02:11, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 17:00 -0700, Adam Will

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:52:55 +0800 Christopher Meng wrote: > Are yo sure it's caused by newer kernel? > > I just updated my system, can't use KDM to login into GNOME, > ctrl-alt-f2 and startx manully solved the problem. > > 3.14 stable kernel here. Yes. None of the 3.15 kernels in rawhide all

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:28:11 +0200 poma wrote: > On 17.04.2014 02:11, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 17:00 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 17:41 -0600, Pete Travis wrote: > >>> On Apr 16, 2014 9:12 AM, "Clyde E. Kunke

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 17:11:07 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 17:00 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 17:41 -0600, Pete Travis wrote: > > > On Apr 16, 2014 9:12 AM, "Clyde E. Kunkel" > > > wrote: > > > &g

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:07:40 -0600 Mike Ruckman wrote: > On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 11:11:46 -0400 > "Clyde E. Kunkel" wrote: > > > With all of the kernels in the rawhide 3.15 series so far the gnome > > desktop fails to load. Kernels in the 3.14 series are fine. >

Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:21:24 -0700 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > I tend to avoid the current Gnome, but was able to get a Gnome desktop > with Tuesday's Rawhide 3.15 rc1 with a bit of prodding. I don't > think Gnome works on wayland yet. > > > > Any help appreciated. > > > > TIA > Wayland?

kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop

2014-04-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
With all of the kernels in the rawhide 3.15 series so far the gnome desktop fails to load. Kernels in the 3.14 series are fine. All I can see is that the X server seems to start (ps -A | grep Xorg returns a PID), but the Xorg.0.log is empty. No obvious failures in journalctl -xb. I see gdm is s

Re: Anaconda, manual partitioning

2014-03-25 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 11:10:35 -0600 Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > I'd just let Manual Partitioning be a free for all between the > > Anaconda team and its volunteer user base to decide both features > > and quality level, and leave Fedora QA completely out of it. > > I still think that's correct

Re: Anaconda, manual partitioning

2014-03-25 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:04:08 -0600 Chris Murphy wrote: > > After aggressively defending the Anaconda team much of the weekend > from people on users@ suggesting the installer was somewhere between > useless crap and willfully designed to piss users off, I read this > revelation: > > https://bug

Re: Scriptlet errors (Was: Did anyone's F20 system randomly "reboot" after updating from updates-testing just recently?)

2014-01-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/16/2014 11:03 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 09:22 -0600, Dan Mossor wrote: I forgot to mention that - I haven't typed the letters dnf at all on this system until I wrote this email. Yum is what I know, yum is what I use. Also forgot to mention that I have systemd-208-9.fc2

Re: '10 Years of Fedora' t-shirt

2014-01-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/11/2014 12:32 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:15:23 -0800 Richard Vickery wrote: Is it possible to get this mail sent out again? I missed it and would like a t-shirt as well. When did the email come out? Perhaps I will merely go to that date and time and reply. Check is

Re: '10 Years of Fedora' t-shirt

2014-01-10 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
elix Miata Rodd Clarkson Ankur Sinha Tore Anderson (IPv6 testing) Edward Kirk (tk009) Patrick O'Callaghan Rob Healey Tom Horsley Adel Gadllah Michael Cronenworth Ed Greshko Scott Robbins "Clyde E. Kunkel" Antonio Olivares "Robert P. J. Day" Michal Jaegermann cornel panceac Fra

Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 12/06/2013 03:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 15:28 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: All of the above is fine. However, your are exhibiting profound arrogance in stepping in for real fedora managers/developers. Do your RFEs and your own bzs, but, leave other peoples bz

Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 12/06/2013 03:07 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038885 Closed the first time because it's not an F20 bug. As mentioned in bug 864198 it's intended behavior. Also closed because the sum

Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 12/06/2013 10:56 AM, Karel Volný wrote: Hi, Dne pátek, 6. prosince 2013 16:19:35 CEST, Clyde E. Kunkel napsal(a): Is there a policy or other guidance on who is allowed to close another persons bz? For example, can a person who is not a member of the action developer or bugzappers group

Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
Is there a policy or other guidance on who is allowed to close another persons bz? For example, can a person who is not a member of the action developer or bugzappers group close a bz, especially a non-trivial bz? TIA -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: packagekit msgs from syslogd

2013-12-05 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 12/05/2013 04:33 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 4 December 2013 21:36, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: Message from syslogd@P5K-EWIFI at Dec 4 16:33:46 ... PackageKit:get-updates transaction /4692_ccdcccba from uid 1000 finished with success after 10490ms My error, sorry. I've fixed this i

packagekit msgs from syslogd

2013-12-04 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
How do we get rid of the subject msgs? They spam an open gnome-terminal like: Message from syslogd@P5K-EWIFI at Dec 4 16:33:46 ... PackageKit:get-updates transaction /4692_ccdcccba from uid 1000 finished with success after 10490ms Message from syslogd@P5K-EWIFI at Dec 4 16:33:46 ... Pack

Re: /etc/default/grub initialization?; more about RC5 (with KDE)

2013-11-09 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/09/2013 12:29 AM, Felix Miata wrote: I installed 20betaRC5 the night it was announced, without installing bootloader, since stealing my MBR is not acceptable. After a bunch of boots and general housekeeping and testing and finding os-prober, grubby, grub2-tools and grub2 installed, I procee

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-28 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/27/2013 09:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 08:49:51PM -0500, dkrawchuk wrote: I agree. I find these digressions interesting and informative. They _really do_ keep coming up. What if we create a Fedora Old-Timers list for this kind of discussion? I'm not even kidding

Re: A different way of installing Fedora

2013-09-27 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/27/2013 01:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 22:06 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: I do find the 'who's been using computers longer?' competitions that seem to be ensuing on all sorts of lists lately a bit tiresome :) Why tiresome? It is a bit interesting. Way better t

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

2013-09-23 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/23/2013 05:49 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Greetings you all After bit of irc discussion there is a compelling reason to move entirely away from Red Hat bugzilla as well as away from concept of hosting our own. Now it pretty much boils down to this. 1. Generic attitude of many main

python-blivet-0.22-1.fc20

2013-09-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
This guy (python-blivet-0.22-1.fc20) needs some karma to get pushed to the alpha release. Please. Thanks. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: swap space in fstab not honoured in Fedora 20 (pre-alpha something)

2013-09-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/15/2013 03:11 PM, nonamedotc wrote: Is anyone else seeing the following problem? Swap space in Fedora 20 is not detected. /etc/fstab /dev/mapper/luks-UUID2 / ext4 defaults,x-systemd.device-timeout=0 1 1 UUID=UUID-BOOT /boot ext4 defaults

Disappearing cursor in rawhide

2013-06-21 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
For some time now (maybe a week) in rawhide the cursor disappears when the gnome shell appears. It may or may not be present during gdm time and initially in the lower right corner region after login, but then disappears but its location can be inferred by moving the mouse around and seeing di

Re: Manual partitioning: Label field

2013-05-05 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/05/2013 12:43 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: For LVM, the Name field is used for the Logical Volume name. Label field is available, but appears it's not used for anything. For Btrfs, the Name field is used for the subvolume name. Again, the label field is available, but the entry is unused. Fo

Re: Request for focused testing on containers (LVM, btrfs) in F19 Beta TCs

2013-05-03 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/02/2013 10:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 21:55 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 05/02/2013 08:43 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 1, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi, folks. I wanted to pass along a special request from the anaconda team for those of

Re: Request for focused testing on containers (LVM, btrfs) in F19 Beta TCs

2013-05-02 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/02/2013 08:43 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 1, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi, folks. I wanted to pass along a special request from the anaconda team for those of you who are helping to test the Beta TCs (for which, thanks!) There are some substantial changes to the hand

Re: system-config-lvm

2013-04-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 04/11/2013 03:08 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Clyde E. Kunkel (clydekunkel7...@verizon.net) said: system-config-lvm is not in F19 or F20 at present. Will it be or is it being dropped? What replaces it? As a graphcial configuration tool for storage, palimpset/gnome-disk-utility. Note that

system-config-lvm

2013-04-10 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
system-config-lvm is not in F19 or F20 at present. Will it be or is it being dropped? What replaces it? TIA -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: [HEADS UP] initramfs - dracut - systemd

2013-03-15 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 03/15/2013 08:09 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote: In case you were not bitten by Schrödinger's Cat in Grub or got around her, you # rpm -Fvh systemd*.rpm dracut*.rpm # rpm -Fvh systemd*.rpm dracut*.rpm libgudev1*.rpm And Schödinger's cat bites back! -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test

Re: Is it a bug in rawhide's gnome?

2013-03-09 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 03/09/2013 03:57 PM, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: The notification area seems to be missing. On purpose, or is it a bug? It isn't missing and it isn't a bug. You just have to push your mouse against the bottom of the screen and the me

Re: Is it a bug in rawhide's gnome?

2013-03-09 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 03/09/2013 01:14 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: The notification area seems to be missing. On purpose, or is it a bug? TIA Well, instead of missing, erratic is now a better description. Moving the cursor around in the corner **sometimes** triggers the notification area. Working ok in F18

Is it a bug in rawhide's gnome?

2013-03-09 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
The notification area seems to be missing. On purpose, or is it a bug? TIA -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Interesting 20130301 rawhide update message

2013-03-01 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
yum update yielded: ... Downloading packages: No Presto metadata available for google-chrome mash/prestodelta | 3.8 MB 00:00:02 Delta RPMs reduced 124 k of updates to 12 M (-10007% saved) Didn't know negative entropy was a new fedora feature

Re: No "19" yet in Bugzilla version field

2013-02-08 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/07/2013 10:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Right. Reports go against Rawhide till branching. Appropriate ones will be magically transferred to 19 at branch time, I believe. The automated bug reporter in anaconda 19 won't let me specify rawhide and won't file the bug since 19 isn't in the

Re: No "19" yet in Bugzilla version field

2013-02-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/07/2013 08:47 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: --- Comment #2 from Simon Green --- The Fedora team manage their Bugzilla product attributes directly. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=908988 OK, Fedora team, punted over to you.:-) I see closed as notabug since 19 only becomes

No "19" yet in Bugzilla version field

2013-02-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
--- Comment #2 from Simon Green --- The Fedora team manage their Bugzilla product attributes directly. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=908988 OK, Fedora team, punted over to you.:-) -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin

Re: Redrawing issues

2013-02-01 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/01/2013 09:18 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:11:16 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:15:05 +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: clutter-1.13.4-3.fc19 - * Wed Jan 30 2013 Matthias Clasen <…> - 1.13.4-3 - Fix a gnome-shell c

Re: Anyone else seeing yum running slow in rawhide?

2013-01-23 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/23/2013 11:01 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: For about the last month or so it seems like yum has been running much slower than in the past. Previously I had seen something similar when running debug kernels, but that isn't the case now. I am seeing a lot of time being used for wait, but there

Re: In rawhide: X server says backtraces from higher in stackI

2013-01-19 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/16/2013 10:31 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: Rawhide gnome desktop acting up recently. Have to restart several times to get desktop that is readable. Several times screens are garbled. Here is a bit of an Xorg.0.log that may be a clue: Any clues where the problem lies? Just rawhide being

Re: In rawhide: X server says backtraces from higher in stackI

2013-01-18 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/16/2013 10:31 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: Rawhide gnome desktop acting up recently. Have to restart several times to get desktop that is readable. Several times screens are garbled. Here is a bit of an Xorg.0.log that may be a clue: (EE) [mi] EQ overflowing. Additional events will be

Re: In rawhide: X server says backtraces from higher in stackI

2013-01-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/16/2013 12:54 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 01/16/2013 11:20 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: exa is the hardware acceleration layer. The radeon driver is handing something down to the kernel to execute through a DRM ioctl, and it's not completing promptly. So either the radeon X driv

Re: In rawhide: X server says backtraces from higher in stackI

2013-01-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/16/2013 11:20 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: exa is the hardware acceleration layer. The radeon driver is handing something down to the kernel to execute through a DRM ioctl, and it's not completing promptly. So either the radeon X driver is suddenly doing something newly wrong that's taking t

In rawhide: X server says backtraces from higher in stackI

2013-01-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
Rawhide gnome desktop acting up recently. Have to restart several times to get desktop that is readable. Several times screens are garbled. Here is a bit of an Xorg.0.log that may be a clue: (EE) [mi] EQ overflowing. Additional events will be discarded until existing events are processed.

Re: Uh-oh something has gone wrong....

2013-01-08 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/08/2013 09:44 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 14:31 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: After installing updates from rawhide 20121219 had to revert clutter, clutter-gtk and mutter to get desktop back. Don't know what is causing this or who to bz. If anyone knows, tell me

Uh-oh something has gone wrong....

2012-12-19 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
After installing updates from rawhide 20121219 had to revert clutter, clutter-gtk and mutter to get desktop back. Don't know what is causing this or who to bz. If anyone knows, tell me and I will bz. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https:/

Re: So Many Smoke Builds, So Little Time ...

2012-11-20 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/20/2012 02:58 PM, Tim Flink wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:19:01 -0700 Tim Flink wrote: A slight correction to this - smoke22 is using an anaconda build with code that will _not_ be going into beta but will be going into final. smoke21 is the most recent build with a beta candidate anac

Re: Floppies available

2012-11-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/11/2012 05:51 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I am sure someone else must have punch cards too FC Actually I do. For nostalgia reasons, an IBM 1401 Autocoder Q two pass assembler in brown Hollerith cards. No blank cards tho. They used to make great note cards since they fit nicely i

Re: How to interpret F18 Blocker criterion

2012-11-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/07/2012 02:09 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 00:42 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 11/07/2012 12:04 AM, drago01 wrote: That's not absurd ... that's reality. I'm perfectly well aware how absurd and real that criteria is Does anyone else agree with Johann that

Re: TC7

2012-11-03 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/03/2012 06:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Nov 3, 2012, at 7:57 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: The bad news: Anaconda 18.24 (approx) could not deal with a non empty HD. I tried a number of things to no avail. Eventually I zeroed out the HD with fdisk and rebooted the installer

Re: Partitioning criteria revision proposal

2012-10-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/11/2012 06:21 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 10:29 +, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: Please include raid 10. For Beta? Is it really sufficiently crucial that RAID-10 work in Beta that we would delay the release until it does? Final is fine. (tho, if the installer

Re: Partitioning criteria revision proposal

2012-10-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/11/2012 06:51 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 23:33 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 01:15 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: On 10/11/2012 12:31 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: We agreed at the blocker review meeting this morning that "most commonly-used filesystem

Re: Partitioning criteria revision proposal

2012-10-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/11/2012 06:15 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote: Am I interpreting this correctly to mean that a beta can go out without support for software RAID and/or LVM, as long as they are not offered in the Anaconda interface? If so, uugh. Also if the intent isn't to support "every bizarre permutation", what

Re: ctrl-alt-bksp

2012-10-01 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/01/2012 01:22 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 16:05 +, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 09/27/2012 07:18 PM, Sergio wrote: Maybe the traditional way of creating /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/zap.conf with Section “ServerFlags” Option “DontZap” “false” EndSection ? No, this was

Re: ctrl-alt-bksp

2012-09-29 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/29/2012 02:43 PM, Carl G wrote: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678171 Thank you very much. Comment 4 in the bz solved the problem. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: ctrl-alt-bksp

2012-09-29 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/29/2012 01:27 PM, Sergio wrote: --- Em sex, 28/9/12, Clyde E. Kunkel escreveu: De: Clyde E. Kunkel Assunto: Re: ctrl-alt-bksp Para: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" Data: Sexta-feira, 28 de Setembro de 2012, 18:12 On 09/28/2012 10:34 PM, Kevin F

Re: ctrl-alt-bksp

2012-09-28 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/28/2012 10:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: System > Preferences > Keyboard In this new window click on the Layout tab and then click on the Options button. In this new window expand the entry for Key sequence to kill the X server. Once you expand that you will see the entry for Control + Alt +

Re: ctrl-alt-bksp

2012-09-28 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/27/2012 07:18 PM, Sergio wrote: How do we turn this on in Rawhide? Seems the keyboard layout has changed to eliminate the checkboxes. Maybe the traditional way of creating /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/zap.conf with Section “ServerFlags” Option “DontZap” “false” EndSection ? No, this was

ctrl-alt-bksp

2012-09-27 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
How do we turn this on in Rawhide? Seems the keyboard layout has changed to eliminate the checkboxes. TIA -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Fedora 18 Alpha TC3 disk partitioning

2012-08-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/17/2012 10:46 AM, Chris Lumens wrote: Custom partitioning is still under construction. - Chris In the current version I see that existing installations on LVs are shown, but empty existing LVs are not. When the development progresses, will they be shown? Also, will we be able t

Re: boot loop

2012-08-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/12/2012 11:35 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 08/11/2012 11:12 AM, Arnav Kalra wrote: i just installed Fedora 18 on my system and i am not able to boot it. it gets stuck at target basic system. what should i do? Installing systemd-188-3.fc18 from koji, downgrading dracut (probably not

Re: boot loop

2012-08-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/11/2012 11:12 AM, Arnav Kalra wrote: i just installed Fedora 18 on my system and i am not able to boot it. it gets stuck at target basic system. what should i do? Installing systemd-188-3.fc18 from koji, downgrading dracut (probably not necessary, but it was around from a previous tr

Re: boot loop

2012-08-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/11/2012 02:00 PM, Amit Saha wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 08/11/2012 11:31 AM, Amit Saha wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Arnav Kalra wrote: i just installed Fedora 18 on my system and i am not able to boot it. it gets stuck at target basic

Re: boot loop

2012-08-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/11/2012 11:31 AM, Amit Saha wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Arnav Kalra wrote: i just installed Fedora 18 on my system and i am not able to boot it. it gets stuck at target basic system. what should i do? I got stuck there on a rawhide install a couple of days back. You can foll

Re: Installing Rawhide?

2012-07-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 07/17/2012 02:44 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 17/07/12 19:30, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: I've tried several variations on installing Rawhide on a spare machine. More info needed Chuck. Rawhide cannot be installed from a LiveCD\DVD. Preupgrade or Boot FPO. It can only be installed v

Re: [Test-Announce] ** RE-SCHEDULED ** 2012-05-02 @ 17:00 UTC - F17 Final Blocker Bug Review #2

2012-04-27 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 04/27/2012 07:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: It's in Proposed Blockers, where it should be. Sorry, shouldn't have scanned, should have studied. Thanks. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/tes

Re: [Test-Announce] ** RE-SCHEDULED ** 2012-05-02 @ 17:00 UTC - F17 Final Blocker Bug Review #2

2012-04-27 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 04/27/2012 12:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: # F17 Final Blocker Review meeting #2 # Date: 2012-05-02 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net The second F17 final blocker bug review meeting will be re-scheduled to Tuesday 2012-05-02 at 17

Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!

2012-04-19 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 04/19/2012 11:09 AM, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel Here a grub.conf entry that works for me booting F17 from a grub1 mbr: # x and y are grub1 boot drive/partition references title Fedora 17 root (hdx,y) kernel /grub2/i386-pc/core.img Thanks, good to know

Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!

2012-04-19 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 04/19/2012 10:10 AM, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: If grub2 isn't designed to be chainloaded in that way, it isn't. Like I said, I believe the answer is simply 'to chainload grub2 you load core.img, rather than using the "chainloader" command'. Regar

Proven Testers

2012-02-24 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
Is this program still viable? Are applicants being accepted? TIA -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: NumLock won't turn off in rawhide

2012-02-23 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/21/2012 04:13 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:28:02PM -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: How do I get the numlock the turn off? (please don't tell me to press the NumLock key!! It doesn't work in rawhide right now. :-) ) Already fixed upstream: http://git

Re: Grub2 mkconfig

2012-02-22 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/22/2012 10:06 AM, Timothy Davis wrote: Once again grub2 has installed dozens (at least 20) different entries in my boot menu. I understand that Fedora is bleeding edge and not for the feint of heart I accept that and have no problem tweaking anything. But come on now! I feel like I should j

NumLock won't turn off in rawhide

2012-02-20 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
How do I get the numlock the turn off? (please don't tell me to press the NumLock key!! It doesn't work in rawhide right now. :-) ) I tried numlockx off, but no effect. TIA -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

Getting harder and harder to debug startup probs (was: GDM failing in current rawhide)

2012-02-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
Is it just me, or is it getting harder and harder to debug Fedora startup problems? We'll see if an old dog can learn new tricks... -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: GDM failing in current rawhide

2012-02-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/12/2012 02:51 PM, drago01 wrote: You are probably being hit by https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789731 Yes, thank you. All is well now. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: GDM failing in current rawhide

2012-02-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/12/2012 02:04 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 02/12/2012 11:50 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: No joy. Downgraded both systemd and gdm and downgraded even more, but gdm continues to fail. Can get to gnome 3 desktop via single boot bypassing gdm, tho. Stumped. Duh!!did NOT bypass gdm

Re: GDM failing in current rawhide

2012-02-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/12/2012 11:50 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 02/12/2012 11:45 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: Dan Walsh diagnosed this as a bug in systemd where it isn't transitioning to the init_t context. I think if you downgrade to systemd before systemd-40 it goes away. josh I'll try, but I ha

Re: GDM failing in current rawhide

2012-02-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/12/2012 11:45 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: Dan Walsh diagnosed this as a bug in systemd where it isn't transitioning to the init_t context. I think if you downgrade to systemd before systemd-40 it goes away. josh I'll try, but I have selinux disabled. Thx for the quick response. -- Regards,

GDM failing in current rawhide

2012-02-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
Is it GDM or systemd that is causing gdm to fail? Or, X? I can boot with single on kernel cmd line, start NM and then exit the emergency shell and GDM then comes up? Anyone else seeing this? What component to bz? -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: F17 Alpha 'TC1' note

2012-01-21 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/21/2012 12:11 PM, John Watzke wrote: Actually neither image seems bootable right now (at least not through a VM) so the matrix might be overkill :-). -- John Watzke Install DVD doesn't boot on real iron either. Dracut chugs along finding all of the storage devices and LVs, sc

Re: xserver restarting with certain usb events

2011-12-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 12/07/2011 02:02 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On 12/7/11 12:20 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >> On 12/06/2011 12:35 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: >>> On 12/6/11 11:27 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >>> >>>> [ 428.783] Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log fi

Re: xserver restarting with certain usb events

2011-12-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 12/06/2011 12:35 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On 12/6/11 11:27 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > >> [ 428.783] Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. > > This message is there for a reason. It means the X server is terminating > "normally", ie, be

xserver restarting with certain usb events

2011-12-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
In current rawhide on one of my test systems (actual hardware, not virtual machine) when I unplug/replug the usb mouse/keyboard (they are on a kvm switch) the xserver restarts. This started about a month ago right after the rebuild of the X stack packages (not saying that is the culprit, just

Re: Release criteria proposal: 'support' /boot on RAID

2011-11-18 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/16/2011 08:50 AM, David Lehman wrote: > > Yaboot and grub1 can only do RAID1 as far as software RAID goes. grub2 > can do 0, 1, or 5. > > Dave > Will raid 10 be supported? TIA -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproj

Re: Remote Installation Testing System Proposal

2011-11-10 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/10/2011 09:37 AM, Tim Flink wrote: > This came up in the QA meeting on Monday and I've put together a > proposal to create a minimal system as a trial. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tflink/remote_installation_testing_proposal > > The idea is to have a system set up so that people ca

Problems with recent rawhide kernels

2011-11-01 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
Kernels 3.2.0-0.rc0.git2.0.fc17.x86_64 and 3.2.0-0.rc0.git3.0.fc17.x86_64 seem to both exhibit problems with networking (NM thinks cable is unplugged), the screen blinks during boot and reboot, and reboot hangs after disk caches synchronized (slow blinking continues). Bz 750007 has details. O

Re: Rawhide Updates Borked?

2011-10-26 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/26/2011 01:07 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > Be more specific about what's going wrong? > > On 10/26/2011 1:08 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >> Haven't been able to update rawhide since 24 Oct. Issues? >> >> TIA >> > > > For two days in a r

Rawhide Updates Borked?

2011-10-26 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
Haven't been able to update rawhide since 24 Oct. Issues? TIA -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: F16 selecting kde and deselecting gnome: gdm-shell error

2011-10-26 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/26/2011 12:18 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > >> Installation completed but at first boot I completed the normal user >> definition and sent profile, but then instead of login window I get a >> window with message: >> >> failed to load s

Re: problems with k3b to burn rewritable cd's

2011-10-18 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/18/2011 01:27 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi, > > having big problems to burn a re-writable cd: after creating a new data > project and dragging the desired files to the appropriate k3b window, I > press the burn "button", but nothing happens. > > Anybody sees this too? > > Kind regards > > >

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