Re: Proposal: changes to "default application functionality" release criteria

2022-05-06 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 1:23 PM Matthew Miller wrote: Wading into this discussion pretty late... there's far too much "GNOME does this" or "GNOME wants that" in this discussion. That is really not how it works, neither for GNOME nor for Fedora - its down to small teams and individual maintainers

Re: F34, pipewire and orca (screen reader)

2021-04-15 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:28 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! Sending to test@ and desktop@, and CCing two folks who > reported problems. > > So I finally got some time today to look into the reports of screen > reader functionality not working well in F34, with GNOME 40 and > Pipewire. I wr

Re: F30 backgrounds

2019-03-06 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 8:49 PM Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > On 2019-03-02 11:54 a.m., pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > > I thought I would tryout the F30 backgrounds. I got the > f30-backgrounds-30.0.0.tar.xz file and extracted the f30-backgrounds-30.0.0 > folder. > > Then I found the /usr/share/back

Re: tracker-preferences

2017-10-09 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2017-10-06 at 22:02 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 06 Oct 2017 11:03:54 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > $ gsettings set org.freedesktop.Tracker.Miner.Files index- > > > recursive- > > > directories [] > > > $ gsettings get

Re: tracker-preferences

2017-10-06 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2017-10-05 at 15:51 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:14:22 +0300, Yanko Kaneti wrote: > > > > $ gsettings list-recursively | grep -i org.freedesktop.Tracker > > While digging, I've come that far, too. Can't say I'm happy, because > tracker-preferences at least made

Re: I'm totally disturbed if trying to install a new desktop environment in Fedora 24

2016-06-20 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 20:01 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 06/15/16 17:53, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 10:37 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > > > > > > So my (aditional question): > > > > > > How to understand the line "Installed environment groups:" > > > > > > reported by

Re: No desktop icons with "gnome on wayland" as desktop variant in F24

2016-04-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 07:34 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 13:50 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Joachim Backes > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi F24 testers, > > > > > > I installed F24 workstation and set "gnome on wayland" as login >

Re: fedora media writer update?

2016-03-30 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 11:52 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >  > The way I understood it, the question to ask yourself is this: what > happens if I'm running Fedora 23 and I go to getfedora.org to > download > Fedora 24 Workstation? > > It would seem a bit strange to give me a tarball download, for

Re: fedora media writer update?

2016-03-30 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 12:07 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >  > > For Fedora Workstation, can we kick this over to GNOME Software, or > should it be actually a separate, standalone download? What about > with > other spins or non-edition Fedora running GNOME? Can you clarify what "kick this over to

Re: oversized icons in nautilus

2015-05-26 Thread Matthias Clasen
This thread is lacking a bit in clarity as to what symptoms you all are seeing, and what the circumstances are. I've seen screenshots that look like nautilus desktop rendering, there were some references that I can only assume were about app icons (maybe in the global menu, or maybe in nautilus '

Re: F22: nautilus will not allow desktop icons if using session type "Gnome on Wayland"

2015-03-30 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2015-03-28 at 09:14 +0100, Giulio 'juliuxpigface' wrote: > Hi Joachim, > > I think it's not a bug, the warning is clear enough. I'd say that > this > feature is not ready yet, but the developers are aware of it and know > it's missing. The message is like a placeholder that warns users, b

Re: Heads up - Anaconda 22.17 will enforce 'good' passwords

2015-02-05 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 18:38 -0500, David Cantrell wrote: > On Sun, Feb 01, 2015 at 09:53:05PM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 14:03 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > I think the main point is the one nirik made; I don't think th

Re: Heads up - Anaconda 22.17 will enforce 'good' passwords

2015-02-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 14:03 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > I think the main point is the one nirik made; I don't think the devs > agree with your assessment of how significant this is. It's a minor > inconvenience; you just have to come up with a password that passes > the check, or use a kick

Re: criterion update: add "switch user" to Shutdown, reboot, logout

2015-01-30 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 09:37 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Kamil Paral > wrote: > > I proposed this criterion because history shows that the approach > > you mention (let's fix it with updates) didn't really work, at least > > for GNOME. So I'm trying something

Re: Some F21 Alpha impressions

2014-10-06 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 10:08 -0400, Jonathan Corbet wrote: Hey Jonathan, thanks for the feedback. > - The main thing is that resume does not work in F21. Things appear >to suspend just fine, but there is no response to pressing the >blinking power button. I simply have to hold it until

Re: after update, suddenly gnome-screenshot won't start

2014-08-28 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2014-08-28 at 15:38 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > did a massive "yum update" on my 64-bit ASUS laptop earlier today > and, suddenly, gnome-screenshot won't come up. if i now go to > "Activities" and left click ... nothing. > > if i run "gnome-screenshot" from the command line, i get

Re: back to fedora 21, from rawhide

2014-07-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2014-07-23 at 15:30 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:11:23PM +0300, cornel panceac wrote: > > > > thank you all very much. is there a way to prevent this from happening? > > > well, read my always-accurate, always-hilarious and always-informative > > > posts on test

Re: Who turned out the light - GNOME Classic - DesktopNames

2014-07-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 23:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > However what's the point now, after more than two months and how it can > > help us here? > > He wasn't linking for you to test it. He was pointing out GNOME's > continuous integration test system, and noting that it covers Class

Re: Who turned out the light - GNOME Classic - DesktopNames

2014-07-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 09:17 +0200, poma wrote: > > For Fedora purposes we treat GNOME Shell and GNOME Classic as two > > separate desktops; Classic has approximately the same status as Xfce or > > LXDE, we ship it and some people use it, but we don't guarantee testing > > or require it to meet spe

Re: why is "journalctl" suddenly running rampant on my system?

2014-07-11 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 07:45 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jul 2014, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > from out of nowhere last night, i suddenly had six journalctl > > processes running on my quad core, each one running at 99% CPU, > > causing the cooling fans to be running full speed.

Re: gdb broken in rawhide?

2014-06-11 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 17:26 +0100, Andrew Price wrote: > On 10/06/14 15:59, Sandro Mani wrote: > > (hmpf, hit wrong key.. continuing..) > > > > I'm getting > > > > Python Exception instance has no next() > > method: > > > > whenever I try to print out a backtrace with gdb. Anyone else noticing > >

Re: [Fedora-packaging] May I file 1000 bugs aka upstream test suite tracking

2014-02-21 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 16:51 +0200, Alexander Todorov wrote: > I want to track which packages *DO NOT* have any tests and later be able to > focus on creating them (be it working with volunteers, GSoC participants or > whoever is willing to step up to this task). In that case, I suggest simply k

Re: Criterion revision proposal: KDE default applications

2013-12-13 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 12:44 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > As I've said, if people are willing to actually go out and do that, then > fine. Does desktop team actively curate the DVD-installed package set? > And to play the counter-factual game: imagine there had been a bug > analogous to https://

Re: gnome-session-properties.desktop with NoDisplay=true

2013-12-09 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 22:00 -0200, Bruno Medeiros wrote: > Hi, all. > > > I'm using F20 and had some trouble to find where to setup my startup > applications. gnome-tweak-tool can set up startup applications in f20. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://ad

Re: F20/Gnome3: How to add own plain colors for usage as desktop background?

2013-12-09 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 10:35 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to define in gnome3/F20 additional plain colours for usage as > desktop background, but I did not find a menu to do that (only 15 > coulours available). > > Any advice? Those 15 colors are currently hardcoded. You can

Re: deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 13:31 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote: > Hi gang, > > > I've got my files backed up with the deja dup. Now I have found that > the program doesn't have an easy GUI. Is there a reason that we have > neglected this? If only I knew how to take its inclusion on myself - > how to up

Re: gtk3 broken/missing icons on kde

2013-10-21 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 14:01 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Hi folks, and welcome to the Fedora 20 Beta blocker bug news... > > can't find any criteria currently that covers application icons (though do > mention it if such a thing exists)... > > At issue here are gtk3 a

Re: gnome settings unexpected values

2013-09-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 23:11 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3253801/IMG_20130924_185026.jpg > > Settings>System: Details > > a. Device name is showing hostnamectl transient name, not static name. I just > tried this in F19 and it shows the static name. So this se

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

2013-09-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 19:07 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Additional concerns I'd have above this: > > - Not all things we ship have active upstream bug trackers to fall back on > - We still need a way to track Fedora-specific integration & packaging > concerns, which would likely get clos

Re: F20-rc3, gnome-shell logoff?

2013-09-20 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 00:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > It was changed because people complained about having their name visible > in public places where they might not want it to be. > -- Thats one reason. Another one is that it tends to be too big - e.g. if your name is Williamson... --

installed tests

2013-07-12 Thread Matthias Clasen
With F19 out of the way, maybe now is a good time to bring this topic up again. There is now a gnome-desktop-testing package in rawhide, which includes a small test runner, and a number of packages have grown tests subpackages which install tests that this runner can execute: glib2-tests gdk-pixb

Re: Negative karma for missing update descriptions?

2013-07-08 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 00:09 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > Well, I hate writing descriptions for new package. > > But this "catanzaro" still gave me -1 to the update. > > You can email me with the issue and I can edit, but -1 is not good. You can edit, and then you'll get the karma back. No ne

Re: user list

2013-07-08 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 08:27 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > That sounds like something new in F19. Apparently after a long while > somebody eventually caught on. On a Fedora 18 installation I do not > know where to look for something like that (and my rawhide box is at > this moment way behind

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 09:15 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said: > > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 18:04:55 -0400, > > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > >rpm db 82M > > > > I vaguely remember a discussion about dropping this

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 09:14 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > - We have both js and mozjs17. js is still used by gjs, libpeas, > > libproxy-mozjs and gnome-shell. Possible savings: 7M > > I thought Colin was fixing everything to use mosjz17. Is that a F-20 > thing? It missed f19, yes. -- test m

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 22:51 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > So here's some results. > > f2e707287dd82cccb05a3fef6b75cb356744ca58 (Jun 14), no update: 1019215872 > f2e707287dd82cccb05a3fef6b75cb356744ca58 (Jun 14), update: 1017118720 > 1a0c28fdf638796bda60ed2785f95eac16a85b65 (Jun 22), update: 100

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 14:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958426 - "19 Final TC1 > x86_64 Desktop Live is oversized (larger than 1 GB)" - desktop team (I > know you're working on it) I've filed an update with some 20 packages, only removing excess

Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-19 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 15:19 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > > It's not a reason not to 'have a feature', but it may be a reason not to > > implement a feature in a particular way. > > > > There are probably a thousand questions we could ask at the fir

Re: language setting in gnome unset

2013-06-14 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 19:13 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 21:47 -0400, Chris Murphy wrote: > > With TC3 I'm finding in Gnome Settings > Users, the Language pop-up > > right under Account Type, is unset. As in, it's blank. There doesn't > > appear to be a consequence of this,

Re: Late Gnome Test Day report

2013-06-12 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2013-06-11 at 19:00 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Desktop team...I know you have this thing about not reading RH > bugs...but it really does mean you miss out on what looks like some > valuable information. Can't it be re-considered? Couldn't you at least > task someone to take a swee

Re: Modal window switching currently active window in F19 Gnome

2013-06-03 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 18:14 +0530, Pratyush Sahay wrote: > > Is it already reported, or should i file a bug? Could you take a screencast of the problem you are seeing ? It is not entirely clear to me. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject

Re: F19 Beta RC2: First log in - GNOME Welcome goes full screen

2013-05-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 10:27 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > > Thanks, I'll finally learn how to prepare my own Fedora installation > image. It'd be more beneficial than watch "Welcome screen" again and > again and again. Ok, glad you solved your problem. I also just learned that you can hit

Re: F19 Beta RC2: First log in - GNOME Welcome goes full screen

2013-05-21 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 22:54 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > Is it possible to disable this "feature"? It might be funny when you are > 10 years old, new Linux user and just gotten your first computer from > your parents. For all other cases it's ... ridiculous? After 10 new > accounts I'll hav

Re: Weird pointer behavior in F19

2013-05-21 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 11:53 -0700, Michael Knepher wrote: > I've been running F19 on my laptop since pre-Alpha, and I've got it > fully up-to-date. Starting yesterday I started noticing strange issues > with the pointer on some applications - mainly epiphany, gedit and > evolution - and was wonderi

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 11:47 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: > Umm hi, > > Who obsoleted gnome-panel? It is required by a ton of packages. > We did, because GNOME no longer uses gnome-panel. All those packages that require gnome-panel are applets, which are just as useless without gnome-panel. If you w

Re: no screenshot during gnome-initial-setup?

2013-04-10 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 22:33 +0530, A S Alam wrote: > Hi > > took few screenshots during gnome-initil-setup everytime, screen > flckered by click on 'Print Screen' button, but failed to find > screen-shots later in user or root directory. > > should screenshot be allowed there or not during gnome

Re: Install Advanced User options...

2013-04-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
- Original Message - > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 06:46:22AM -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > Also, wouldn't it be preferable to have "firstboot" (if that is what > > > it is called now) skip the user creation dialog if a user was > > > created during the install? > > > Yes, that is the

Re: Noveau and Nvidia

2013-03-14 Thread Matthias Clasen
- Original Message - > Gnome still fails with "something gone wrong". May well be because I tried to enable the Wayland clutter backend yesterday for some testing, and didn't expect it to be preferred of X. We've fixed that this morning. > I guess we can do without Gnome anyway. Alw

Re: Did gnome 3.7.5 break things for anyone else?

2013-02-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
- Original Message - > It hadn't been gone in Fedora as of a couple of days ago. It's > possible > it went away with 3.7.5. Yes, the fallback session was dropped in gnome-session 3.7.5. What happened on your system ? Did you get the failwhale (that is what's supposed to happen if the sh

Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run

2013-02-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
- Original Message - > > What has changed in f18 is that GNOME components > > (gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-shell) are now using logind, because > > it offers features that we want (inhibitors and delay inhibitors). > > upower has also been changed to use logind, and NetworkManager is > > l

Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run

2013-01-31 Thread Matthias Clasen
- Original Message - > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 08:44:39AM -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > > > 1) can anyone else verify? > > > 2) is this a bug? Or a feature? > > > > It's this: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690713 > > "You are not authorized to access bug #690713." >

Re: Failed login popup?

2012-12-06 Thread Matthias Clasen
- Original Message - > When the login screen comes up, I get a popup saying: > >"Failed login from " > > Anyone know where this comes from? I'd like to make it go away. > It is always going to be caused by my system at work attempting > to ssh into my system at home, and I haven't y

Re: Disadvantages of offline updates

2012-12-04 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 18:11 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 17:58 -0800, Brian Marshall wrote: > > > Although, after reading those GNOME bugs, is not receiving a notification a > > bug > > on its own? I haven't seen an "updates available" notification since I > > installed t

Re: Problem with hibernate/resume in F18

2012-11-20 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 09:27 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi all F18 testers, > > I have problems with hibernate/resume in F18 after having installed > all available updates (including updates-testing): > > 1. Hibernating from a gnome3 session and then resuming, the screen > remains dark, no in

Re: F18 at-spi* deps

2012-10-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
- Original Message - > On 25/10/12 16:24, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > Its not optional anymore. > > > > Lets take a step back - why do you want to remove it ? > > The same reason I remove all other apps, I don't use. > Which is I don't use t

Re: F18 at-spi* deps

2012-10-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
- Original Message - > On 25/10/12 15:33, Sandro Mani wrote: > > I guess that would be because of > > https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/AccessibilityOnByDefault > > How do I get rid of it. > or at least disable it, in a way that doesn't disable the box. > Aside from rpm -e -

Re: F18 TC3 No Logout Option?

2012-10-10 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 06:45 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > > Just installed TC3 in a VBox VM from the DVD and came across the what > > a probably known issues. Poor partition options, time zone not > > being set properly. > > > > The one that seems to be a new is the inability to logout from GNO

Re: gtk3-3.5.2-1 ???

2012-06-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 12:53 -0700, Rob Healey wrote: > > The only reason why, would be to use it now rather than having to wait > for FC18 to stabilize a little more first. If this is such a bad > idea, then I will wait for rawhide? Rawhide is not that bad currently. Of course, everybody ha

Re: Super+F10 behaviour when no application running / multiple workspaces

2012-05-18 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 17:55 +0530, Pratyush Sahay wrote: > The keyboard shortcut: Super+F10, seems to have been preconfigured to > bring up the application menu on the panel. When no application is > running, pressing this key combination still brings up the application > menu with the menu option:

Re: update-mime-database issue

2012-05-15 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 21:41 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > # repoquery --whatprovides /usr/share/mime/packages/*.xml|sort|uniq > > Damn! Missing quotes! Does grep "all/" /usr/share/mime/packages/*.xml yield anything ? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https:/

Re: update-mime-database issue

2012-05-15 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 16:33 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:20:05 -0400, RR (Richard) wrote: > > > > Unknown media type in type 'all/all' > > > > Not a new phenomenon. I see this in my F17 system, but also in > > F14... even in F8, so it has been around for a long time. >

Re: Testing of packages

2012-04-27 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 14:33 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > Apart of this, there are test-cases, which can not be/can not be easily > executed inside of a mock-environment as part of building. Not to mention that running extensive test suites for every build will put strain on our build infras

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 16:22 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 23/04/12 15:19, Ed Greshko wrote: > [cut] > > > > Of course the OP is only asking for one change to satisfy himself. > > He isn't asking what you've suggested. And, he hasn't suggested that > > a bugzilla or RFE needs filing to cha

Re: automatically mounting physically attached media (was Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER)

2012-04-18 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 03:26 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:38 -0400, Ma > > Honestly, I'm not sure there's any difference at all between 'mount on > attach' and 'mount on any attempt to access' from a security POV. http://git.gnome.org/browse/gvfs/commit/?id=e30a67f3215

Re: automatically mounting physically attached media (was Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER)

2012-04-18 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 16:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted. > Why not? > > In F16, it was mounted. > > In Windows, it's mounted. > > In Mac OS, it's mounted. > > Why should F17 behave differen

Re: No way to add a new app launcher from Gnome 3.x GUI?

2012-04-18 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 15:04 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > I know this doesn´t solve my problem, but I´m outraged. In general, we expect an application to bring a suitable desktop file so it is usable after you installed it. That is even part of the packaging guidelines, last I checked. If the

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:04 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > None of them would. PulseAudio is at a higher level than ALSA and does > not actually provide any kind of interface (user-interfacing, or API) > for controlling individual ALSA mixer channels as Jon wants to. It's not > what PA is _for

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 11:30 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 10:29:27 -0400, >Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > >For the 'make installing obvious' problem, what we really want is to > >just autostart the installer. Unfortunately, the current

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 09:26 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > I was quite depressed how hard it can be for a layman to find a way to > install Fedora from LiveCD environment. If you don't recognize the icon in > Gnome Shell Overview mode, it can give you quite some work to find it. Since > OSS philoso

Re: Weird F17 effect: New gdm-3.4.0.1 presents mysql server account on the login screen

2012-04-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 12:26 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 18:40:46 +0200, >Joachim Backes wrote: > >On 03/31/2012 05:17 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> I found the code used. It is in the accountsservices package, not gdm as > >> expected. > >> > >> There is a list of

Re: Weird F17 effect: New gdm-3.4.0.1 presents mysql server account on the login screen

2012-04-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 09:57 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > It looks like they aren't checking /etc/shells. I couldn't find the code > they use to build the list. They do appear to be black listing /sbin/nologin. > There are a few accounts that don't have /sbin/nologin as a shell, but > don't s

Re: Weird F17 effect: New gdm-3.4.0.1 presents mysql server account on the login screen

2012-03-30 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 09:41 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 14:59:08 +0200, >Joachim Backes wrote: > >Anybody sees this too: After applying all F17 updates (including > >gnome-3.4... packages), the GDM login window presents the mysql server > >account on the login scree

Re: Nautilus 3.2.1 Does Not Work

2011-11-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 13:03 -0500, James J Catchpole wrote: > I have been using Fedora 16 for some time now and Nautilus has never > worked. I assumed that it would be fixed but so far nothing has been > done. I have been watching for other posts regarding it but have seen > none so perhaps it is l

Re: Power button in f16?

2011-10-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 18:04 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Note that someone who I think is involved with acpid replied to say > acpid shouldn't have to hack around desktops at all, and desktops should > work around acpid. Not that I'm saying I agree or I don't, but it's > certainly an alternativ

Re: Power button in f16?

2011-10-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 18:04 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > acpid is not part of the desktop spin, at least. And hacks like the one > > that is mentioned there seem a good reason to keep it off other spins as > > well... > > It is default in comps, though. So you get it if you do a default DVD

Re: Power button in f16?

2011-10-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 09:23 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > Am Montag, den 24.10.2011, 17:41 -0700 schrieb Adam Williamson: > > > On my laptop, pressing the 'power' button in current f16 causes the > > > system to shut down, not suspen

Re: A new applicationadded to the gnome3 favorites bar is not visible if the favorites bar is "ful"

2011-10-06 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 15:09 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > My gnome-shell favorites bar is rather ful. Now if trying to add > additional apps to the favorites (by activities->applications), it is > accepted, but the apps do not appear there. > > If removing in this situation some item from the fav

Re: problems with suspend and GNOME

2011-10-05 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 16:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I believe it was actually mentioned there that this is an error, and > systems connected to AC power are not supposed to auto-suspend. Check > for posts from Richard Hughes to the devel list thread. http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-s

Re: Still singing the fallback mode blues

2011-10-05 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 14:42 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > So the roadblock that kept {cl,m}utter off my Rawhide box cleared and I > figured I could now happily to back to swearing at gnome-shell. Alas, no > such luck. "Something went wrong" still; for an added bonus, the login > screen is now o

Re: f 16 beta in virtualbox

2011-10-05 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 11:32 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 20:04 -0400, David wrote: > > > There are some users that have older monitors that to not identify > > themselves so that the resolution is not properly set. With a true > > install or an install in a VDI. *Most* of t

Re: F16: pressing the "Print" key otside a session [if not logged in]

2011-09-28 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 12:50 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > Him, > anybody knows to which file a screen photo goes if I press the "print" > key if I'm not logged in? I hear some photo noise but I don't see into > which file the screen picture is stored (i need this info for debug > purposes!) > Lo

Re: Can't login via GDM anyomre: Re: Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2011-09-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sun, 2011-09-25 at 17:39 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > I now have at-spi2-atk-2.1.92-2 (from Koji), but no joy--sorry to say. > > > > > > > I need some information on what is hanging where, then. On my system, -2 > > 100% fixed a very reproducible hang after hitting Enter in the password

Re: Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 10:51 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > "libgee problem"? In Rawhide you may need libgee06 (libgee06-devel). > It is parallel-installable with libgee (libgee-devel), which has been > upgraded to to 0.7.0 and strangely decreases its API version from > gee-1.0 to gee-0.8 also

Re: Can't login via GDM anyomre: Re: Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2011-09-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 19:11 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > Matthias Clasen writes: > > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 14:05 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 09:12 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > > Beware the gigantic gnome 3.1.92 update. Somethi

Re: Can't login via GDM anyomre: Re: Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2011-09-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 14:05 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 09:12 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > Beware the gigantic gnome 3.1.92 update. Something in this > > transaction broke the ability for me to log in at all via GDM. You > > type your pa

Re: Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 11:59 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > The gnome guys have been mostly working in f16, so this stuff won't show > up in rawhide until the updates hit stable. (Right now they are in > updates-testing.) They shouldn't hit stable until after a beta rc is > accepted. I have tried

Re: Can't login via GDM anyomre: Re: Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2011-09-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 09:12 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Beware the gigantic gnome 3.1.92 update. Something in this > transaction broke the ability for me to log in at all via GDM. You > type your password, and hit enter, nothing happens. Click Sign In > button, nothing happens. You are likel

Re: New bugs in updates

2011-09-09 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 13:42 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Oh, and more breakage: > > # q > bash: q: command not found... > Failed to search for file: Process /lib64/dbus-1/dbus-daemon-launch-helper > received signal 11 I have a fix for that, see the latest PackageKit build in f16-updates-

Re: Cannot lock screen with gnome-screensaver-3.1.91-1.fc16 from bodhi

2011-09-08 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 09:06 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > After having installed gnome-screensaver-3.1.91-1.fc16 from bodhi, it's > no more possible to lock the screen with ctr+alt+l, nor with the lock > screen user menu entry. > > > By downgrading to gnome-screensaver-3.1.90-1.fc16 I get rid fr

Re: aggregation of gnome tools

2011-09-08 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 06:03 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > In the meanwhile, several tools have been developed for the management > of my gnome or gnome3 desktop (gui or not gui based), but each time I > need to use them I have to think about what tool to use: > > gnome-tweak-tool > gconf-editor >

Another big GNOME update

2011-09-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
Just a headsup: I've put together another big update containing the bulk of GNOME 3.1.91. Let me know if this fails in catastrophic ways. It has seen about a days worth of internal testing and a number of issues have been fixed, but I'm sure there's more to be found. Matthias -- test mailing li

Re: Again: Oh no, something goes wrong

2011-09-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
> On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 08:36:24 +0200, JB (Joachim) wrote: > > > As what crashes, dunno. Some testers have managed to rush out the > enourmous > FEDORA-2011-11915 GNOME 3.1.90 update with just a few votes prior to > letting it enter updates-testing. It has been pushed directly to > stable > updat

Re: Update to gdm-3.1.90-1 and/or gdm-plugin-fingerprint-3.1.90-1 break the gdm login

2011-09-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 10:37 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi, > > after having updated to gdm-3.1.90-1 and gdm-plugin-fingerprint-3.1.90-1 > the login fails (error: "Oh no! Something has gone wrong"). > > Disabling the gnome-shell-extensions (as proposed) is useless in this > situation. > > A

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 14:39 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > the problem is if either update gets karma and gets pushed before the > other, it puts the repo into a broken state. And since they're > inter-dependent, it causes confusion like people -1ing the gnome-shell > update because they don't ha

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 12:08 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Just about everything actually is, but it was done in fits and starts > > and the Bodhi update edited over time, so not everything has made it to > > every mirror yet. If you're particularly impatient you can set up a side > > repo

Re: where is my aisleriot-solitaire in F16

2011-08-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 17:53 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > Because of some reasons, *aisleriot-solitaire* from gnome-games was > lost. Somebody can help? Reinstall of gnome-games does'nt re-install it:-( > aisleriot got split off from gnome-games into its own module upstream, and is now waiting

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 11:35 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > I have not seen any mention of this on the list so far so here it goes. > I've been seeing gnome dep problems for the last few days (through alpha > rc's and now alpha). > Error: Protected multilib versions: > gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-2.fc16.

Re: Evolution on F16

2011-08-18 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 12:18 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > F16 Alpha RC5 installed, with KDE desktop and > evolution-3.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64 and noticed couple different things. > > 1 - When clicking on the menus up top, such as File, Edit, etc.., the > color of the menu itself is extremely white (or b

Re: Nightly livecd creation fail - libcamel.so

2011-07-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 08:51 -0400, James Laska wrote: > Greetings gang, > > I noticed that the nightly live image build failed [1]. I spoke with > mclasen on IRC and it seems to be a result of a recent > evolution-data-server build. Mbarnes is investigating, stay tuned. > > Error creating Live

Re: Draft meeting SOP

2011-07-12 Thread Matthias Clasen
On mar, 2011-07-12 at 12:48 -0400, James Laska wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 11:29 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:39:45 -0400, > > James Laska wrote: > > > On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 11:18 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:03:09 -0400, > >

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