On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:19:18 -0500
John Morris wrote:
> Which brings up a good point. I know that the only way to be sure is
> booting the machine from a known good[1] rescue media and then check
> with a copy of RPM running from there using the --root option to point
> at the suspect filesystem
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 02:20 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> Was replying to the quote below, with some additional responses now.
Then avoid confusion by not top-posting, which you have done
persistently throughout this thread. Read the list Guidelines.
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Was replying to the quote below, with some additional responses now.
Dan
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Subject: Re: F17 Beta DVD install options
On the other hand, has there
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 00:27 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> If the NSA wants to look at your machine, they don't need your root password.
Erm...I didn't say anything about the NSA. I'm not sure where you're
getting that idea.
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On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:19 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> On the other hand, has there ever been a real case found in the wild
> of an infestation that was so good at covering its tracks? The
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Tommy Pham wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
>>> On 2012/04/18 09:42 (GMT-0700) Tommy Pham composed:
>>>
Tried a i386 F17 Beta on an old Dell Optiplex GX280 machine here at
>>
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:19 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> On the other hand, has there ever been a real case found in the wild of
> an infestation that was so good at covering its tracks? The security
> problems I saw in the past were the crudest script kiddies and I haven't
> even seen one of thos
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 02:30 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > And rpm -Va doesn't
> > show anything nasty in the packages that would give an intruder an in.
>
> If someone's owned the machine, they can make rpm -Va say whatever they
> like.
Which brings up a good point. I know that the only way
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Tommy Pham wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
>> On 2012/04/18 09:42 (GMT-0700) Tommy Pham composed:
>>
>>> Tried a i386 F17 Beta on an old Dell Optiplex GX280 machine here at
>>> work and works fine. However my new upgraded home machi
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 19:25 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 18:13 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > Not all hacks involve the attacker posting some kind of 'HAHA U HAZ BEEN
> > HACKED' notice to let you know about it. Those are the _nice_ hackers.
>
> Well they usually DO some
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 18:13 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Not all hacks involve the attacker posting some kind of 'HAHA U HAZ BEEN
> HACKED' notice to let you know about it. Those are the _nice_ hackers.
Well they usually DO something with a machine they have 0wn3ed. No spam
spewing forth, no
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 14:17 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 14:00, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
> >
> > Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
> > --
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> Another OS/2 user joins the Fedora Family. I remember you from the
> OS/
>
> On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 12:22 -0400, David wrote:
> > On 4/18/2012 11:11 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> > > My system is secure. Thanks for your concern.
> > >
> > Fedora 14 is EOL since one month after Fedora 16. Fedora 15 will be EOL
> > one month after Fedora 17. A long time with no security patches
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2012/04/18 09:42 (GMT-0700) Tommy Pham composed:
>
>> Tried a i386 F17 Beta on an old Dell Optiplex GX280 machine here at
>> work and works fine. However my new upgraded home machine fails :(
>
>
>> Hardware info:
>
>
>> * Gigabyte GA-990F
I can upgrade. I know how to.
It's actually a Virtualbox VM running on a quad core AMD box with 16GB of
RAM.
Yes, it is natted.
Yes SSH is open to the internet.
Yes nginx is open to the internet.
Yes other ports are open to the internet.
No I've never gotten hacked.
Any other questions?
Tha
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 14:00, Felix Miata wrote:
> Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
>
> Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 12:05 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> It is behind a NAT on a home network so I don't worry too much about it
> getting hacked. Firefox is almost certainly vulnerable but you rarely
> see active attacks in the wild against Linux browsers, especially if you
> don't hang out at do
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 12:22 -0400, David wrote:
> On 4/18/2012 11:11 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> > My system is secure. Thanks for your concern.
> >
> Fedora 14 is EOL since one month after Fedora 16. Fedora 15 will be EOL
> one month after Fedora 17. A long time with no security patches of any
> kind
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 09:42 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 09:50 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Has anyone tried the recent beta released on DVD?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> >> Does it give
> >> various install optio
On 2012/04/18 09:42 (GMT-0700) Tommy Pham composed:
Tried a i386 F17 Beta on an old Dell Optiplex GX280 machine here at
work and works fine. However my new upgraded home machine fails :(
Hardware info:
* Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
* 3ware 9650SE-8LPML wit
I know Fedora 14 is EOL.
And sorry, I'm not that type. Try again.
Dan
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Rick Stevens
wrote:
> On 04/18/2012 09:22 AM, David wrote:
>
>> On 4/18/2012 11:11 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>>
>>> My system is secure. Thanks for your concern.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>
>>
>> Fedora 14
On 04/18/2012 09:22 AM, David wrote:
On 4/18/2012 11:11 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
My system is secure. Thanks for your concern.
Dan
Fedora 14 is EOL since one month after Fedora 16. Fedora 15 will be EOL
one month after Fedora 17. A long time with no security patches of any
kind for any package
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 09:50 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anyone tried the recent beta released on DVD?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Does it give
>> various install options like F16?
>
> Yes.
>
>> The alpha F17 only installed bare
>> minimal
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>> [mailto:test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Josh Boyer
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:52 AM
>> To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases
>> Subject: Re: F17 Beta DVD install options
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 18,
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 08:06 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> For what? Everything works fine.
For you, and for all those other people you're kindly allowing access to
your box...=)
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On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 01:49 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> Well that's an Anaconda bug isn't it? :)
>
>
> Still not a reason for a rolling release.
Why is it a bug at all? Why wouldn't you want that?
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ent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:52 AM
> To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases
> Subject: Re: F17 Beta DVD install options
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>> Well that's an Anaconda bug isn't it? :)
>>
>> Still not
: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:52 AM
> To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases
> Subject: Re: F17 Beta DVD install options
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>> Well that's an Anaconda bug isn't it? :)
>>
>> Still not
Beta DVD install options
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> Well that's an Anaconda bug isn't it? :)
>
> Still not a reason for a rolling release.
>
> I quite enjoy Fedora 14.
Please, if you do nothing else, upgrade your kernel manually.
josh
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> Well that's an Anaconda bug isn't it? :)
>
> Still not a reason for a rolling release.
>
> I quite enjoy Fedora 14.
Please, if you do nothing else, upgrade your kernel manually.
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Well that's an Anaconda bug isn't it? :)
Still not a reason for a rolling release.
I quite enjoy Fedora 14.
Thanks,
Dan
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:06:42 -0700
> Dan Mashal wrote:
>
> > You can install updates during the initial OS install. Jus
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:06:42 -0700
Dan Mashal wrote:
> You can install updates during the initial OS install. Just select updates
> and updates-testing repo. You will need network when you do this.
You can do that, but then you find you can't restrict the install
to packages only appearing on the
You can install updates during the initial OS install. Just select updates
and updates-testing repo. You will need network when you do this.
So why do we need a "rolling release" again?
Dan
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:02 PM, John Wendel wrote:
> On 04/17/2012 01:43 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> On
On 04/17/2012 01:43 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:38:17 -0700
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
Why is it that yum update pulls in some 500 MB of updates
immediately after installing a brand new DVD? Why does
the install image have to be riddled with stale files?
This is du
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:38:17 -0700
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> Why is it that yum update pulls in some 500 MB of updates
> immediately after installing a brand new DVD? Why does
> the install image have to be riddled with stale files?
This is due to the freeze. Things are frozen while
Why is it that yum update pulls in some 500 MB of updates
immediately after installing a brand new DVD? Why does
the install image have to be riddled with stale files?
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On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 09:50 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone tried the recent beta released on DVD?
Yes.
> Does it give
> various install options like F16?
Yes.
> The alpha F17 only installed bare
> minimal.
Um, no it didn't. It had a full set of install options and defaulted
Hi,
Has anyone tried the recent beta released on DVD? Does it give
various install options like F16? The alpha F17 only installed bare
minimal.
TIA,
Tommy
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