Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 07:22 -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > that is, with the old spin-kickstarts and without the above update, > > we're 19215872 bytes oversize; with the update but old spin-kickstarts, > > we're 17118720 bytes oversize (the update saves ~2.1MB); and with the > > update and lat

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 15:21 +0200, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said: > >> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 18:04:55 -0400, > >> Matthias Clasen wrote: > >> >rpm db 82M > >> > >> I vaguely remember a discussion abo

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 09:15 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said: > > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 18:04:55 -0400, > > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > >rpm db 82M > > > > I vaguely remember a discussion about dropping this for live images > > because it gets reb

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 09:14 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > - We have both js and mozjs17. js is still used by gjs, libpeas, > > libproxy-mozjs and gnome-shell. Possible savings: 7M > > I thought Colin was fixing everything to use mosjz17. Is that a F-20 > thing? It missed f19, yes. -- test m

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-24 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said: >> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 18:04:55 -0400, >> Matthias Clasen wrote: >> >rpm db 82M >> >> I vaguely remember a discussion about dropping this for live images >> because it gets rebuilt ever

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said: > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 18:04:55 -0400, > Matthias Clasen wrote: > >rpm db 82M > > I vaguely remember a discussion about dropping this for live images > because it gets rebuilt every boot when needed. My memory is that we > ended up removing th

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
> - We have both js and mozjs17. js is still used by gjs, libpeas, > libproxy-mozjs and gnome-shell. Possible savings: 7M I thought Colin was fixing everything to use mosjz17. Is that a F-20 thing? Bill -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > - Original Message - > > On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 22:17 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 11:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 14:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 22:17 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 11:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 14:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958426 - "19 Fin

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 18:04:55 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: rpm db 82M I vaguely remember a discussion about dropping this for live images because it gets rebuilt every boot when needed. My memory is that we ended up removing this data while building live images, but haven't lo

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 20:17:23 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On my F19 desktop, I have 530MB under /usr/share/locale; this compresses down to 94MB with xz -- 67MB with xz -9. And we're xz-ing the livecd and RPM payloads, right? The live images get compressed at the end, so looking at the p

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 06:04:55PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > come F20. Here are some sizes as found on the current desktop spin: These are on-disk sizes, right, not RPM size? > translations 402M On my F19 desktop, I have 530MB under /usr/share/locale; this compresses down to 94MB with xz

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 06:04:55PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > - Both festival and flite are getting pulled in by speech-dispatcher. > Possible savings: 9M. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799140 The festival package needs to be update to the latest version, a possible F20 feature.

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 22:51 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > So here's some results. > > f2e707287dd82cccb05a3fef6b75cb356744ca58 (Jun 14), no update: 1019215872 > f2e707287dd82cccb05a3fef6b75cb356744ca58 (Jun 14), update: 1017118720 > 1a0c28fdf638796bda60ed2785f95eac16a85b65 (Jun 22), update: 100

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 01:38 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 09:54:53PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Going too big does have consequences: a, say, 2GB download is pretty > > slow for some people, some people do still have nasty caps, and at some > > point you start gettin

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 22:17 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 11:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 14:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958426 - "19 Final TC1 > > > x86_64 Desktop Live is overs

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 09:54:53PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Going too big does have consequences: a, say, 2GB download is pretty > slow for some people, some people do still have nasty caps, and at some > point you start getting people saying 'why does it have to be so big? At that point, m

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 11:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 14:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958426 - "19 Final TC1 > > x86_64 Desktop Live is oversized (larger than 1 GB)" - desktop team (I > > know you're working on

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 18:51 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 11:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > I've filed an update with some 20 packages, only removing excess baggage > > from /usr/share/doc (duplicate docs, large ChangeLog files, etc). It > > touches nothing outside /

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 11:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 14:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958426 - "19 Final TC1 > > x86_64 Desktop Live is oversized (larger than 1 GB)" - desktop team (I > > know you're working on

Re: Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 14:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958426 - "19 Final TC1 > x86_64 Desktop Live is oversized (larger than 1 GB)" - desktop team (I > know you're working on it) I've filed an update with some 20 packages, only removing excess

Fedora 19 Final blocker status: fix and karma requests

2013-06-21 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey folks, time for another F19 Final status update! We're looking relatively hopeful at this point, but still some work to be done. Outstanding blockers We need fixes for: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924162 - "A software selection with dependency errors is