Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-31 Thread Jon Stanley
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> That's an implementation detail. It's not a capability-driven >> description of which packages should actually be in the minimal package >> set, as was discussed earlier in the thread. > > Merely stating that if you're linking to what the

Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-31 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 10:52 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Petr Schindler (pschi...@redhat.com) said: > > > > Yeah. As far as QA is concerned, the key questions are 'is there a > > > > minimal package set present, does an install with that package

Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 10:52 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Petr Schindler (pschi...@redhat.com) said: > > > Yeah. As far as QA is concerned, the key questions are 'is there a > > > minimal package set present, does an install with that package set > > > complete properly, does it boot'. What's *i

Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 10:52 -0500, Petr Schindler wrote: > > From: "Adam Williamson" > > To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:51:56 AM > > Subject: Re: New criterion for install

Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-31 Thread Bill Nottingham
Petr Schindler (pschi...@redhat.com) said: > > Yeah. As far as QA is concerned, the key questions are 'is there a > > minimal package set present, does an install with that package set > > complete properly, does it boot'. What's *in* it is not really our > > concern. > > So new beta criteria sho

Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-31 Thread Petr Schindler
> From: "Adam Williamson" > To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" > > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:51:56 AM > Subject: Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages > > On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 21:56 -0500, Jon S

Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 21:56 -0500, Jon Stanley wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Yeah, this is kind of problematic, because I don't really want the > > release criteria to prescribe exactly what the 'minimal' package set > > should include. Perhaps we should j

Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-30 Thread Jon Stanley
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Yeah, this is kind of problematic, because I don't really want the > release criteria to prescribe exactly what the 'minimal' package set > should include. Perhaps we should just explicitly refer to 'the > installer's "minimal" package set

Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 19:57 -0500, Jon Stanley wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > We could phrase it a little bit more similarly to the existing default > > install criterion: > > > > "The installer must be able to complete package installation with the > > def

Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-30 Thread Jon Stanley
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > We could phrase it a little bit more similarly to the existing default > install criterion: > > "The installer must be able to complete package installation with the > default package set for each supported installation method" > > Perhaps

Re: New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 11:25 -0500, Petr Schindler wrote: > I propose new beta criterion: > > "The installer must be able to install system with minimal usable set of > packages." > > There is test case [1] associated with alpha, I'd change it to beta release > level. > > [1] > https://fedora

New criterion for installation with minimal set of packages

2012-01-30 Thread Petr Schindler
I propose new beta criterion: "The installer must be able to install system with minimal usable set of packages." There is test case [1] associated with alpha, I'd change it to beta release level. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Package_Sets_Minimal_Package_Install -- test ma