Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 20:10 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 1 November 2010 17:20, Adam Williamson wrote: > > A few days after would be rather bad and should have been previously > > clearly communicated, given that preupgrade is one of our official 'Good > > Ways To Upgrade' and lots of people

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread James Laska
> - Original Message - > From: test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To: For testers of Fedora development releases > > Sent: Mon Nov 01 13:20:35 2010 > Subject: Re: Preupgrade change? > > On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +, Richard Hughes wrote: >

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread Richard Hughes
On 1 November 2010 17:20, Adam Williamson wrote: > A few days after would be rather bad and should have been previously > clearly communicated, given that preupgrade is one of our official 'Good > Ways To Upgrade' and lots of people want to upgrade on release day. If > there's a significant chance

Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)

2010-11-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 19:19 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > That might be the case in the US, its not the case in the UK and > Australia where I use 3G for everything from video streaming and VoIP > to remote access work related things with no issues at all. try it on a train from London to Manche

Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)

2010-11-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 13:26 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > The N900 is unfortunately impractical in territories with no 1700 or > > 2100 band providers (or poor ones). > > For 3G, yes, but I live with 2.5G service as I'm almost always near a > WLAN AP. (I don't hav

Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)

2010-11-01 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: >> The N900 is unfortunately impractical in territories with no 1700 or >> 2100 band providers (or poor ones). > > For 3G, yes, but I live with 2.5G service as I'm almost always near a > WLAN AP. (I don't have 1700

Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)

2010-11-01 Thread Jan Wildeboer
Oops. I meant correct use of the "refers-to" header. Thread completeness relying *only* on refers-to is based on an incorrect assumption that refers-to is compulsory and not optional. IMHO. Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)

2010-11-01 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Adam Williamson wrote: > The N900 is unfortunately impractical in territories with no 1700 or > 2100 band providers (or poor ones). For 3G, yes, but I live with 2.5G service as I'm almost always near a WLAN AP. (I don't have 1700 or 2100 service near me). The N900 should be able to provide voice

Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)

2010-11-01 Thread Jan Wildeboer
And as a closing one for OT stuff - the correct use of reply-to is unfortunately optional in the RFC. I knew all of this hence my excuse. Still noone has reacted to the point I raised. But as at least one person on this list values thraed-completeness over content, I gather it is better to simp

Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)

2010-11-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 13:04 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Jan Wildeboer wrote: > > (Sorry for top-posting, blame blackberry and me) > > ... and it broke the thread. You should tell your employer to provide > you a more FOSS friendly device (a.k.a. Nokia N900). The N900 is unfortunately imp

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Jan Wildeboer wrote: > > (Sorry for top-posting, blame blackberry and me) > > ... and it broke the thread. You should tell your employer to provide > you a more FOSS friendly device (a.k.a. Nokia N900). > > LOL, yeah! What kind of a fre

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jan Wildeboer wrote: > (Sorry for top-posting, blame blackberry and me) ... and it broke the thread. You should tell your employer to provide you a more FOSS friendly device (a.k.a. Nokia N900). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread Jan Wildeboer
ov 01 13:20:35 2010 Subject: Re: Preupgrade change? On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields wrote: > > * > > https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/changeset?new=data%40d42e6189dbe4ad7591d422f200a31

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields wrote: > > * > > https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/changeset?new=data%40d42e6189dbe4ad7591d422f200a31ad196125dcc&old=data%404157e81ce428be819a957a31be5a19bcc6bd2efe > > Shouldn't Rawhide always st

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread seth vidal
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:21 -0400, James Laska wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:11 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > > > On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields wrote: > > > > * > > > > https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/changeset?new=data%40

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:11 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > > On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields wrote: > > > * > > > https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/changeset?new=data%40d42e6189dbe4ad7591d422f200a31ad196125dcc&old=data%404157e81ce428

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread seth vidal
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields wrote: > > * > > https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/changeset?new=data%40d42e6189dbe4ad7591d422f200a31ad196125dcc&old=data%404157e81ce428be819a957a31be5a19bcc6bd2efe > > Shouldn't Rawhide always st

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-10-31 Thread Richard Hughes
On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields wrote: > * > https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/changeset?new=data%40d42e6189dbe4ad7591d422f200a31ad196125dcc&old=data%404157e81ce428be819a957a31be5a19bcc6bd2efe >  Shouldn't Rawhide always stay in the list of releases? No, we can no longer preupgrade to r