Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/07/2011 03:57 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: How can I choose hibernate if it isn't exposed? The power settings in the control allow you to hibernate when the power is critically low. If you want to tweak it in other use cases, use gnome-tweak-tool. Rahul -- test mailing list

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-07 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
Yes, I know that. What I mean is we don't give end users that option. They want a button on the menu, otherwise they won't use it. Fab On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/07/2011 03:57 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: How can I choose hibernate if

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/07/2011 05:04 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: Yes, I know that. What I mean is we don't give end users that option. They want a button on the menu, otherwise they won't use it. Fab I can't speak for all users but GNOME Tweak Tool does expose the option and it can be used by end users

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Fabian A. Scherschel (f...@sixgun.org) said: How can I choose hibernate if it isn't exposed? Sorry, I was referring to the power management settings for suspend key/critical battery settings, etc. Bill -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-07 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: I can't speak for all users but GNOME Tweak Tool does expose the option and it can be used by end users just fine if they really want hibernate. To my understanding, suspend/resume gets a lot more testing than

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-07 Thread Michael Knepher
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 15:06 -0700, Michael Knepher wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690648 The issue with my laptop is that it appears to suspend properly, but the screen will not power back on when

Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Michael Knepher
I've tried following the debate over the change to suspend as the visible and default way of managing power, but have not been able to find any resolution of whether the default is expected to remain so on systems that do not either suspend or resume properly or if this is up to the distributions

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 11:41 -0700, Michael Knepher wrote: I've tried following the debate over the change to suspend as the visible and default way of managing power, but have not been able to find any resolution of whether the default is expected to remain so on systems that do not either

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote: I don't think it does this (hybrid suspend), it just suspends. So we are knowingly risking people's laptops just running out of battery in a bag somewhere and their systems dying with possible data loss? As the

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Steven Stern
On 04/06/2011 04:22 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Fabian A. Scherschel (f...@sixgun.org) said: I don't think it does this (hybrid suspend), it just suspends. So we are knowingly risking people's laptops just running out of battery in a bag somewhere and their systems dying with possible data

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Michael Knepher
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 11:41 -0700, Michael Knepher wrote: I've tried following the debate over the change to suspend as the visible and default way of managing power, but have not been able to find any resolution of

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
snip All suspend resume bugs should be fixed hence if it fails for you or anyother reporter for that matter you should report it so please file a bug and attach /var/log/messages ,/var/log/pm-suspend.log and the file from su -c 'pm-utils-bugreport-info.sh pm-utils-bugreport.txt' You can test

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Michael Knepher
2011/4/6 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com: snip All suspend resume bugs should be fixed hence if it fails for you or anyother reporter for that matter you should report it so please file a bug and attach /var/log/messages ,/var/log/pm-suspend.log and the file from su -c

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 16:29 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: I'd like to see all available options when I press ALT instead of just shifting from suspend to shutdown. Power Off gives you Restart as an option, now, but Hibernate isn't exposed anyway. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey

Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 15:06 -0700, Michael Knepher wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690648 The issue with my laptop is that it appears to suspend properly, but the screen will not power back on when trying to resume. Everything else seems to work OK (had headphones plugged