Re: maintaining minimal

2013-09-29 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 09/28/2013 10:50 PM, Felix Miata wrote: At this point, 'yum install kdm konsole kcalc konqueror ksnapshot kcm-gtk' only wants to install 198 packages, with konq apparently a part of kde-baseapps instead of separate. Almost close enough for gummint work. Kde-workspace wasn't pulled. Another

Re: maintaining minimal

2013-09-29 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: In trying to find a way to reach a state similar to #2 using KDE instead of Gnome, I had tried installing several KDE apps individually to see what didn't seem to be required, since if trying to install all the apps I

Re: maintaining minimal

2013-09-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-09-27 19:33 (GMT-0600) Orion Poplawski composed: Felix Miata wrote: I'm not having any luck figuring out how Yum can be limited to installing only hard dependencies when any given package is installed, avoiding nice to have things that take time to install and update that I'll never

Re: maintaining minimal

2013-09-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 04:38 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: That statement in conjunction with behavior I've observed seems to indicate hard dependencies have been created for what on other distros would be suggests. e.g., 'yum install konsole' results in 1 package plus 190 dependent packages to

Re: maintaining minimal

2013-09-28 Thread Gavin Flower
On 29/09/13 14:47, Adam Williamson wrote: [...] Soft deps could help with this, but the Fedora package management folks have been opposed to them for a long time. They have some valid reasons; personally I'm pro-soft deps, but it doesn't look like it'll happen soon. Maybe we should have

Re: maintaining minimal

2013-09-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 09/28/2013 01:38 AM, Felix Miata wrote: That statement in conjunction with behavior I've observed seems to indicate hard dependencies have been created for what on other distros would be suggests. e.g., 'yum install konsole' results in 1 package plus 190 dependent packages to be installed,

Re: maintaining minimal

2013-09-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-09-28 20:28 (GMT-0700) Samuel Sieb composed: Felix Miata wrote: That statement in conjunction with behavior I've observed seems to indicate hard dependencies have been created for what on other distros would be suggests. e.g., 'yum install konsole' results in 1 package plus 190

maintaining minimal

2013-09-27 Thread Felix Miata
I'm not having any luck figuring out how Yum can be limited to installing only hard dependencies when any given package is installed, avoiding nice to have things that take time to install and update that I'll never use. If this is covered in the yum.conf man page I missed it. In zypper's

Re: maintaining minimal

2013-09-27 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 9/27/2013 6:27 PM, Felix Miata wrote: I'm not having any luck figuring out how Yum can be limited to installing only hard dependencies when any given package is installed, avoiding nice to have things that take time to install and update that I'll never use. If this is covered in the yum.conf