Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-22 Thread Bob Tennent
>|One such situation would be where there is a single >|instrument with multiple staves, once of which >|has a normal treble clef and another an octave >|treble clef. I cannot see how to get MusiXTeX to >|do this, because in the clef substitution command >|\settrebleclefsymbol[n]\treblelowoct

Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-21 Thread Dirk Laurie
2018-05-21 22:58 GMT+02:00 Bob Tennent : > >|Is there a repository anywhere of at least all the Taupin releases? > > http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/ > http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/older-versions/ > > The "why simple, when it can be done complicated?" commen

Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-21 Thread Bob Tennent
>|Is there a repository anywhere of at least all the Taupin releases? http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/ http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/older-versions/ The "why simple, when it can be done complicated?" comment is in T73, which is I think the oldest release (M

Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-21 Thread Dirk Laurie
2018-05-21 18:48 GMT+02:00 Bob Tennent : > >|I suspect the result is going to be that it can only > >|be done with some devilishly complex, original TeX > >|programming beyond my capabilities > >| > >|BTW, NONE of this would ever have come up if the octave > >|treble clefs were handled in Mus

Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-21 Thread Bob Tennent
>|I suspect the result is going to be that it can only >|be done with some devilishly complex, original TeX >|programming beyond my capabilities >| >|BTW, NONE of this would ever have come up if the octave >|treble clefs were handled in MusiXTeX the same as normal >|clefs. Just sayin'. This

Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-21 Thread Christian Mondrup
On 2018-05-21 15:48, David Allsopp wrote: The ideal would be for MusiXTeX to be capable of treating it in both ways - as an alternate symbol *or* as an actual clef in its own right. For example, in the singing example Dirk gives of a descant sung by either Soprano or Tenor, the alternate symb

Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-21 Thread Bob Tennent
>|It seems 8 is "not used" as a clef symbol. Would that be >|a way of making an additional "normal" clef? I'm wrong, or rather, musixdoc is wrong: 8 is used to indicate an "empty" clef. Bob --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the

Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-21 Thread David Allsopp
Bob Tennent wrote: > >|> BTW, NONE of this would ever have come up if the octave >|treble > clefs were handled in MusiXTeX the same as normal >|clefs. Just sayin'. > > I guess the use of single digits to reference clefs precluded adding > additional "normal" clefs. Yes and no - what it demonst

Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-21 Thread Bob Tennent
>|> BTW, NONE of this would ever have come up if the octave >|treble clefs were handled in MusiXTeX the same as normal >|clefs. Just sayin'. I guess the use of single digits to reference clefs precluded adding additional "normal" clefs. >| >|We've been there, and I agree with MusiXTeX that a

Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-21 Thread Dirk Laurie
2018-05-21 0:52 GMT+02:00 Don Simons : > Dirk Laurie wrote >> >> 2018-05-20 21:33 GMT+02:00 Don Simons : >> > I’m working on PMX, trying to get it to handle (low) octave treble >> > clefs predictably in all possible scenarios. One such situation would >> > be where there is a single instrument with

Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-20 Thread Don Simons
Dirk Laurie wrote > > 2018-05-20 21:33 GMT+02:00 Don Simons : > > I’m working on PMX, trying to get it to handle (low) octave treble > > clefs predictably in all possible scenarios. One such situation would > > be where there is a single instrument with multiple staves, once of > > which has a nor

Re: [Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-20 Thread Dirk Laurie
2018-05-20 21:33 GMT+02:00 Don Simons : > I’m working on PMX, trying to get it to handle (low) octave treble clefs > predictably in all possible scenarios. One such situation would be where > there is a single instrument with multiple staves, once of which has a > normal treble clef and another an

[Tex-music] Octave treble clef

2018-05-20 Thread Don Simons
I'm working on PMX, trying to get it to handle (low) octave treble clefs predictably in all possible scenarios. One such situation would be where there is a single instrument with multiple staves, once of which has a normal treble clef and another an octave treble clef. I cannot see how to get Musi