Re: [tex4ht] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Karl Berry
is it possible to provide a fully working TeX4ht with the TeXLive install at this time? [on Windows] No. What's needed is to rewrite the Windows tex4ht.env to (a) not hardwire specific paths, and (b) use rungs (the TL script that invokes the internal gs on w32) instead of convert, if that

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLiveWindows install

2010-08-25 Thread Karl Berry
Who's "responsible" for TeX4ht right now? Read http://tug.org/tex4ht. CVR and I need more developers who are willing to delve into the mysteries of tex4ht! We both have a "few" other things to do. Posting bug reports is all to the good, but don't expect instant resolutions to knotty problem

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Mi, 25 Aug 2010, Zdenek Wagner wrote: >> Fedora 13 installs GraphicsMagick as default but ImageMagick can still >> be installed by yum. > > Yes, but both provide the "convert" utility which is needed, right? In some configurations gra

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 4:00 AM, Beuthe, Thomas wrote: > UNRESTRICTED | ILLIMITÉ > > Since I am sending this to both the TeX4ht and the TeXLive lists, I will > summarize. > > On installation of TeXLive, I did a "hello world" test of TeX4ht, > which did not work properly when executing htlatex te

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Beuthe, Thomas wrote: In the case of Windows, it didn't start with gs as the problem. It was convert that wasn't working at first, and in that case, it would be very difficult to tell what's going on in Windows, because windows already has a convert command in dos. In that case you're hooped,

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Reinhard Kotucha
On 25 August 2010 Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > Beuthe, Thomas wrote: > > > In the case of Windows, it didn't start with gs as the problem. > > It was convert that wasn't working at first, and in that case, > > it would be very difficult to tell what's going on in Windows, > > b

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2010/8/25 Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) : > > > Beuthe, Thomas wrote: > >> In the case of Windows, it didn't start with gs as the problem. >> It was convert that wasn't working at first, and in that case, >> it would be very difficult to tell what's going on in Windows, >> because windows alread

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Beuthe, Thomas
UNRESTRICTED | ILLIMITÉ >If the tools were configured to use 'tlgs' then dummy packages could install >trivial wrappers of the form: > >$ cat /usr/bin/texlive/2020/bin//tlgs > >#! /bin/sh ># tlgs -- wrapper to notify users that they need to install gs or ># edit this script to set "realgs" as req

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 25 Aug 2010, Beuthe, Thomas wrote: > This is where the MAC really wins fans. They are running unix underneath, > but the user never really knows it. And from what I hear, they are Yes, they don't have to know ... until it breaks, and then they are lost. And it breaks, I can tell you, wor

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Beuthe, Thomas
UNRESTRICTED | ILLIMITÉ Gah. And here we are with the hand tweaking again. Norbert's going to jump all over me again, I'm sure, but one of the things I always liked about Eitan's approach to TeX4ht is the "just use it, it should take care of everything automatically" approach. Code developers we

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLiveWindows install

2010-08-25 Thread Beuthe, Thomas
UNRESTRICTED | ILLIMITÉ >> Tomek on the other hand seems to feel that perhaps gs is all that's really >> needed to >> have TeX4ht working properly, and points out that it is in fact already >> provided >> with the install, albeit hidden. > >Tomek is our Windows Master, so if he says so I trust h

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 25 Aug 2010, Beuthe, Thomas wrote: > Norbert seems to feel that a manual install of the other software is > required, and that > these packages should not be installed by TeXLive 2009. This is the answer I > expected > given the philosophical leaning of the TeXLive install. Don't get me

Re: [tex4ht] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Beuthe, Thomas
UNRESTRICTED | ILLIMITÉ Interesting replies up to now. Norbert seems to feel that a manual install of the other software is required, and that these packages should not be installed by TeXLive 2009. This is the answer I expected given the philosophical leaning of the TeXLive install. Don't ge

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 25 Aug 2010, Zdenek Wagner wrote: > Fedora 13 installs GraphicsMagick as default but ImageMagick can still > be installed by yum. Yes, but both provide the "convert" utility which is needed, right? Best wishes Norbert ---

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2010/8/25 Norbert Preining : > On Mi, 25 Aug 2010, Beuthe, Thomas wrote: >> The conclusion: TeX4ht requires the installation of ImageMagic, which in turn >> requires the installation of ghostscript, both of which are not available >> by default on a Windows machine, and which are not installed by d

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 25 Aug 2010, Beuthe, Thomas wrote: > The conclusion: TeX4ht requires the installation of ImageMagic, which in turn > requires the installation of ghostscript, both of which are not available > by default on a Windows machine, and which are not installed by default Yes, that is something we

Re: [tex4ht] [tex-live] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread T T
On 25 August 2010 08:00, Beuthe, Thomas wrote: > > Then I noticed that ImageMagick uses ghostscript. > I had ghostscript installed, but it was not in the path by default in Windows, > so I added it, and also made sure that I had the latest version of > ghostscript loaded, > since my relatively ol

[tex4ht] TeX4ht does not work properly with default TeXLive Windows install

2010-08-25 Thread Beuthe, Thomas
UNRESTRICTED | ILLIMITÉ Since I am sending this to both the TeX4ht and the TeXLive lists, I will summarize. On installation of TeXLive, I did a "hello world" test of TeX4ht, which did not work properly when executing htlatex test. The all files were generated properly EXCEPT the .png files. Aft