Re: [Texascavers] RE: Gory, Gory, what a hell of a way to die (Blood Upon the Risers)

2007-08-08 Thread Rod Goke
When I was in grade school, there was another version of this song which was neither religious nor political. I've forgotten (or never completely learned) most of the words, but I recall the chorus beginning with Glory, glory, hallelujah! Teacher hit me with a ruler! . . . and th

[Texascavers] Re: a tee-pee shelter at Sam's Club

2007-08-08 Thread David Locklear
here is a picture of the teepee-like shelter: http://graphics.samsclub.com/images/products/0072700116049_L4.jpg - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For addit

[Texascavers] a tee-pee shelter at Sam's Club

2007-08-08 Thread David Locklear
Sam's Club is selling a tee-pee like shelter in the section where they sell camping gear. It is $ 130. They claim it is 30 feet wide. ( it has an hexagon shaped base ) It has one central steel pole about 10 feet tall, and then you stake down several points. I couldn't tell if it is rain-proo

Re: [Texascavers] Bustamante Project - Update?

2007-08-08 Thread Orion Knox
RE: [Texascavers] Bustamante Project - Update?Mark, As of now, no one has come forward and volunteered to take over the coordination responsibility of the project. The only discussion I am aware of has been that on the Texas Cavers Discussion Group. It is to late to get a Labor Day Weekend Proj

Re: [Texascavers] a salt cavern tour

2007-08-08 Thread John P. Brooks
Do they offer a low sodium tour for half price? On 8/8/07 10:42 AM, "David Locklear" wrote: > I mentioned last year that I wanted to try to organize a tour > to a salt cavern. > > I finally got a response from United Salt Corp. > > http://www.unitedsalt.com/ > > Here is the e-mail they sent

[Texascavers] World's Deepest Caves

2007-08-08 Thread Minton, Mark
Bill, In case you're interested, there were two major connections made in the last week or two that affect world deep caves. In Austria Raucherkarhöhle and Feuertalsystem were connected producing the Schönbergsystem which is 1060 m deep and 120,400 m long, making it the longest cav

Re: [Texascavers] Hawaii sinkholes yield extinct birds :

2007-08-08 Thread John P Brooks
Gee. Thats very altruistic of them to preserve 6 acres of an entire plain of unique habitat! I guess its a start. But it sounds like they are putting a positive spin on it and are looking for brownie points for preserving 6 acres while irresponsibly developing 350 acres. Don't get me wrong. I

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Gory, Gory, what a hell of a way to die (Blood Upon the Risers)

2007-08-08 Thread Louise Power
Hi All Further information on "Battle Hymn of the Republic" is available on: http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/h/bhymnotr.htmThe music is to "John Brown's Body" (later also used for "Solidarity Forever," an old union song), to wit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown%27s_Body Interesting how th

[Texascavers] Speleogenesis on line journal and database

2007-08-08 Thread Bill Mixon
Forwarded by Bill Mixon. I haven't looked at the data compilations available on this site, but I do acquire the issues of the free on-line journal Speleogenesis and Evolution of Karst Acquifers as they come out. The articles there are mainly reprints, but the journal provides a convenient way to ge

[Texascavers] Annals of the Former World

2007-08-08 Thread Bill Mixon
I second (or third) the recommendation that you read "Annals of the Former World." Most of it was previously published in book form (after being printed in The New Yorker, which I also recommend) as "Basin and Range," "Rising from the Plains," "In Suspect Terrain," and "Assembling California" befor

[Texascavers] AMCS Newsletter reprint

2007-08-08 Thread Bill Mixon
RD asked if it would be possible to OCR the scans of the poor-quality first few issues of the old Association for Mexican Cave Studies Newsletter (published and mostly edited by Terry Raines and the predecessor to the current AMCS Activities Newsletter title). The scans on the CD are sufficiently l

[Texascavers] a Kerr County Project

2007-08-08 Thread gille
It would seem to me that there are more caves in Kerr County than have been found. It looks like a good place for Texas cavers to do some prospecting over the next 2 years. Hold off on that publication, now. --Ediger -- Original message -- From: jerryat...@aol.co

RE: [Texascavers] a salt cavern tour

2007-08-08 Thread Louise Power
$150/person! Wow! Cavers must be a lot richer today than they were when I was caving! From:  "David Locklear" To:  texascavers@texascavers.comSubject:  [Texascavers] a salt cavern tourDate:  Wed, 8 Aug 2007 10:42:06 -0500MIME-Version:  1.0Received:  from raistlin.wokka.org ([69.56.185.90]) by

[Texascavers] a salt cavern tour

2007-08-08 Thread David Locklear
I mentioned last year that I wanted to try to organize a tour to a salt cavern. I finally got a response from United Salt Corp. http://www.unitedsalt.com/ Here is the e-mail they sent me today. We do offer field trips by appointment only. The cost is $150 per person with a maximum of 8 people

[Texascavers] 2007 Convention Cavers

2007-08-08 Thread Ronald Adams
This note is for all who attended the 2007 NSS Convention. Many of the caves featured in the 2007 NSS Convention Guidebook were on the property of the Harrison Crawford State Forest and the O'Bannon Woods State Park. There were also several caves on the Hoosier National Forest. I coordinated w

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Gory, Gory, what a hell of a way to die (Blood Upon the Risers)

2007-08-08 Thread J. LaRue Bills
Thanks, Vivian. Things were beginning to get confusing. Jacqui - Original Message - From: To: "Ted Samsel" ; "Texascavers" Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Gory, Gory, what a hell of a way to die (Blood Upon the Risers) Just to clear this

Re: [Texascavers] a Kerr County lead and TSS publications :

2007-08-08 Thread Travis Scott
David and all, Both Station C and Red Arrow caves have been visited in recent years and have a caver-land owner relationship. You can see photos here: www.oztotl.com/travis Red Arrow houses a large bat population near the entrance, so it is not a good one for the ICS. Station C houses some b

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Gory, Gory, what a hell of a way to die (Blood Upon the Risers)

2007-08-08 Thread vivbone
Just to clear this up for our foreign born readers- The song from which all these Gory Gory lyrics are derived is The Battle Hymn of the Republic circa the US civil war. Yes it's religious. Yes it's political. It's the unofficial anthem of the Republican Party. It goes like this: Mine eyes

Re: [Texascavers] a Kerr County lead ??

2007-08-08 Thread Ted Samsel
-Original Message- >From: "John P. Brooks" >Sent: Aug 8, 2007 12:28 AM >To: Travis Scott , texascavers@texascavers.com >Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a Kerr County lead ?? > > >> >> There indeed is a cave north of Lost Maples, however TXDOT has put a >> permanent gate on the cave and it ha

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Gory, Gory, what a hell of a way to die (Blood Upon the Risers)

2007-08-08 Thread Ted Samsel
-Original Message- From: "Minton, Mark" Sent: Aug 7, 2007 4:53 PM To: Texascavers Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Gory, Gory, what a hell of a way to die (Blood Upon the Risers)   Stefan Creaser said: >Don't want to be picky, but isn't it "Glory, Glory..."?   I think that's a religio