Dumb question, albeit more possibly more cave related then bacon treats ;-).
Any concern about using self heating MRE or the civilian counter part
(self heating chili comes to mind) in an enclosed space aka caves? I
know that the mechanism that powers those sucks up O2, does it throw
out CO2?
George-Paul Richmann said:
Any concern about using self heating MRE or the civilian counter part (self
heating chili comes to mind) in an enclosed space aka caves? I know that the
mechanism that powers those sucks up O2, does it throw out CO2?
I think they are okay to use in
Hi Quinta,
Great article. I liked the fact that they kept emphasizing the benefits that
bats provide and some non-lethal methods to control them.
Bats are our friends!Louise
From: quinta@clearwire.netTo: ot@texascavers.comDate: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:48:37
-0500Subject: [ot_caving] Bats in
Does anybody have cave or vertical rescue related articles of the North
American Technical Rescue Symposium who wants to share?
:-)
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I am an environmentalist but do not believe that drilling within our legal
boundaries will do harm to places where oil and gas may be plentiful. Should
harm occur, stiff penalties should be a part of the drilling permit/contract.
Our members of congress are out of touch with the best interest
Does this include ANWR or just offshore?
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Louise,
I don't know but assume that it includes both. But, as we know, the will of the
people (petitions and popular vote) does not always prevail. What I have heard
is that of the seventeen million acres at ANWR, only two thousand have been set
aside for mineral exploration. I also assume
PS Even for those who can afford the high cost of gasoline, they (we) should
not be putting billions of our dollars in the pockets of OPEC member nations,
many of whom are hostile and uncooperative toward the United States of America.
Fritz
From: Louise Power
And Oil/gas has a much smaller impact foot print then most of the other
minerals that would be looked for/developed. Think about the impact of
mines.
Terry H.
Fritz Holt wrote:
Louise,
I don't know but assume that it includes both. But, as we know, the will of the
people (petitions and
Correct. Much of lignite and other minerals is close to the surface and the
most economical way to access it is strip mining which is disastrous to the
surface.
Fritz
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From: Terry Holsinger [mailto:tr...@sprynet.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:50 PM
To: Fritz
How about oil shale and oil sands? We can just bring down mountains instead of
digging holes in the ground.
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Looking for John Cross. Please contact me off-line.
WaV,
I appreciate the compliment. You *DO* know the definition of
gourmand, don't you?
Andy
Quoting Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com:
Andy - I still hold you, your insights, opinions and your abilities,
personally, within semi-high esteem, but I will NEVER, EVER consider your
opinions
Dr. G
...of that of a... perhaps would be the proper tense.
Yeah - I re-checked. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gourmand)
Yup, I still know.
-wAv
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp a...@gluesenkamp.com
wrote:
WaV,
I appreciate the compliment. You *DO* know the definition of
They are for sale on Ebay, starting bid $14. Just the thing to
celebrate the final marker on a 3 day survey trip!
Rob, from Upstate NY
At 03:16 PM 6/19/2008, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote:
WaV,
I appreciate the compliment. You *DO* know the definition of
gourmand, don't you?
Andy
Roger,
I just read this interesting lead article.
It confirms what I already know to be true. That Harry Reed and Nancy Polosi
are both nuts, don't live in the real world and continually work against
proposals that are in the public interests. His idea of gifts to the oil
companies is way off.
Just as a general matter of correction, it's ANWR (Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge), not ANWAR (although it's pronounced that way). Once an editor, always
an editor.
From: fholt@townandcountryins.comTo: caverarch@aol.comCC:
ot@texascavers.comDate: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:11:45 -0500Subject:
There should always be an option.
I hope there is a petition to do some and not all some where out in web land
and that it calls for more wind and solar.
https://secure2.convio.net/sierra/site/SPageServer?pagename=coastal_drilling_petition
Quinta
Quinta,
Wind turbines are being erected as fast as private enterprise can construct
them. I would believe that tax incentives are given by the federal government.
You regularly see them being transported on large flatbed trucks heading west
on Interstate 10 in the Houston area. The latest issue
Plus, I'm not sure you can get enough energy from turbines to power some of the
larger cities. But, I'm not a turbine expert, so what do I know.
From: fholt@townandcountryins.comTo: qui...@clearwire.net;
ot@texascavers.comDate: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:46:03 -0500Subject: RE: [ot_caving]
an
I work in a shop that repairs large industrial turbines.
In a few years, all of these windmills are going to have to be overhauled.
Whoever is there to get the contracts is going to make millions of
dollars. The cost of this will be paid by increases in electric bills.
We have a turbine
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