[ot_caving] computer news - windows

2008-06-27 Thread David
MicroSoft has posted a patch to fix 4 things aimed at users of the new service pack ( SP1 ) of Windows Vista. So you would think now that they are going to start fixing SP1's other problems on a monthly basis. They have also announced that they will have a version of Vista's successor on the

[Texascavers] Etrex Vista for sale

2008-06-27 Thread keith heuss
I have an Etrex Vista GPS for sale.  It goes to the highest bidder over $75.  I will take bids until noon Texas time on Saturday.  It is the black and white version.  The case has a few small scratches.  It has the original manual.  They run about $150 at REI.  It has been replaced by the

Re: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-27 Thread Bill Bentley
A guy in Odessa built a electric car or actually converted a old AMC Pacer and he said it cost him $13.00 of electric power a month to drive it. he works in Midland and drives it back and fourth every day. I think it was featured on the program Texas Country Reporter Bill - Original

RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-27 Thread Louise Power
And I heard on the news this morning that by 2010, gas will be $7-10/gal. List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:54:08 -0500From: wavycaver@gmail.comTo: mikeflan@att.netCC: ot@texascavers.comSubject: Re: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drillingAnd LET ME - Not David

Re: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-27 Thread Don Cooper
Hmmm. maybe I need to adjust my slide rule more calculations inevitably will be distributed -WaV On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: And I heard on the news this morning that by 2010, gas will be $7-10/gal.

RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-27 Thread Fritz Holt
Our incomes will not increase in the same proportion so if this happens I may see if I can buy Locklear's scooter. Fritz From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:31 AM To: Don Cooper; Mike Flannigan Cc:

RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling

2008-06-27 Thread Louise Power
This was also pointed out in the story. From: fholt@townandcountryins.comTo: power_lou...@hotmail.com; wavyca...@gmail.com; mikeflan@att.netCC: ot@texascavers.comDate: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:02:15 -0500Subject: RE: [ot_caving] an option to drilling Our incomes will not increase in the

[Texascavers] wikianswers - part 3

2008-06-27 Thread David
There are 41 questions on the new wiki-answers page after just one week of being up: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/FAQ/4337 Thank you to all the people contributing. David Locklear Wikianswers Speleology moderator - Visit

RE: [Texascavers] wikianswers - part 3

2008-06-27 Thread Fritz Holt
David, I don't think that I know the question. Fritz -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:24 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] wikianswers - part 3 There are 41 questions on the new wiki-answers page after

[Texascavers] RE: wikianswers - part 3

2008-06-27 Thread Minton, Mark
David Locklear said: There are 41 questions on the new wiki-answers page after just one week of being up: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/FAQ/4337 I take issue with the suggested answer to the first question: Who are the top 10 most famous speleologist? (That should be speleologists, plural;

Re: [Texascavers] RE: wikianswers - part 3

2008-06-27 Thread speleosteele
Now I want to look. Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks, Mark. Bill Minton wrote: David Locklear said: There are 41 questions on the new wiki-answers page after just one week of being up: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/FAQ/4337 I take issue with the suggested answer to the

RE: [Texascavers] RE: wikianswers - part 3

2008-06-27 Thread George Veni
This is the notorious problem with Wikis. In principle they allow a great and open exchange of information, but in practice the lack of quality control allows anyone to post just about anything, even information that is terrible wrong or short-sighted. The International Congress of Speleology next

Re: [Texascavers] RE: wikianswers - part 3

2008-06-27 Thread John P. Brooks
On 6/27/08 6:01 PM, George Veni gv...@warpdriveonline.com wrote: This is the notorious problem with Wikis. In principle they allow a great and open exchange of information, but in practice the lack of quality control allows anyone to post just about anything, even information that is terrible

[ot_caving] Solar grocery roof

2008-06-27 Thread quinta
It was larger than I remember. it wa Whole Food that is doing 24 % of it's power with Solar and it was in 2002 that it went in. http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/issues/greenaction/solarpower.html Quinta Grocery Chain Tesco USA To Install World's Largest Solar Roofing System Covering

Re: [ot_caving] Solar grocery roof

2008-06-27 Thread Don Cooper
Well, one of the coolest things about solar panels on the roof: it keeps the roof in the shade! That alone will decrease the amount of energy it takes to cool the building the panels rest upon! That is a savings in itself! -WaV On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:38 AM, qui...@clearwire.net wrote: It

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread quinta
This all smell like a plan of, by, and for the big corporate energy providers. What about using all the empty roof-top space INSIDE the cities, such as the roofs of malls, Walmarts, grocery stores, That is being done - One of the eco grocery stores is doing it and I have heard of others. Just

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Fritz Holt
Good information Wavy. - Fritz From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:07 AM To: rdmilhol...@charter.net Cc: qui...@clearwire.net; o...@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power A couple of things about solar

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Scott Nicholson
I may have wrong information regarding tax credits rebates but I thought there were fairly significant $$ available.  I've seen figures as large as 65% (combination rebates/tax credits) toward the cost of energy efficiency upgrades (insulation/solarwind systems)  And, as an asidemy

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread mark . alman
Good discussion, y'all! All of this talk about solar cells reminded me of an excellent article and technology I read about in Time. Basically, all it consists of is using mirrors focused on a tank of water to turn it into steam, send it to turbines to generate electricity, and it then

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Louise Power
rdmilhollin said: This all smell like a plan of, by, and for the big corporate energy providers. What I'd like to know is who besides big corporate energy providers is going to provide power and energy to this country? We can't get it from the little mill down by the old mill stream. Too

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread quinta
Shell is doing it in Europe why not here?? Nieuwland Amersfoot Location: Netherlands Operator: Eneco Holdings, Amersfoot SCW Configuration: 1.62 MWp Operation: 2002 System supplier: Shell Solar, BP Solar, Colt EPC: Ecotec Systems Quick facts: At completion, this was the world's largest residential

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Louise Power
Big corporate energy providers all. From: quinta@clearwire.netTo: power_lou...@hotmail.com; rdmilhol...@charter.net; ot@texascavers.comSubject: Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar powerDate: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:56:16 -0500 Shell is doing it in Europe why not here?? Nieuwland AmersfootLocation:

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Alex Sproul
Texas is the national leader in wind power and we have the potential to meet the rest of our energy needs with solar power. In fact, if we put solar panels on an area thirty miles by thirty miles in west Texas, we could .generate enough electricity to power the entire state at

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Fritz Holt
Louise, I agree with your statements that big corporations (such as Reliant, TXU, Exxon and ATT are the only ones with the resources to supply the energy needs of our nation. Four Johnny come lately small electric providers have folded in the last 30 days, probably due to undercapitalization

RE: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread Louise Power
The year before I moved to Oregon (1988), they closed down the Hanford nuclear installations because it was so old it was dangerous. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford After I moved to Portland, another installation just north of PDX was closed down for the same reason. Apparently

Re: [ot_caving] Texas solar power

2008-06-27 Thread quinta
' Hmm. Read that again, slowly. ...at prices competitive.with _new nuclear plants_! Ever wondered why you haven't seen any new nuclear plants in the last 30 years? Aside..' Alex, what do you think the new cost of nuclear is? I bet it will be much more than solar or wind in

[ot_caving] I just saw it on CNN.com: Diver soars past own record

2008-06-27 Thread dlocklear01
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