[Texascavers] White-nose syndrome related

2010-02-24 Thread David
I think someone needs to create an e-mail listserve just for WNS, if one has not been created yet. There are already almost a dozen Facebook Group pages: http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=White+Nose+Syndrome&init=quick#!/group.php?gid=76877359038&ref=search&sid=1818118612.3343839725..1 http://ww

Re: [PBSS] 5 Mouth

2010-02-24 Thread Herman Miller
and of course I never have the weekends off On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Sharon Long wrote: > Not tired. Just worried about icy/snowy roads. There seems to be a lot of > that up here. :) > > --- On *Wed, 2/24/10, Jon Hancock * wrote: > > > From: Jon Hancock > > Subject: Re: [PBSS] 5 Mouth >

Re: [PBSS] 5 Mouth

2010-02-24 Thread Sharon Long
Not tired. Just worried about icy/snowy roads. There seems to be a lot of that up here. :) --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Jon Hancock wrote: From: Jon Hancock Subject: Re: [PBSS] 5 Mouth To: "'jlrbi...@sonoratx.net'" , "'p...@caver.net'" , "'dirtm...@angelo.edu'" List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.co

[Texascavers] Cedar Choppin & Kiwi Sink dig

2010-02-24 Thread Gill Edigar
I'm gonna be having a cedar chopping and cave digging party this weekend (Saturday & Sunday) at my land in Rolling Oaks--700 Billie Brooks. Next door to Ernie Garza & Gluesenkamp; across the back creek from Terry Raines. We're gonna be cutting and chipping cedar and digging in Kiwi Sink. Those with

[Texascavers] Cave Rescue Training in Austin Texas

2010-02-24 Thread DJ Walker
All, Cave rescues are few and far between in the Austin area, but they do happen. As was highlighted during the Airmans event, these situations often require the combine efforts of rescue agencies and the caving community alike. In an effort to increase the working relationship between th

Re: Fw: [Texascavers] Nico sez: they dont just practice their marksmanship shooting live targets

2010-02-24 Thread Charles Goldsmith
actually, the rules don't discuss that at all, just says don't flame, don't post your whole catalog to the list if you are selling something, no attachments and watch about replying to all or cc'ing the list on personal emails. I guess I could add more rules about OT and language, but I'd rather t

Re: [Texascavers] Nico sez: they dont just practice their marksmanship shoot

2010-02-24 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Hehe, thanks Sleaze, I try not to, most of the time its pretty good about self policing :) On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:16 PM, wrote: > By the way, I think you do a great job of babysitting such a rowdy and > diverse bunch of rabble! > > Sleaze

Re: [Texascavers] Nico sez: they dont just practice their marksmanship shoot

2010-02-24 Thread BMorgan994
By the way, I think you do a great job of babysitting such a rowdy and diverse bunch of rabble! Sleaze

[Texascavers] Re: Hellhole WNS Update

2010-02-24 Thread Mark Minton
As most everyone knows by now, White Nose Syndrome was recently confirmed in Hellhole (Pendleton County, WV), which is a major hibernaculum for several kinds of bats including two endangered species. There has been some confusion and misinformation about when people had previously visi

Re: Fw: [Texascavers] Nico sez: they dont just practice their marksmanship shooting live targets

2010-02-24 Thread Bill Bentley
I dunno... Texacavers seems to be busy as of late .. not all cave related either... Maybe a general reminder of the basic rules, make me wonder if some even read that page?... Remind them that children, educators, government officials, and landowners are also subscribed to the lists... Most

Re: [Texascavers] Nico sez: they dont just practice their marksmanship shoot

2010-02-24 Thread BMorgan994
Sorry! I could certainly have worded the mutilation part differently! Sleaze

Re: [Texascavers] Nico sez: they dont just practice their marksmanship shooting live targets

2010-02-24 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Sleaze, I enjoy your stories, and I know many people do, but please watch your content a bit, or at least how you say it in here. I've already gotten one complaint, and hopefully I won't get anymore, but please watch the language. Let me know if you have any questions about it Charles On Wed, F

Re: Fw: [Texascavers] Nico sez: they dont just practice their marksmanship shooting live targets

2010-02-24 Thread Charles Goldsmith
LOL, you know that we always get the bad with the good on these lists. In the 4 years I've done this, I've only had 1 or 2 complains on Sleaze, but about 20 on David, and he rarely says anything that out of place. But I'll send him an email, that is out of place for most peoples taste. Thanks Bi

Re: [Texascavers] Yes

2010-02-24 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Minnow, I'm sending this just to you. You need to check your email client, you are still posting emails with no quoting, like below. This is fine if its a one on one email, but on a mailing list, it makes it near impossible to follow a thread easily. Also, you won't find many people on this list t

RE: [Texascavers] snakes? (and other venomous critters)

2010-02-24 Thread Fritz Holt
I better look at the nude caver calendar that someone gave me for Christmas. I may have missed the scorpion. Fritz From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:11 AM To: Rod Goke Cc: Te

[Texascavers] Big Oops

2010-02-24 Thread caverarch
And how the hell did the list get in there on my supposedly private note? The moral is don't take advice from me!!! Roger -Original Message- From: cavera...@aol.com To: fh...@townandcountryins.com; bandits...@aol.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:31 pm Su

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Lampasas

2010-02-24 Thread caverarch
Fritz and Kelly, let's make sure to take further correspondence (unless it is directly cave-related) off the Texas Cavers list. People have little patience for brief notes of back and forth chit-chat on the list, since it is supposed to be for cave news. Just make sure these short notes go dir

Fw: [Texascavers] Nico sez: they dont just practice their marksmanship shooting live targets

2010-02-24 Thread Bill Bentley
This guy should be moderated! - Original Message - From: bmorgan...@aol.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:03 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Nico sez: they dont just practice their marksmanship shooting live targets One fine day not too far south

RE: [Texascavers] Re: Lampasas

2010-02-24 Thread Fritz Holt
Kelly, Still not sure but assume from your statistics you are a female. Fritz From: bandits...@aol.com [mailto:bandits...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:01 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Lampasas Name is Kelly Garriott

RE: [Texascavers] Minnow

2010-02-24 Thread Fritz Holt
Have I missed something during all of the David-esk posts? At 5 foot and 100 pounds could this be Ms Minnow? Fritz From: bandits...@aol.com [mailto:bandits...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:37 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers]

texascavers Digest 24 Feb 2010 17:32:05 -0000 Issue 989

2010-02-24 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 24 Feb 2010 17:32:05 - Issue 989 Topics (messages 13929 through 13938): Re: grotto culture 13929 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com 13931 by: caverarch.aol.com 13937 by: Fritz Holt Re: remove me from CaveTex 13930 by: Charles Goldsmith Re: Nico sez

Re: [Texascavers] Travel along the US Mexico border

2010-02-24 Thread Bruce Anderson
Yes you did. thanks again. - Original Message - From: Don Arburn Cc: Cavers Texas Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Travel along the US Mexico border Didn't I tow you and your truck to Bustamante from Minas Viejas once? All I can sa

RE: [Texascavers] grotto culture

2010-02-24 Thread Fritz Holt
Well, I liked it. My attempt at humor has always been feeble (corny). Fritz From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:16 AM To: Fritz Holt; Geary Schindel; David; Cavers Texas Subject: RE: [Texascavers] grotto

Re: [Texascavers] snakes? (and other venomous critters)

2010-02-24 Thread Gill Edigar
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Rod Goke wrote: > Wasn't there also a photo of a scorpion on somebody's obviously female > nipple? > It'd make a great series. --Ediger

Re: [Texascavers] Travel along the US Mexico border

2010-02-24 Thread Don Arburn
Didn't I tow you and your truck to Bustamante from Minas Viejas once? All I can say is, the Federales have some cool 4x4 caving vehicles with propellers and turrets at the borders. There, caving related and on topic. Don's iPhone. On Feb 24, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Bruce Anderson wrote: I

RE: [Texascavers] Travel along the US Mexico border

2010-02-24 Thread Mark . Alman
Man, I think I'll stay in TX and NM and cave. All I have to worry about up here is rattlesnakes and gun/evolution debates! Mark A. From: Bruce Anderson [mailto:brewskyj...@rgv.rr.com] Sent: Wed 2/24/2010 10:54 AM To: Geary Schindel; Cavers Texas Subj

Re: [Texascavers] Travel along the US Mexico border

2010-02-24 Thread Bruce Anderson
I actually live in deep south Texas in McAllen. I was in Juarez the first of the month and I can tell you that it is just as bad here as there only they keep it quiet around here. The problem is that you need to be very aware of your surroundings. Bullets do not care what is in their path. T

Re: [Texascavers] Nico sez: they dont just practice their marksmanship shooting live targets

2010-02-24 Thread Nico Escamilla
Sounds like you didnt get shot at all did you? People get "relieved" of cash and/or beer all the time, but that doesnt mean that our rather corrupt law enforcement will just shoot you for no reason (not stopping at an army checkpoint will turn your car into a strainer, but I digress) my advice for

Re: [Texascavers] grotto culture

2010-02-24 Thread caverarch
Oh, no, not there again! And do you really want to know? -Original Message- From: John Brooks To: Geary Schindel Cc: David ; Cavers Texas Sent: Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:12 am Subject: Re: [Texascavers] grotto culture Another question: do any members of any of the grottoes carry concea

Re: [Texascavers] remove me from CaveTex

2010-02-24 Thread Charles Goldsmith
AOL makes it difficult at times get removed for some reason that I can't explain. You are removed. I'm sorry that a new caver is running you off, I personally just hit the delete button :) Yes, I plan to be at CaCa on May 8th, so hope to see you there! Charles On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 6:50 AM,

RE: [Texascavers] grotto culture

2010-02-24 Thread Mark . Alman
Groan! Mark From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Wed 2/24/2010 10:08 AM To: 'Geary Schindel'; David; Cavers Texas Subject: RE: [Texascavers] grotto culture Surely you joust. -Original Message- From: Geary Schindel [mailto:g

texascavers Digest 24 Feb 2010 16:17:31 -0000 Issue 988

2010-02-24 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 24 Feb 2010 16:17:31 - Issue 988 Topics (messages 13909 through 13928): Re: Query: gassing snake dens 13909 by: Rod Goke 13921 by: Kerry Lowery Hands across the waters: Mammoth Cave, WKU and Slovenia partnership : 13910 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com Re:

[Texascavers] snakes? (and other venomous critters)

2010-02-24 Thread caverarch
Rod, if it were the rancher that snuffed the snake I wouldn't have spoken up (for the sake of landowner relations and all that). But it was the cavers, and that kind of surprised me (though I'm sure the rancher would have approved at the time). It's just that Florida is almost as thick on the

RE: [Texascavers] grotto culture

2010-02-24 Thread Fritz Holt
Surely you joust. -Original Message- From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 7:58 AM To: David; Cavers Texas Subject: RE: [Texascavers] grotto culture David, It was nice to see you at the Bexar Grotto meeting on Monday. Nice descrip

[Texascavers] Nico sez: they dont just practice their marksmanship shooting live targets

2010-02-24 Thread BMorgan994
One fine day not too far south of Juarez I was tootling along when I ran into a checkpoint manned by a bunch of guys in orange jumpsuits who I presumed to be Federales. They were massively armed with all sorts of high powered automatic and semiautomatic rifles and pistols which they were u

Re: [Texascavers] grotto culture

2010-02-24 Thread egelsone
What? The idea of a CONCEALED Carry Permit is to keep it CONCEALED. What possible relevence does this have? Do you search the patrons of youir local MacDonalds? Your fellow movie going friends? This is pure silliness. John Brooks wrote: > Another question: do any members of any of the

[Texascavers] Travel along the US Mexico border

2010-02-24 Thread Geary Schindel
This is in response to the new posting on travel to Mexico. This is from my caver friend that works in the Office of Homeland Security here in San Antonio. He is also on Texas Cavers list but prefers to keep a low profile. Something to think about. Geary Hi Geary! They said they were goi

Re: Re: [Texascavers] grotto culture

2010-02-24 Thread tbsamsel
Lest we forget, Pancho:   "He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to feel"Feb 24, 2010 09:13:00 AM, jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Another question: do any members of any of the grottoes carry concealed firearms to grotto meetings?Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 24, 2010, at 7:58 A

Re: [Texascavers] grotto culture

2010-02-24 Thread John Brooks
Another question: do any members of any of the grottoes carry concealed firearms to grotto meetings? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2010, at 7:58 AM, Geary Schindel wrote: David, It was nice to see you at the Bexar Grotto meeting on Monday. Nice description of the various grottos. I was w

RE: [Texascavers] Query: gassing snake dens

2010-02-24 Thread Kerry Lowery
Gassing of snake dens is mostly a practice of the past. Snake hunters have figgered out that once you gas a den the snakes no longer want to live there. It can take years, if ever, for the snakes to rehabitate the den. Just like big deer leases and hunters who try to manage their herd, snake hunt

Re: [PBSS] 5 Mouth

2010-02-24 Thread Jon Hancock
I was just kidding. - Original Message - From: Kerry Lowery To: Jon Hancock; jlrbi...@sonoratx.net ; p...@caver.net ; dirtm...@angelo.edu Sent: Wed Feb 24 08:44:29 2010 Subject: RE: [PBSS] 5 Mouth Not tired of digging. Just too much on the agenda. I was gonna try to make it but haven

Re: [PBSS] 5 Mouth

2010-02-24 Thread Kerry Lowery
Not tired of digging. Just too much on the agenda. I was gonna try to make it but haven't figgered out which direction im more in need of heading this weekend yet. Keep us up to date Jacqui and if I can make it I will. Kerry -Original Message- From: pbss-boun...@caver.net [mailto:pbss-

Re: [Texascavers] snakes? (and other venomous critters)

2010-02-24 Thread Rod Goke
After seeing that, how many Mexican kids were inspired to put scorpions into their own mouths, without knowing about the stinger removal trick? Ouch, I bet that burned even more than the spicy food they eat down there!Come to think of it, I remember seeing that "scorpion on the tongue" photo in som

Re: [Texascavers] grotto culture

2010-02-24 Thread Mallory Mayeux
David, you should give us the list of the 5 grottoes you're referring to, and let us make a game out of figuring out who is who! I've never been to any grotto meetings besides Houston, but just from knowing different people in each grotto, I bet I could guess @ least half correctly. We could play

Re: [PBSS] 5 Mouth

2010-02-24 Thread Jon Hancock
Looks like everyone is tired of digging.haha - Original Message - From: pbss-boun...@caver.net To: p...@caver.net ; Dirtmail Sent: Wed Feb 24 08:11:04 2010 Subject: [PBSS] 5 Mouth All, So far I have no one to go except me. Lori, no; ASU, no; Bill, maybe "no," haven't heard from anyone

[PBSS] 5 Mouth

2010-02-24 Thread J. LaRue Thomas
All, So far I have no one to go except me. Lori, no; ASU, no; Bill, maybe "no," haven't heard from anyone else. If I cancel I need to call Doc and Jeryl today. Looking like cancelling is the best idea. Jacqui ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net

RE: [Texascavers] grotto culture

2010-02-24 Thread Geary Schindel
David, It was nice to see you at the Bexar Grotto meeting on Monday. Nice description of the various grottos. I was wondering if the grotto that has a Knights of the Round Table setting speak in old English and did they call each other "Sir so and so" a lot. Geary -

Re: [Texascavers] snakes? (and other venomous critters)

2010-02-24 Thread Gill Edigar
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Rod Goke wrote: > One of the most unique techniques I ever witnessed was the way a certain > farmer and cave owner dealt with scorpions on his property in Florida > As we passed a fence post, he stopped, and with his bare hand, he calmly > picked a scorpion o

[Texascavers] grotto culture & no toes

2010-02-24 Thread Gill Edigar
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:46 PM, David wrote: > I have had the privilege to attend meetings of 5 different grottoes > in Texas, and 3 of which were in the last few months. > There seems to be subtle differences in the grottoes' meetings..., Way back in the late '60s there was a great discussio

RE: [Texascavers] Yes

2010-02-24 Thread Mark . Alman
And a damn fine one, at that! Mark From: Katherine Arens [mailto:k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Tue 2/23/2010 6:04 PM To: bandits...@aol.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Yes Hey, Minnow-- i'm just an old broad,

Re: Re: [Texascavers] snakes? (and other venomous critters)

2010-02-24 Thread tbsamsel
My maternal grandparents (Texas & Oklahoma rural) would scrape up all grass for about 5-6 feet around any place they lived in so the snakes wouldn't have a place to hide.   TFeb 24, 2010 06:51:01 AM, rod.g...@ieee.org wrote: Yes, Roger. Farmers and ranchers have had a long history of dealing with

[Texascavers] remove me from CaveTex

2010-02-24 Thread MMcart1061
Thanks, Charles, I have tried twice to get off the list..if this isn't the way, please send instructions. Minnow's multiple responses were enough to drive me over the edge. Are you going to the May 8 rock haul? Hope to see you there. Martha in Sandia Park.

Re: [Texascavers] snakes? (and other venomous critters)

2010-02-24 Thread Rod Goke
Yes, Roger. Farmers and ranchers have had a long history of dealing with venomous critters in their own novel ways. Apparently, they don't like being bitten or stung any more than anyone else would, and after a few unpleasant encounters, many of them don't like having venomous critters threatening

Re: Re: [Texascavers] Yes

2010-02-24 Thread tbsamsel
Is crawling in cold mud really comfortable? Is getting into weird contortions while scraping around on rocks comfy? I think not. There is a soupçon of masochism, I fear, in high-risk "sport". Adrenaline ain't from the comfy chair. (Not the comfy chair!).   And you mean "you" for "u"? Or "ewe" or