[Texascavers] a new LED headlamp

2010-04-21 Thread David
Here is a promising looking headlamp: http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/theshorelinemarket_2100_355542186 http://www.batteryjunction.com/fenix-hp15--headlamp.html That is the Fenix HP15. Fenix is also coming out with a brighter version that uses 4 AA batteries, called the HP10. http://w8

Re: [Texascavers] Spelunker or Caver?

2010-04-21 Thread wa5pok
After a few beers pick your favorite and say "it" ten times ... ~F~ > > I mainly dislike the word "spelunker" because it's cumbersome, hard to > say, and just sounds ugly compared to the word "caver." It wasn't > derogatory when I started cave in tin the early 90's, either -- that > seems to have

[Texascavers] speluncean

2010-04-21 Thread Mixon Bill
One of the less seen words derived from speleo, spelunk, etc. is speluncean. The OED says it is rare and quotes one instance from 1803. It is perhaps known best (if at all) for the famous article "The Case of the Speluncean Explorers" in the Harvard Law Review in 1949, a ficticious set of S

Re: [Texascavers] stalagtite ?

2010-04-21 Thread Bill Bentley
And I would say it was most sucessful in generating this multi year long debate... Bill - Original Message - From: "George Veni" To: "'Cavers Texas'" Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:42 AM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] stalagtite ? Actually, the prefix "speleo" is Greek, hence "spele

RE: [Texascavers] stalagtite ?

2010-04-21 Thread George Veni
Actually, the prefix "speleo" is Greek, hence "spelean," "speleology," "speleologist," etc. The Latin speakers converted it to "spelunk" in an obvious attempt to generate discord and debate among cavers. George -Original Message- From: Jon Cradit [mailto:jcra...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent:

texascavers Digest 21 Apr 2010 15:02:27 -0000 Issue 1034

2010-04-21 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 21 Apr 2010 15:02:27 - Issue 1034 Topics (messages 14535 through 14542): Re: Spelunker or Caver? 14535 by: Chris Vreeland 14536 by: Chris Vreeland 14541 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net 14542 by: Fritz Holt Virginia Cave Week begins public awarenes

RE: Re: [Texascavers] Spelunker or Caver?

2010-04-21 Thread Fritz Holt
I'm with Carl and Bill Russell on this one. While I like to attend caving activities and help with projects when possible, since 1953, I have always been and always will be a recreational "spelunker" and proud to be called as such. Is anyone in the fraternity besides me attending the Camp Eagle

Re: Re: [Texascavers] Spelunker or Caver?

2010-04-21 Thread tbsamsel
Whutabout... *speleophile*?Apr 21, 2010 07:09:13 AM, cvreel...@austin.rr.com wrote: Edited below: (more coffee, please) On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Chris Vreeland wrote: I mainly dislike the word "spelunker" because it's cumbersome, hard to say, and just sounds ugly compared to the word "caver

Re: [NMCAVER] Any lava caves near Fort Stanton?

2010-04-21 Thread Mike_Bilbo
David, we do have some small lava tubes you can visit while here - they are about 40-45 miles west in the Carrizozo Lava Flow near a vent called Little Black Peak. It's also BLM-managed public land. - Original Message - From: "David Caudle" [cav...@bellsouth.net] Sent: 04/21/2010 08:48

[NMCAVER] Any lava caves near Fort Stanton?

2010-04-21 Thread David Caudle
A small ! group of us are coming from TAG to help at Fort Stanton cave on May 1. We were wondering if we might get into a lava cave while in the vicinty? We'd travel 50 or so miles, or more if it is to the east on our way out or back. The only NM lava caves I'm aware of are in northwest New Me

[Texascavers] TSA Spring Meeting Minutes

2010-04-21 Thread Denise P
The minutes from the TSA spring meeting are available at: http://www.cavetexas.org/PDF/TSA/Minutes-2010-03-37.pdf Sorry it took so long. Cheers, Denise Prendergast TSA Secretary

RE: [Texascavers] stalagtite ?

2010-04-21 Thread Jon Cradit
Greek, Greek, Greek Why is it always about the Greek? You would think they invented spelunking or maybe wrote the book. And they STILL keep popping up, out of caves or would that be spelunks. Jon -Original Message- From: George Veni [mailto:gv...@warpdriveonline.com] Sent: Sunday, Apri

[Texascavers] OT - Spectacular Photos of the Volcano in Iceland

2010-04-21 Thread Mark . Alman
Kinda/sorta related to caving, but, some great photos, nonetheless, of that Icelandic volcano that is mucking up air travel over a good portion of Europe. Stunning photography and a prime example of the Earth's power. Enjoy! Mark http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/04/mor

[Texascavers] Virginia Cave Week begins public awareness initiative :

2010-04-21 Thread JerryAtkin
Virginia Cave Week initiative illuminates a world just below the surface By David A. Maurer Media General News Service Published: April 20, 2010 RICHMOND - Today marks the beginning of Virginia Cave Week. It’s designed to promote an understanding of the state’s caves and the surrounding

Re: [Texascavers] Spelunker or Caver?

2010-04-21 Thread Chris Vreeland
Edited below: (more coffee, please) On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Chris Vreeland wrote: I mainly dislike the word "spelunker" because it's cumbersome, hard to say, and just sounds ugly compared to the word "caver." It wasn't derogatory when I started cave in tin the early 90's, either -- that

Re: [Texascavers] Spelunker or Caver?

2010-04-21 Thread Chris Vreeland
I mainly dislike the word "spelunker" because it's cumbersome, hard to say, and just sounds ugly compared to the word "caver." It wasn't derogatory when I started cave in tin the early 90's, either -- that seems to have become a prevalent sentiment in just he last 190 years or so -- I just

texascavers Digest 21 Apr 2010 09:03:06 -0000 Issue 1033

2010-04-21 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 21 Apr 2010 09:03:06 - Issue 1033 Topics (messages 14521 through 14534): BOB = Big Old Battery 14521 by: Logan McNatt 14524 by: Chris Vreeland 14533 by: Rod Goke Re: East Texas Caver's Cookout 14522 by: David Memories of Cascade Caverns El

[Texascavers] We needs volunteer in May Cascada Cavern

2010-04-21 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Hey Friends We need your help! We need Volunteer in May to work in the electrical instalation In Cascade Cavern The owner invite a cavers to wants to help. "One night to camp for one of work in the cave" You can choose in the schedule already ( http://www.doodle.com/bah4t9d7r2657sw2) you can s

Re: [Texascavers] BOB = Big Old Battery

2010-04-21 Thread Rod Goke
Yes, but a battery that size could power all of David Locklear's lights at the same time, and with that many lights on the front of his helmet, it might actually balance a BOB on the back. Rod ;-) -Original Message- >From: Chris Vreeland >Sent: Apr 20, 2010 7:38 AM >To: lmcn...@austin.

Re: [Texascavers] Spelunker or Caver?

2010-04-21 Thread Rod Goke
Carl,The explanation I gave about why cavers don't like to be called spelunkers really was based on the version I heard when I began caving in Florida a little over 40 years ago. In keeping with folklore tradition, my telling of this story was admittedly updated and embellished a bit for the curren