Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Bob Booth
The Italian groups do. CNSAS http://www.soccorsospeleo.it/?area%20stampa+news+intervento-di-soccorso-grotta-dei-guardiani-27-28-marzo-20112 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dolopo/4799424019/ http://www.sicurezzaesoccorso.com/nuovi_aggiornamenti/16-06-10/CNSAS%20Umbria%201.jpg Bob On Thu, Sep 1, 2011

Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Bob Booth
The Italian groups do. CNSAS http://www.soccorsospeleo.it/?area%20stampa+news+intervento-di-soccorso-grotta-dei-guardiani-27-28-marzo-20112 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dolopo/4799424019/ http://www.sicurezzaesoccorso.com/nuovi_aggiornamenti/16-06-10/CNSAS%20Umbria%201.jpg Bob On Thu, Sep 1, 2011

Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Bob Booth
The Italian groups do. CNSAS http://www.soccorsospeleo.it/?area%20stampa+news+intervento-di-soccorso-grotta-dei-guardiani-27-28-marzo-20112 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dolopo/4799424019/ http://www.sicurezzaesoccorso.com/nuovi_aggiornamenti/16-06-10/CNSAS%20Umbria%201.jpg Bob On Thu, Sep 1, 2011

RE: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
Most of the ones in the UK do; the picture shows one of them. And they're not afraid to use them... When I was at university and a guy in our club fell down a pitch the Cave Rescue guys literally bounced their *brand new* Land Rover across the moors to get him. They'd had it delivered that morn

RE: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
Most of the ones in the UK do; the picture shows one of them. And they're not afraid to use them... When I was at university and a guy in our club fell down a pitch the Cave Rescue guys literally bounced their *brand new* Land Rover across the moors to get him. They'd had it delivered that morn

RE: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
Most of the ones in the UK do; the picture shows one of them. And they're not afraid to use them... When I was at university and a guy in our club fell down a pitch the Cave Rescue guys literally bounced their *brand new* Land Rover across the moors to get him. They'd had it delivered that morn

[Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread David
How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own rescue vehicle ? http://cavingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/cro3.jpg - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@tex

[Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread David
How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own rescue vehicle ? http://cavingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/cro3.jpg - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@tex

[Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread David
How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own rescue vehicle ? http://cavingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/cro3.jpg - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@tex

Re: FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread jociehooper
I liked the regular stew recipe best, but the others would do. Any of them can be cooked in a huge pot just as regular stew. I think the sauce should be cooked until thick enough to have it put on rice...so, no need for bowls. Jocie Stefan Creaser wrote: > Sorry y'all, I was away for th

Re: FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread jociehooper
I liked the regular stew recipe best, but the others would do. Any of them can be cooked in a huge pot just as regular stew. I think the sauce should be cooked until thick enough to have it put on rice...so, no need for bowls. Jocie Stefan Creaser wrote: > Sorry y'all, I was away for th

Re: FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread jociehooper
I liked the regular stew recipe best, but the others would do. Any of them can be cooked in a huge pot just as regular stew. I think the sauce should be cooked until thick enough to have it put on rice...so, no need for bowls. Jocie Stefan Creaser wrote: > Sorry y'all, I was away for th

Re: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Bill Bentley
Fritz, I was on that ledge in Sonora Caverns a few years back .. impressive... Bill - Original Message - From: "Fritz Holt" To: "'Pete Lindsley'" ; "Cavetex" ; "'Mandy Holt'" ; "'Jenny Holt'" ; "'Steve Ashmore'" ; ; "'Debra Batts'" Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:56 PM Su

Re: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Bill Bentley
Fritz, I was on that ledge in Sonora Caverns a few years back .. impressive... Bill - Original Message - From: "Fritz Holt" To: "'Pete Lindsley'" ; "Cavetex" ; "'Mandy Holt'" ; "'Jenny Holt'" ; "'Steve Ashmore'" ; ; "'Debra Batts'" Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:56 PM Su

Re: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Bill Bentley
Fritz, I was on that ledge in Sonora Caverns a few years back .. impressive... Bill - Original Message - From: "Fritz Holt" To: "'Pete Lindsley'" ; "Cavetex" ; "'Mandy Holt'" ; "'Jenny Holt'" ; "'Steve Ashmore'" ; ; "'Debra Batts'" Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:56 PM Su

[ot_caving] Seven Hundred New Laws.

2011-09-01 Thread Don Cooper
Lawmakers are doing what we pay them for - coming up with new laws. The agenda should change. We need to get rid of most laws, and evaluate how the remaining one's should be made reasonable and clear. We need more laws like we need more politicians and banks. -WaV!

[ot_caving] Seven Hundred New Laws.

2011-09-01 Thread Don Cooper
Lawmakers are doing what we pay them for - coming up with new laws. The agenda should change. We need to get rid of most laws, and evaluate how the remaining one's should be made reasonable and clear. We need more laws like we need more politicians and banks. -WaV!

[ot_caving] Seven Hundred New Laws.

2011-09-01 Thread Don Cooper
Lawmakers are doing what we pay them for - coming up with new laws. The agenda should change. We need to get rid of most laws, and evaluate how the remaining one's should be made reasonable and clear. We need more laws like we need more politicians and banks. -WaV!

RE: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
In the spring of 1956 while stationed at Fort Bliss in El Paso, three army buddies and I drove to Capitan, NM and obtained directions to Ft. Stanton Cave which was close by. We missed seeing Smokey and Snowy River but did travel quite far into the cave. We were the only ones on the unrestricted

RE: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
In the spring of 1956 while stationed at Fort Bliss in El Paso, three army buddies and I drove to Capitan, NM and obtained directions to Ft. Stanton Cave which was close by. We missed seeing Smokey and Snowy River but did travel quite far into the cave. We were the only ones on the unrestricted

RE: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
In the spring of 1956 while stationed at Fort Bliss in El Paso, three army buddies and I drove to Capitan, NM and obtained directions to Ft. Stanton Cave which was close by. We missed seeing Smokey and Snowy River but did travel quite far into the cave. We were the only ones on the unrestricted

[Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Pete Lindsley
Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River, after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave. Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C. Burch was al

[Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Pete Lindsley
Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River, after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave. Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C. Burch was al

[Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Pete Lindsley
Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River, after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave. Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C. Burch was al

FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
Sorry y'all, I was away for the (long) w/e and didn't get a chance to look at cooking stuff... Was talking to Terry at the Grotto mtg where he was prodding me about the main course, ie. meat, dishes. As noted, we will have access to pork and beef in large quantities so recipes with those as a

FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
Sorry y'all, I was away for the (long) w/e and didn't get a chance to look at cooking stuff... Was talking to Terry at the Grotto mtg where he was prodding me about the main course, ie. meat, dishes. As noted, we will have access to pork and beef in large quantities so recipes with those as a

FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
Sorry y'all, I was away for the (long) w/e and didn't get a chance to look at cooking stuff... Was talking to Terry at the Grotto mtg where he was prodding me about the main course, ie. meat, dishes. As noted, we will have access to pork and beef in large quantities so recipes with those as a

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
A social network is a place you can 'hang out' with your friends, a bit like someone's virtual campfire, and be bombarded by advertising keyed off what you type into the system. The sole reason they exist is to sell you stuff, even if you've never bought anything off of there. Ie. it's a bit of

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
A social network is a place you can 'hang out' with your friends, a bit like someone's virtual campfire, and be bombarded by advertising keyed off what you type into the system. The sole reason they exist is to sell you stuff, even if you've never bought anything off of there. Ie. it's a bit of

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
A social network is a place you can 'hang out' with your friends, a bit like someone's virtual campfire, and be bombarded by advertising keyed off what you type into the system. The sole reason they exist is to sell you stuff, even if you've never bought anything off of there. Ie. it's a bit of

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
There is a new category, "Chief Cook and Bottle Washer". -Original Message- From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:10 PM To: galen falgout; power_lou...@hotmail.com; Fritz Holt; her...@cavechat.org Cc: tbsam...@verizon.net; cavefa...@yaho

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
There is a new category, "Chief Cook and Bottle Washer". -Original Message- From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:10 PM To: galen falgout; power_lou...@hotmail.com; Fritz Holt; her...@cavechat.org Cc: tbsam...@verizon.net; cavefa...@yaho

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
There is a new category, "Chief Cook and Bottle Washer". -Original Message- From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:10 PM To: galen falgout; power_lou...@hotmail.com; Fritz Holt; her...@cavechat.org Cc: tbsam...@verizon.net; cavefa...@yaho

texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 19:15:44 -0000 Issue 1377

2011-09-01 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 19:15:44 - Issue 1377 Topics (messages 18436 through 18441): Re: new Texas law 18436 by: Louise Power 18437 by: wesley s 18438 by: Brian Riordan 18439 by: galen falgout 18440 by: Stefan Creaser 18441 by: Fritz Holt

texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 19:15:44 -0000 Issue 1377

2011-09-01 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 19:15:44 - Issue 1377 Topics (messages 18436 through 18441): Re: new Texas law 18436 by: Louise Power 18437 by: wesley s 18438 by: Brian Riordan 18439 by: galen falgout 18440 by: Stefan Creaser 18441 by: Fritz Holt

texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 19:15:44 -0000 Issue 1377

2011-09-01 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 19:15:44 - Issue 1377 Topics (messages 18436 through 18441): Re: new Texas law 18436 by: Louise Power 18437 by: wesley s 18438 by: Brian Riordan 18439 by: galen falgout 18440 by: Stefan Creaser 18441 by: Fritz Holt

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
Shucks! I think I know into which category I fall. By the way, what is a social network? Fritz From: wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:58 PM To: power_lou...@hotmail.com; Fritz Holt; her...@cavechat.org; stefan.crea...@

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
Shucks! I think I know into which category I fall. By the way, what is a social network? Fritz From: wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:58 PM To: power_lou...@hotmail.com; Fritz Holt; her...@cavechat.org; stefan.crea...@

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
Shucks! I think I know into which category I fall. By the way, what is a social network? Fritz From: wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:58 PM To: power_lou...@hotmail.com; Fritz Holt; her...@cavechat.org; stefan.crea...@

[SWR] Monthly Reminder: SWR 50th Anniversary, !!! IMPORTANT DATES !!

2011-09-01 Thread Stephen Fleming
Monthly reminder... SWR 50th Anniversary IMPORTANT DATES Please do not delay in making submissions. Your good efforts will result in a memorable event. Thank you. Nov 1, 2011, Submit t-shirt artwork to Wayne Walker, wcwal...@zianet.com Nov 1, 2011, Submit speaker suggestions to Stephen Fl

[SWR] Monthly Reminder: SWR 50th Anniversary, !!! IMPORTANT DATES !!

2011-09-01 Thread Stephen Fleming
Monthly reminder... SWR 50th Anniversary IMPORTANT DATES Please do not delay in making submissions. Your good efforts will result in a memorable event. Thank you. Nov 1, 2011, Submit t-shirt artwork to Wayne Walker, wcwal...@zianet.com Nov 1, 2011, Submit speaker suggestions to Stephen Fl

[SWR] Monthly Reminder: SWR 50th Anniversary, !!! IMPORTANT DATES !!

2011-09-01 Thread Stephen Fleming
Monthly reminder... SWR 50th Anniversary IMPORTANT DATES Please do not delay in making submissions. Your good efforts will result in a memorable event. Thank you. Nov 1, 2011, Submit t-shirt artwork to Wayne Walker, wcwal...@zianet.com Nov 1, 2011, Submit speaker suggestions to Stephen Fl

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
I'm not sure I am, but then am I a caver anymore? After what time period of you last being in a cave does your caver status expire? -Original Message- From: galen falgout [mailto:galenfalg...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:07 PM To: power_lou...@hotmail.com; fh...@townand

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
I'm not sure I am, but then am I a caver anymore? After what time period of you last being in a cave does your caver status expire? -Original Message- From: galen falgout [mailto:galenfalg...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:07 PM To: power_lou...@hotmail.com; fh...@townand

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
I'm not sure I am, but then am I a caver anymore? After what time period of you last being in a cave does your caver status expire? -Original Message- From: galen falgout [mailto:galenfalg...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:07 PM To: power_lou...@hotmail.com; fh...@townand

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread galen falgout
I think all the "real" cavers are too busy caving and doing cave related things! -Original Message- Date: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:24:27 pm To: "Fritz Holt" ,her...@cavechat.org,"Stefan Creaser" Cc: Ted Samsel , , David Locklear , Texas Cavers From: "Louise Power" Subject: RE: [T

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread galen falgout
I think all the "real" cavers are too busy caving and doing cave related things! -Original Message- List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:24:27 pm To: "Fritz Holt" ,her...@cavechat.org,"Stefan Creaser" Cc: Ted Samsel , , David Locklear , Texas Cavers

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread galen falgout
I think all the "real" cavers are too busy caving and doing cave related things! -Original Message- List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:24:27 pm To: "Fritz Holt" ,her...@cavechat.org,"Stefan Creaser" Cc: Ted Samsel , , David Locklear , Texas Cavers

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Brian Riordan
There is a third group Wes: those whose employers control access to everything but e-mail. But curiosity still contributes a little... On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:57 PM, wesley s wrote: > Yeah Fritz. Ya kinda missed the boat on that one. This list serve is > dead. The only folks who keep tuned in

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Brian Riordan
There is a third group Wes: those whose employers control access to everything but e-mail. But curiosity still contributes a little... On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:57 PM, wesley s wrote: > Yeah Fritz. Ya kinda missed the boat on that one. This list serve is > dead. The only folks who keep tuned in

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Brian Riordan
There is a third group Wes: those whose employers control access to everything but e-mail. But curiosity still contributes a little... On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:57 PM, wesley s wrote: > Yeah Fritz. Ya kinda missed the boat on that one. This list serve is > dead. The only folks who keep tuned in

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread wesley s
Yeah Fritz. Ya kinda missed the boat on that one. This list serve is dead. The only folks who keep tuned in are those unable to move onto the newer networks or those who maintain a curiosity/nostalgia about it. Wes~ From: power_lou...@hotmail.com To: fh...@townandcountryins.com; her...@ca

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread wesley s
Yeah Fritz. Ya kinda missed the boat on that one. This list serve is dead. The only folks who keep tuned in are those unable to move onto the newer networks or those who maintain a curiosity/nostalgia about it. Wes~ From: power_lou...@hotmail.com To: fh...@townandcountryins.com; her...@ca

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread wesley s
Yeah Fritz. Ya kinda missed the boat on that one. This list serve is dead. The only folks who keep tuned in are those unable to move onto the newer networks or those who maintain a curiosity/nostalgia about it. Wes~ From: power_lou...@hotmail.com To: fh...@townandcountryins.com; her...@ca

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Louise Power
I think all the "real" cavers have moved to the social networks. From: fh...@townandcountryins.com To: her...@cavechat.org; stefan.crea...@arm.com CC: tbsam...@verizon.net; cavefa...@yahoo.com; dlocklea...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0500 Subject: R

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Louise Power
I think all the "real" cavers have moved to the social networks. From: fh...@townandcountryins.com To: her...@cavechat.org; stefan.crea...@arm.com CC: tbsam...@verizon.net; cavefa...@yahoo.com; dlocklea...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Th

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Louise Power
I think all the "real" cavers have moved to the social networks. From: fh...@townandcountryins.com To: her...@cavechat.org; stefan.crea...@arm.com CC: tbsam...@verizon.net; cavefa...@yahoo.com; dlocklea...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Th

texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 16:42:42 -0000 Issue 1376

2011-09-01 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 16:42:42 - Issue 1376 Topics (messages 18424 through 18435): new Texas law 18424 by: David 18425 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net 18426 by: Jon 18427 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net 18429 by: Allan B. Cobb 18430 by: Fritz Holt

texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 16:42:42 -0000 Issue 1376

2011-09-01 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 16:42:42 - Issue 1376 Topics (messages 18424 through 18435): new Texas law 18424 by: David 18425 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net 18426 by: Jon 18427 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net 18429 by: Allan B. Cobb 18430 by: Fritz Holt

texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 16:42:42 -0000 Issue 1376

2011-09-01 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 1 Sep 2011 16:42:42 - Issue 1376 Topics (messages 18424 through 18435): new Texas law 18424 by: David 18425 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net 18426 by: Jon 18427 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net 18429 by: Allan B. Cobb 18430 by: Fritz Holt

RE: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
I enjoy most of this mindless chatter, even David's. But, if we don't switch it to OT the "real" cavers and the CaveTex police are going to get us. Spelunker Fritz From: Herman Miller [mailto:her...@cavechat.org] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:10 AM To: St

RE: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
I enjoy most of this mindless chatter, even David's. But, if we don't switch it to OT the "real" cavers and the CaveTex police are going to get us. Spelunker Fritz From: Herman Miller [mailto:her...@cavechat.org] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:10 AM To: St

RE: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
I enjoy most of this mindless chatter, even David's. But, if we don't switch it to OT the "real" cavers and the CaveTex police are going to get us. Spelunker Fritz From: Herman Miller [mailto:her...@cavechat.org] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:10 AM To: St

Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Snake Hunting**Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Correction-  The new "herp stamp" only applies to collecting along the public right-of-way.  Otherwise, you just need a regular ol' hunting license.   Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Thu, 9/1/11, Herman M

Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Snake Hunting**Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Correction-  The new "herp stamp" only applies to collecting along the public right-of-way.  Otherwise, you just need a regular ol' hunting license.   Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Thu, 9/1/11, Herman M

Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Snake Hunting**Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Correction-  The new "herp stamp" only applies to collecting along the public right-of-way.  Otherwise, you just need a regular ol' hunting license.   Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Thu, 9/1/11, Herman M

Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Herman Miller
Jumping on the redneck band wagon... You will now need a special hunting license to go snake hunting... On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Stefan Creaser wrote: > Keep it down at the back, it’s not Friday yet. > > ** ** > > -S. > > ** ** > > *From:* tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@ve

Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Herman Miller
Jumping on the redneck band wagon... You will now need a special hunting license to go snake hunting... On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Stefan Creaser wrote: > Keep it down at the back, it’s not Friday yet. > > ** ** > > -S. > > ** ** > > *From:* tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@ve

Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Herman Miller
Jumping on the redneck band wagon... You will now need a special hunting license to go snake hunting... On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Stefan Creaser wrote: > Keep it down at the back, it’s not Friday yet. > > ** ** > > -S. > > ** ** > > *From:* tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@ve

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
There's also a new law banning synthetic marijuana.  This means that any Locklear online, real or otherwise, is not as likely to seem funny.   Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Thu, 9/1/11, David wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
There's also a new law banning synthetic marijuana.  This means that any Locklear online, real or otherwise, is not as likely to seem funny.   Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Thu, 9/1/11, David wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
There's also a new law banning synthetic marijuana.  This means that any Locklear online, real or otherwise, is not as likely to seem funny.   Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Thu, 9/1/11, David wrote:

RE: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
Keep it down at the back, it’s not Friday yet. -S. From: tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:37 AM To: cavefa...@yahoo.com Cc: dlocklea...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law Not to mention: On

RE: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
Keep it down at the back, it’s not Friday yet. -S. From: tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:37 AM To: cavefa...@yahoo.com Cc: dlocklea...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law Not to mention: On

RE: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser
Keep it down at the back, it’s not Friday yet. -S. From: tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:37 AM To: cavefa...@yahoo.com Cc: dlocklea...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law Not to mention: On

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
Meaning you are not? -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 9:49 AM To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] new Texas law It is illegal now to impersonate somebody on-line. Meaning if you post on CaveTex pretending to be David Lo

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
Meaning you are not? -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 9:49 AM To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] new Texas law It is illegal now to impersonate somebody on-line. Meaning if you post on CaveTex pretending to be David Lo

RE: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt
Meaning you are not? -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 9:49 AM To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] new Texas law It is illegal now to impersonate somebody on-line. Meaning if you post on CaveTex pretending to be David Lo

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Allan B. Cobb
Would it only be half illegal to impersonate someone online who noodles catfish? Can you noodle catfish from a helicopter? Can you noodle feral hogs and coyotes? So, if I get into the deep artesian zone of the Edwards Aquifer, can I noodle the blind catfish? (just to make this cave related)

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Allan B. Cobb
Would it only be half illegal to impersonate someone online who noodles catfish? Can you noodle catfish from a helicopter? Can you noodle feral hogs and coyotes? So, if I get into the deep artesian zone of the Edwards Aquifer, can I noodle the blind catfish? (just to make this cave related)

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Allan B. Cobb
Would it only be half illegal to impersonate someone online who noodles catfish? Can you noodle catfish from a helicopter? Can you noodle feral hogs and coyotes? So, if I get into the deep artesian zone of the Edwards Aquifer, can I noodle the blind catfish? (just to make this cave related)

[Texascavers] FW: The 16th International Congress of Speleology

2011-09-01 Thread George Veni
If you haven’t received the message below directly and are interested in being on the e-list for the 16th International Congress of Speleology, contact them at the address below. Planning for that ICS is in full swing. I visited the congress site in April and it is superb. On a tight budget? Campin

[Texascavers] FW: The 16th International Congress of Speleology

2011-09-01 Thread George Veni
If you haven’t received the message below directly and are interested in being on the e-list for the 16th International Congress of Speleology, contact them at the address below. Planning for that ICS is in full swing. I visited the congress site in April and it is superb. On a tight budget? Campin

[Texascavers] FW: The 16th International Congress of Speleology

2011-09-01 Thread George Veni
If you haven’t received the message below directly and are interested in being on the e-list for the 16th International Congress of Speleology, contact them at the address below. Planning for that ICS is in full swing. I visited the congress site in April and it is superb. On a tight budget? Campin

Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread tbsamsel
Not to mention:   On Thursday, the first day of the state’s fiscal year, Texans will be able to shoot feral hogs and coyotes from helicopters.   Wheedoggies! Sep 1, 2011 10:35:37 AM, cavefa...@yahoo.com wrote: However, it is now LAWFUL to fish for catfish by HAND. And I mean BY HAND! Our Gover

Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread tbsamsel
Not to mention:   On Thursday, the first day of the state’s fiscal year, Texans will be able to shoot feral hogs and coyotes from helicopters.   Wheedoggies! Sep 1, 2011 10:35:37 AM, cavefa...@yahoo.com wrote: However, it is now LAWFUL to fish for catfish by HAND. And I mean BY HAND! Our Gover

Re: Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread tbsamsel
Not to mention:   On Thursday, the first day of the state’s fiscal year, Texans will be able to shoot feral hogs and coyotes from helicopters.   Wheedoggies! Sep 1, 2011 10:35:37 AM, cavefa...@yahoo.com wrote: However, it is now LAWFUL to fish for catfish by HAND. And I mean BY HAND! Our Gover

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Jon
However, it is now LAWFUL to fish for catfish by HAND. And I mean BY HAND! Our Governor pushed through legislation to make fish noodling legal in Texas. Thank goodness we have a Governor that cares about our wants and needs.   From: David To: Cavers Texas Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 9:49 A

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Jon
However, it is now LAWFUL to fish for catfish by HAND. And I mean BY HAND! Our Governor pushed through legislation to make fish noodling legal in Texas. Thank goodness we have a Governor that cares about our wants and needs.   From: David To: Cavers Texas Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 9:49 A

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Jon
However, it is now LAWFUL to fish for catfish by HAND. And I mean BY HAND! Our Governor pushed through legislation to make fish noodling legal in Texas. Thank goodness we have a Governor that cares about our wants and needs.   From: David To: Cavers Texas Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 9:49 A

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread tbsamsel
Back in the halcyon days of USENET groups, there was a personage called "theDavid" (a minor but persistent Usenet troll of long standing )   He may have lawyers.  CYA   TSep 1, 2011 09:50:09 AM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: It is illegal now to impersonate somebody on-line.Meaning if you post on

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread tbsamsel
Back in the halcyon days of USENET groups, there was a personage called "theDavid" (a minor but persistent Usenet troll of long standing )   He may have lawyers.  CYA   TSep 1, 2011 09:50:09 AM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: It is illegal now to impersonate somebody on-line.Meaning if you post on

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread tbsamsel
Back in the halcyon days of USENET groups, there was a personage called "theDavid" (a minor but persistent Usenet troll of long standing )   He may have lawyers.  CYA   TSep 1, 2011 09:50:09 AM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: It is illegal now to impersonate somebody on-line.Meaning if you post on

[Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread David
It is illegal now to impersonate somebody on-line. Meaning if you post on CaveTex pretending to be David Locklear, you better be damned funny. David ( the real David, not the one from the future ) - Visit our website: http://tex

[Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread David
It is illegal now to impersonate somebody on-line. Meaning if you post on CaveTex pretending to be David Locklear, you better be damned funny. David ( the real David, not the one from the future ) - Visit our website: http://tex

[Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread David
It is illegal now to impersonate somebody on-line. Meaning if you post on CaveTex pretending to be David Locklear, you better be damned funny. David ( the real David, not the one from the future ) - Visit our website: http://tex