TCR Registration Prices:
Adult - $25.00
Child - $15.00
Family - $80.00
Old timer - $15.00
Registration gets you a wristband, meal, beverages and a chance at door prizes.
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What constitutes an Old Timer qualification?
On 9/12/2014 11:29 AM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers wrote:
TCR Registration Prices:
Adult - $25.00
Child - $15.00
Family - $80.00
Old timer - $15.00
Registration gets you a wristband, meal, beverages and a chance at door prizes.
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That means you’re old enough to know better than to attend, Bill ;-)
-Stefan
stefan.crea...@arm.commailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com
From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of
Bill Bentley via Texascavers
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:50 AM
To:
I vote for 65 years of age and up.
Bill
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C. William Bill Steele
cell 214-770-4712
cwilliamste...@gmail.com
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On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Bill Bentley via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
What constitutes an Old Timer
Wouldn't old-timer-ness be more of a function of how long someone's been caving
than of age?
Jacqui Thomas
jlrtho...@verizon.net
On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers wrote:
That means you’re old enough to know better than to attend, Bill ;-)
-Stefan
So,
Are you signed up for the Distinguished Lecture or the Texas Hydro Geo Workshop.
Geary
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From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of
Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:41 PM
To:
It¹s not the age, but the mileage we should acknowledge in TCR ³Old Timer²
pricing. I suggest the criteria should be:
³Anyone who pushed low, tight water crawls prior to 1968²
-Frank
Frank Binney
Frank Binney Associates
Interpretive Planning and Media Development
P.O. Box 258
Woodacre, CA 94973
Sorry, the previous message was intended for Jacqui.
Geary
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From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of
Geary Schindel via Texascavers
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:42 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers]
Maybe an old timer is someone that attended the first TOTR or at least had the
choice to attend?
From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of
Bill Bentley via Texascavers
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:50 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re:
Racccoon is only two.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:06 PM, C. William Steele via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
I vote for 65 years of age and up.
Bill
Sent from my iPhone
C. William Bill Steele
cell 214-770-4712
cwilliamste...@gmail.com
www.worldexplorersbureau.com
On
I was on the registration sheet at Luckenbach but no one saw me cause I was
in the bar with Hondo and Strickland.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jon Cradit via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
Maybe an old timer is someone that attended the first TOTR or at least
had the
I disagree that age should be a factor.
A person must show proof they are an Old-timer to receive this sacred title.
Here are examples of proof,
1 ). NSS # issued before 1970.
2 ). A certificate of caving merit issued before 1975, or a photo or major
article in a respected caving publication,
David,
Maybe you're not an old-enough timer to remember this, but the major
connections in Oaxaca didn't begin until 1980. That's when Li Nita
was connected to Sotano de San Agustin, making Sistema Huautla the
deepest cave in the Western Hemisphere. Several more connections in
Huautla
It appears that Ellie will have to build a matrix to rank and rate all of the
variables to determine this.
On Friday, September 12, 2014 12:55 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
I was on the registration sheet at Luckenbach but no one saw me cause I
alternate suggestion: instant visual identification procedure == ATTENTION,
OLD FART ON DECK
On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Bill Bentley via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
Forget I asked
On Sep 12, 2014 1:13 PM, Jon via Texascavers
Ellie, I'm sure you didn't foresee the barrage of emails that Old timer was
going to cause.
Obviously, every Old timer is suggesting criteria that will make sure they
qualify.
One simple solution is to change the Old timer registration to $30, and see
how many still insist they qualify!
(Ha)
Once before, I think the definition was something like had been a
Texas caver before 1970. I caved in Texas in 1964, but that doesn't
count, because I was just visiting for the 1964 NSS convention, when
we got to cave in Indian Creek Cave and Devil's Sinkhole, neither of
which has been
Ellie is only the messenger, I make the TCR rules. Be nice to her or oldtimers
will pay geriatric fees.
--Don
On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
Ellie, I'm sure you didn't foresee the barrage of emails that Old timer was
going
All,
For registration purposes this year,
Child is classified as 12 years of age and under
Old Timer is people who were caving before TCR started in 1978
I know there will be questions and complaints and we will deal with
them as they arise.
Ellie
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Don Arburn
Oldtimers will have to show their Depends at the registration booth.
--Don
On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
All,
For registration purposes this year,
Child is classified as 12 years of age and under
Old Timer is people who
Lol
On Sep 12, 2014 1:49 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
Oldtimers will have to show their Depends at the registration booth.
--Don
On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
All,
For
1) Glad I'm not going to be at the registration booth
2) Someone had better give the registrators (?) good glasses
;-)
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From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Don
Arburn via Texascavers
Oldtimers will have to show their Depends at
So to answer the question, what is the price of registration for Old Timers,
the answer is Depends...
George Veni
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From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Don
Arburn via Texascavers
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:49 PM
To:
Right, State ownership provides management and access for science versus the
likelihood of zero access if it remained in private hands. Back it up or pack
it up, Bill.
Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
700 Billie Brooks Drive
Driftwood, Texas 78619
(512) 799-1095
a...@gluesenkamp.com
On Friday,
All old timers look like Old Man Wisdom or the late Squire Lewis, all other
are frauds.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
Once before, I think the definition was something like had been a Texas
caver before 1970. I caved in Texas in
Only Fritz Holt is qualified.
--
Lyndon Tiu
On Sep 12, 2014 2:33 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
All old timers look like Old Man Wisdom or the late Squire Lewis, all
other are frauds.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers
Please contact Don Arburn off list please. Thank you!
d...@oztotl.com
--Don
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I want to be a general.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Jon via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
It appears that Ellie will have to build a matrix to rank and rate all
of the variables to determine this.
On Friday, September 12, 2014 12:55 PM, Charles Loving via
Well crap. I don't qualify.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:59 PM, David via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
I disagree that age should be a factor.
A person must show proof they are an Old-timer to receive this sacred
title.
Here are examples of proof,
1 ). NSS # issued
Thanks to Don and all the many volunteers, TCR continues to be the best
deal of any event I¹ve ever paid to attend.
Although I started caving in 1962 I¹m looking forward to proudly paying
full price.
-Frank
On 9/12/14, 11:44 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
Ellie
While Gluesenkamp won't remember it, Devil's Sinkhole did just fine
without management, which always seems to mean managing cavers. And
access was open even to scientists, although that cuts no mustard with
me. Scientists are not a privileged class of people, and their claim
to a resource
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