[Texascavers] TCR Registration Prices

2014-09-12 Thread Ellie Watson via Texascavers
TCR Registration Prices: Adult - $25.00 Child - $15.00 Family - $80.00 Old timer - $15.00 Registration gets you a wristband, meal, beverages and a chance at door prizes. Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/events/529777467143718/ ___ Texascavers

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2014-09-12 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
What constitutes an Old Timer qualification? On 9/12/2014 11:29 AM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers wrote: TCR Registration Prices: Adult - $25.00 Child - $15.00 Family - $80.00 Old timer - $15.00 Registration gets you a wristband, meal, beverages and a chance at door prizes. Facebook Page:

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2014-09-12 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
That means you’re old enough to know better than to attend, Bill ;-) -Stefan stefan.crea...@arm.commailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bentley via Texascavers Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:50 AM To:

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2014-09-12 Thread C. William Steele via Texascavers
I vote for 65 years of age and up. Bill Sent from my iPhone C. William Bill Steele cell 214-770-4712 cwilliamste...@gmail.com www.worldexplorersbureau.com On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Bill Bentley via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: What constitutes an Old Timer

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2014-09-12 Thread Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers
Wouldn't old-timer-ness be more of a function of how long someone's been caving than of age? Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers wrote: That means you’re old enough to know better than to attend, Bill ;-) -Stefan

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2014-09-12 Thread Geary Schindel via Texascavers
So, Are you signed up for the Distinguished Lecture or the Texas Hydro Geo Workshop. Geary -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:41 PM To:

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2014-09-12 Thread Frank Binney via Texascavers
It¹s not the age, but the mileage we should acknowledge in TCR ³Old Timer² pricing. I suggest the criteria should be: ³Anyone who pushed low, tight water crawls prior to 1968² -Frank Frank Binney Frank Binney Associates Interpretive Planning and Media Development P.O. Box 258 Woodacre, CA 94973

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2014-09-12 Thread Geary Schindel via Texascavers
Sorry, the previous message was intended for Jacqui. Geary -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Geary Schindel via Texascavers Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:42 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers]

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2014-09-12 Thread Jon Cradit via Texascavers
Maybe an old timer is someone that attended the first TOTR or at least had the choice to attend? From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bentley via Texascavers Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:50 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re:

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2014-09-12 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Racccoon is only two. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:06 PM, C. William Steele via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I vote for 65 years of age and up. Bill Sent from my iPhone C. William Bill Steele cell 214-770-4712 cwilliamste...@gmail.com www.worldexplorersbureau.com On

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2014-09-12 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
I was on the registration sheet at Luckenbach but no one saw me cause I was in the bar with Hondo and Strickland. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jon Cradit via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Maybe an old timer is someone that attended the first TOTR or at least had the

[Texascavers] Definition of Old-timer

2014-09-12 Thread David via Texascavers
I disagree that age should be a factor. A person must show proof they are an Old-timer to receive this sacred title. Here are examples of proof, 1 ). NSS # issued before 1970. 2 ). A certificate of caving merit issued before 1975, or a photo or major article in a respected caving publication,

Re: [Texascavers] Definition of Old-timer

2014-09-12 Thread Mark Minton via Texascavers
David, Maybe you're not an old-enough timer to remember this, but the major connections in Oaxaca didn't begin until 1980. That's when Li Nita was connected to Sotano de San Agustin, making Sistema Huautla the deepest cave in the Western Hemisphere. Several more connections in Huautla

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2014-09-12 Thread Jon via Texascavers
It appears that Ellie will have to build a matrix to rank and rate all of the variables to determine this. On Friday, September 12, 2014 12:55 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I was on the registration sheet at Luckenbach but no one saw me cause I

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2014-09-12 Thread Katherine Arens via Texascavers
alternate suggestion: instant visual identification procedure == ATTENTION, OLD FART ON DECK On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Bill Bentley via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Forget I asked On Sep 12, 2014 1:13 PM, Jon via Texascavers

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2014-09-12 Thread Logan McNatt via Texascavers
Ellie, I'm sure you didn't foresee the barrage of emails that Old timer was going to cause. Obviously, every Old timer is suggesting criteria that will make sure they qualify. One simple solution is to change the Old timer registration to $30, and see how many still insist they qualify! (Ha)

[Texascavers] old-timer definition

2014-09-12 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
Once before, I think the definition was something like had been a Texas caver before 1970. I caved in Texas in 1964, but that doesn't count, because I was just visiting for the 1964 NSS convention, when we got to cave in Indian Creek Cave and Devil's Sinkhole, neither of which has been

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2014-09-12 Thread Don Arburn via Texascavers
Ellie is only the messenger, I make the TCR rules. Be nice to her or oldtimers will pay geriatric fees. --Don On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Ellie, I'm sure you didn't foresee the barrage of emails that Old timer was going

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2014-09-12 Thread Ellie Watson via Texascavers
All, For registration purposes this year, Child is classified as 12 years of age and under Old Timer is people who were caving before TCR started in 1978 I know there will be questions and complaints and we will deal with them as they arise. Ellie On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Don Arburn

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2014-09-12 Thread Don Arburn via Texascavers
Oldtimers will have to show their Depends at the registration booth. --Don On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: All, For registration purposes this year, Child is classified as 12 years of age and under Old Timer is people who

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2014-09-12 Thread gary Dunham via Texascavers
Lol On Sep 12, 2014 1:49 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Oldtimers will have to show their Depends at the registration booth. --Don On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: All, For

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2014-09-12 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
1) Glad I'm not going to be at the registration booth 2) Someone had better give the registrators (?) good glasses ;-) -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Don Arburn via Texascavers Oldtimers will have to show their Depends at

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2014-09-12 Thread George Veni via Texascavers
So to answer the question, what is the price of registration for Old Timers, the answer is Depends... George Veni -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Don Arburn via Texascavers Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:49 PM To:

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2014-09-12 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp via Texascavers
Right, State ownership provides management and access for science versus the likelihood of zero access if it remained in private hands. Back it up or pack it up, Bill. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com On Friday,

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2014-09-12 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
All old timers look like Old Man Wisdom or the late Squire Lewis, all other are frauds. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Once before, I think the definition was something like had been a Texas caver before 1970. I caved in Texas in

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2014-09-12 Thread Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers
Only Fritz Holt is qualified. -- Lyndon Tiu On Sep 12, 2014 2:33 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: All old timers look like Old Man Wisdom or the late Squire Lewis, all other are frauds. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers

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2014-09-12 Thread Don Arburn via Texascavers
Please contact Don Arburn off list please. Thank you! d...@oztotl.com --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/

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2014-09-12 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
I want to be a general. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Jon via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: It appears that Ellie will have to build a matrix to rank and rate all of the variables to determine this. On Friday, September 12, 2014 12:55 PM, Charles Loving via

Re: [Texascavers] Definition of Old-timer

2014-09-12 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Well crap. I don't qualify. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:59 PM, David via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I disagree that age should be a factor. A person must show proof they are an Old-timer to receive this sacred title. Here are examples of proof, 1 ). NSS # issued

[Texascavers] TCR: A bargain at any price!

2014-09-12 Thread Frank Binney via Texascavers
Thanks to Don and all the many volunteers, TCR continues to be the best deal of any event I¹ve ever paid to attend. Although I started caving in 1962 I¹m looking forward to proudly paying full price. -Frank On 9/12/14, 11:44 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Ellie

[Texascavers] Devil's Sinkhole R.I.P.

2014-09-12 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
While Gluesenkamp won't remember it, Devil's Sinkhole did just fine without management, which always seems to mean managing cavers. And access was open even to scientists, although that cuts no mustard with me. Scientists are not a privileged class of people, and their claim to a resource