Re: [Texascavers] historic posting

2015-10-14 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
Surely the most appropriate place would be the "Texas Caver", they're always wanting stuff... -Stefan -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Jerryatkin via Texascavers Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:13 AM To:

Re: [Texascavers] historic posting

2015-10-14 Thread Greg Passmore via Texascavers
Many years ago I made 25 copies of a bunch of cave maps from my files and sold them to fellow cavers for exactly my copying costs (100 pages for $5). For this I got yelled at for years, was given an award for the worst behaving caver, and I was accused of copyright violations. All that over a

Re: [Texascavers] historic posting

2015-10-14 Thread Karen Perry via Texascavers
Granted I am not caving any more but this overly secret concept of hiding cave locations in the caver community has never made sense to me. I think you should share your  files. They are a part of caver history and need to become a part of the record for future generations. Too much has already

Re: [Texascavers] historic posting

2015-10-14 Thread Jim Kennedy via Texascavers
If you are on Facebook, another good place is the Texas Speleological Survey page. You can even start your own photo album there. Jim Kennedy TSS office manager Mobile email from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Jerryatkin via Texascavers > wrote: > >

Re: [Texascavers] historic posting

2015-10-14 Thread Karen Perry via Texascavers
I did state caver meaning within the cave community and not general public. As we all know TSS files are open with proper paper work and request. Landowner rights should be protected yes. But so should caver rights. This has always been a touchy subject and most likely will be for years to

Re: [Texascavers] historic posting

2015-10-14 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
I believe the root of this behavior is to ultimately protect the rights of the private landowners, which typically do not wish to have the locations of caves on their property become public knowledge. Say what you will about other reasons that you think/believe/know are the causes of the

Re: [Texascavers] historic posting

2015-10-14 Thread Ron Ralph via Texascavers
Gregg, Regardless of posting, the Texas Speleological Survey would appreciate your gifting any and all historic materials to us. And that goes for every caver out there who has cave memorabilia suitable for our museum or records for our permanent files. Please go online to find contact

Re: [Texascavers] PESH 2015 Expedition (Sistema Huautla

2015-10-14 Thread Alex Sproul via Texascavers
>This came out yesterday. It's Steve Eginorie's blog about his participation in >this year's expedition. He was there at the beginning. Wow, Bill! Helluva a photo essay! The blog is good, too... How come we haven't seen Stephen in the NSS Photo Salon? Get him in there, please! Alex

Re: [Texascavers] historic posting

2015-10-14 Thread Greg Passmore via Texascavers
I do not (and have not) released locations. Just maps, descriptions, articles and photos. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/

[Texascavers] TCR food and the like...

2015-10-14 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
Hi All, Don't forget your cups, plates, bowls and cutlery for the big feed on Saturday! This year's food theme (don't be scared) is Mexican; we haven't done that since I started this in 2006. If you are so inclined we could do with some help on Friday and Saturday with prep work; we can bribe

Re: [Texascavers] historic posting

2015-10-14 Thread George Veni via Texascavers
That publication was the first book in my caving library. It was a huge help to my and other young cavers' early caving at the time when help was not forthcoming from some of the cavers who complained about it. I still own two copies. Many things have changed since then. TSS is a great place

[Texascavers] historic posting

2015-10-14 Thread Greg Passmore via Texascavers
I have bunch of historic caving articles, photos, etc. Is this list an appropriate place to post these or should we start up a texas caving history list? ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives:

Re: [Texascavers] historic posting

2015-10-14 Thread Jerryatkin via Texascavers
Sure, why not. Be interesting to see what you have. Jerry. jerryat...@aol.com Sent from my iPad > On Oct 14, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Greg Passmore via Texascavers > wrote: > > I have bunch of historic caving articles, photos, etc. Is this list an > appropriate place