To speak of eugenics as though it is the ultimate evil is guilt by association. Just because a deranged evil Nazi perverted and misunderstood a basic biological concept doesn't make that concept bad.
Every person who makes a thoughtful decision as to with whom they will have offspring, and how many offspring they will have, is practicing eugenics. The entire history of civilization is the result of selective breeding for intelligence by what came to be known as the "upper" classes. Without them, and the material progress that they built on the backs of others, we would all still be living in mud huts while engaged in perpetual warfare with our immediate neighbors. The world is finite. There is only so much space and only so many resources. We can take the suicidal route and continue to breed, or we can purposefully limit our numbers. We can limit our numbers by one of two methods. We can take the "natural route" by allowing starvation, pestilence and warfare do the good work, or we can make intelligent decisions as to who will be born. Regardless of what "woke" academics would have us believe, it is a fact that human intelligence is to an overwhelming degree a genetically conferred trait. You can lower a person's intelligence through privation, but you cannot improve a person's intelligence through education or by any other such means. Would it be intelligent to select the stupidest among us to serve as breeders? By allowing nature to take its course that is exactly what we are doing. The bottom line is that Malthus was right! Sleaze From: Texascavers <texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com> On Behalf Of Diana Tomchick Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 2:58 PM To: DONALD G. DAVIS <dgda...@nyx.net>; Robert Wood <robwood...@gmail.com> Cc: Steve Peerman <gypca...@comcast.net>; Cave Texas <Texascavers@texascavers.com>; SWR Cavers Group <swrcav...@googlegroups.com>; Debbie Buecher <dbuec...@comcast.net>; Diana Eleanor Northup <dnort...@unm.edu>; Penelope Boston <penelope.j.bos...@nasa.gov>; Lee Skinner <skin...@thuntek.net> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] For vampire bats, social distancing while sick comes naturally Except...broken bones are a good example of something that temporarily weakens an individual but has no genetic link and wouldn't affect evolution or the genes of offspring. I believe that most anthropologists correlate the signs of broken but healed bones in human remains found in burials with a higher level of communal living (i.e., a properly functioning society where people take care of the less fortunate). If it weren't for society, we wouldn't have science and research, and we wouldn't know anything about genetic diseases, evolution, and new methods to repair genetic diseases (e.g., CRISPR). Science isn't all good or all bad, it's how it's used by society that's important. Beware statements like "humans perpetuate weaknesses in their population through science" lest people start thinking this sounds like eugenics. Diana ************************************************** Diana R. Tomchick Professor Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry UT Southwestern Medical Center 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214A Dallas, TX 75390-8816 diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu <mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu> (214) 645-6383 (phone) (214) 645-6353 (fax) _____ From: swrcav...@googlegroups.com <mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com> <swrcav...@googlegroups.com <mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of DONALD G. DAVIS <dgda...@nyx.net <mailto:dgda...@nyx.net> > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 1:28 PM To: Robert Wood <robwood...@gmail.com <mailto:robwood...@gmail.com> > Cc: Steve Peerman <gypca...@comcast.net <mailto:gypca...@comcast.net> >; Lee Skinner <skin...@thuntek.net <mailto:skin...@thuntek.net> >; SWR Cavers Group <swrcav...@googlegroups.com <mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com> >; Cave Texas <Texascavers@texascavers.com <mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> >; Debbie Buecher <dbuec...@comcast.net <mailto:dbuec...@comcast.net> >; Diana Eleanor Northup <dnort...@unm.edu <mailto:dnort...@unm.edu> >; Penelope Boston <penelope.j.bos...@nasa.gov <mailto:penelope.j.bos...@nasa.gov> > Subject: Re: [SWR CAVERS] For vampire bats, social distancing while sick comes naturally EXTERNAL MAIL On Wed, 28 Oct 2020, Robert Wood wrote: > Yep. In healthy animal populations the sick are actually abandoned and left= > to die as their genetic weakness, if perpetuated, weakens the entire popul= > ation. This is how evolution or natural selection works. It is the law of n= > ature. Humans perpetuate weaknesses in their population through science.=20 > > Rob That's the problem I've long seen with vaccination in general. In the short term, it's a life-saver. In the long term, it negates natural selection for genetic disease resistance. Which would we be wise to have? --Donald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/alpine.DEB.2.20.2010291223370.11 98%40nyx2.nyx.net. CAUTION: This email originated from outside UTSW. 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