A really interesting, descriptive, and well written trip report. Great for us 
temporary shut-ins!

Mark

From: Marvin Miller 
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2022 5:34 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Dinosaur Cave

Good name. We will keep it!

On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 1:29 PM Kurt Menking <kurt.menk...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Flaco in Spanish is skinny.  Team skinny

  On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 12:06 PM Marvin Miller <cave0mil...@gmail.com> wrote:

    team flaco? I don't get the reference.

    On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 8:15 AM Kurt Menking <kurt.menk...@gmail.com> wrote:

      Great trip.  Congrats to team flaco.

      On Sat, Jun 4, 2022, 9:14 PM Marvin Miller <cave0mil...@gmail.com> wrote:

        Kelsey Dennis and Mio Kitano joined me today to finish up a little bit 
of muddy survey and to push leads in Dinosaur Cave. Dinosaur Cave is a 642 
meter-long cave in Comal County. The survey went about 2 meters down a hole 
that had been too tight for the previous survey team. Both Kelsey and Mio have 
slight figures ideal for these kinds of leads. The next survey shot was 3 
meters through a muddy trough into a small terminal room with some drops 
falling from the ceiling. The drops had been a trickle when I had first seen 
this room last year. The room isn't really terminal because there is a slot in 
the floor that could be enlarged to get down to the next little space 2 meters 
below but then there is another, tighter constriction. There is no airflow so 
this is not a high priority lead.  

        We struggled out of these muddy confines and headed back towards the 
entrance till we stopped at a hole that dropped down in the middle of the 
passage. This hole leads to a bit of walking passage in the breakdown that 
makes up the floor and fills the lower part of the main passage. 10 meters 
along the breakdown passage a small hole in the floor drops down into a small 
room, the floor of which slopes further down to the opening of a small, 
horizontal tube in bedrock. The tube is straight and clean-washed and can be 
seen to extend at least 5 meters. The tube is intimidating (to me, at least) 
because it looks barely larger than body-sized. Once you get into it there is 
actually a little more space than that, and only one spot where you are 
scraping floor and ceiling. At about the 5-meter mark you encounter a 
cross-joint which provides some relief, and immediately after that the floor 
drops down into a fissure and then the passage widens, opens up to the right, 
and drops over a ledge into a small room. Bennett Lee pushed this passage and 
discovered this room. A small trickle of water falls from a too-small tube in 
one wall. At floor level a duck under the ceiling leads to a short 5-meter 
section of passage, at the end of which was today's objective. At that point 
the floor trends slightly down and the ceiling comes down to within 20 cm of 
the floor, which is clean-washed from that point. I had tried to cram myself 
into this lead when Bennett, Greg Mosier, and I surveyed the preceding passage 
but it was a no-go. I couldn't even get far enough to see around the near 
corner. Kelsey is a skinny girl and had no problem with it. There is a pool in 
the floor just after it gets tight so she had to consider whether she wanted to 
get wet, but in the end she committed to it and soon disappeared around the 
corner. She kept a running commentary and informed us that just ahead it was 
going to open up to walking - or at least stoop-walking height. She was soon 
there and continued, sometimes in several cm of water. There was another short 
constriction to be passed and then the passage dimensions resumed. She had to 
stop, probably about 20 to 25 meters along, due to a boulder that was filling 
the passage. She could see the passage continuing past the boulder. Her 
assessment was that it could probably be broken up with a sledge or rolled out 
of the way. There is good airflow coming out of this passage, really the only 
airflow we have seen anywhere in Dinosaur Cave. 

        When Kelsey came back out, excited by her discovery, we set to work on 
the other passage that exits here, stacked almost right on top of the water 
crawl below. The problem with this one was that it was almost filled with a 2 
meter-long, 1 meter-wide slab of breakdown. It wasn't very thick so we had some 
hope that we could break it up somehow. We took turns beating on the near end, 
and some bits broke off easily, but then it got hard. I decided it was time to 
employ the hammer drill and straws. I had barely drilled 4 cm into the rock 
when my bit got stuck and would not move. The only way to rescue it was to beat 
on the rock some more. I started in on that and suddenly the rock broke across 
its width about half-a-meter back. This large chunk fell to the ground in front 
of the lower passage, and the remainder of the slab started to slide down what 
must have been a slight slope towards us! Fortunately, it stopped moving after 
10 or 15 cm. We then had a discussion that if a survey team was going to come 
back and attack the lower passage, the slab would first need to be eliminated. 
We continued pounding on it - with some care to have an escape route - and 
eventually were able to lever it and chock it in a more stable situation. What 
all of that ended up doing for us was open up space over the top of the slab to 
crawl across and see what lay beyond. A quick look showed that the passage took 
a sharp right turn and followed the trend of the lower passage. Mio ventured in 
and I noticed that I could see a reflection of her light on the pool in the 
lower passage. There were holes in the floor. In fact, she remarked that the 
floor was not stable and there was a danger of falling through. Several rocks 
were dislodged and fell into the lower passage. About 4 meters in, the passage 
was blocked by flowstone, but she could see around it into a larger space. It 
is almost certainly the same passage that Kelsey traversed. This is a possible 
bypass to the lower level constriction. 

        The new discovery is at the lowest point of the cave and the air was 
not very good. We will wait until winter to organize further survey trips. We 
left the cave happy, muddy, and tired.

        Marvin Miller
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