Thank you, Jim and Mimi. The Texas cavers have surely responded and have given
me further comfort. I knew how well Dwight was known and respected -- and how
looong he has known folks. His heart was always with them!
With appreciation,
Mary and Dwight's family
> On 06/25/2022 2:37
Carl Kunath wrote an excellent historical article on the use of the old Brunton
compass in cave surveying. Unfortunately, the major source of error was not
clearly noted.
That error is not having the Brunton as near perfectly level as possible when
you make the sighting. A tripod helps if
Thanks. Several folks said they had talked with him recently and that he seems
to be doing fine, just a little slower like most of us. He’s got a new e-mail
but rarely looks at it, and does not always pick up on the telephone.
He did not pick up on my phone call either, so I’m writing by
I tried to send Logan McNatt a Christmas greeting and it came back. Logan,
send me a private email. Thanks. DirtDoc
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Thanks a lot Lee, Donald, Rob, Linda. This article seems to describe what may
be a significant COVID-related problem. You and others have made some
thoughtful comments. Linda has a good point. Some of the posted comments seem
quite reasonable. I am afraid that mine are
Katie:
Your CD is on the way. But in this case, the formation consists of only one
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Try Charlie Loving or Igor.
> On 05/03/2021 1:45 PM Charles Loving wrote:
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> I had one but then I forgot it.
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OK. A column of us should descend in formation and crawl at the bottom.
Dirtdoc
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> On May 3, 2021, at 7:02 AM, Dwight Deal wrote:
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> Since this is a plural noun, perhaps we should all crawl in formation?
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> This is not a vote! Just a thought.
>
&g
Since this is a plural noun, perhaps we should all crawl in formation?
This is not a vote! Just a thought.
Dirtdoc
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 3, 2021, at 1:34 AM, Lee H. Skinner wrote:
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> RESULTS OF THE PLURAL NOUN FOR CAVERS POLL AND THE NEED FOR A RUNOFF POLL
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>
> There were 59
Ah Well ---. I both missed that and did not intend to do that. I just hit
reply to some email. Lazy me. Sorry.
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>From your fat-fingered caving friend. This is resend Lee, because I tried to
>answer from Mary’s new fart fone, apparently without success.
Two votes, one from Dwight and one from Mary. We both agree that if we want to
be serious and not frivolous about a plural noun for cavers, that A
. Thanks.
DirtDoc
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Request for Stories and Remembrances
By Dwight Deal, Dennis and Penny Knuckles, and Daryl and Cheryl Stisser
It will embarrass Jan terribly to read this and know that I have told the whole
world
Big Bend National Park Fire
Not caving-related, but of interest to many Texas Cavers. We have been in
Terlingua watching smoke and (at night) light from the flames in the far
distance. Much of the sky island high country in the Park has been burning
since last Thursday. It will recover,
I knew Nevin from Pennsylvania/Butler Cave. He also was an inspired inventor,
having built a motorized ascender (MAD I think he called it, for Motorized
Ascending Device). Nevin used it to come out of Golendrinas. I think he
modified a chain saw engine. He also was an electronic wizard.
NYTimes: A Ray of Hope in a Slimy Southern Cave
A Ray of Hope in a Slimy Southern Cave
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12 families have had their homes condemned and have been ordered to evacuate.
The collapse is in Black Hawk, SD and only about 100 yards from I-90. Robert
noted that it is amazing that it was not noticed when the Interstate was built.
Here is a video with some cavers being interviewed. You
Good job, you Pahasapa Cavers!
The development over the mine was probably out of ignorance, but that does not
help the poor home owners. They have just taken a huge hit on their equity. It
is even possible that at some of the houses could be declared uninhabitable in
the future.
Someone
For a post that was about neither caves nor karst, someone seems to have been
reading it. I received several thoughtful questions. Additionally, you have
reminded me that the answers show that this is related to karst after all,
justifying my posting on this forum. Thank you.
The miners and
Hi Nancy:
Forgive me if this is not quite cave and karst related, but -.
A smaller but similar "event" occurred about 25 miles southeast of Carlsbad in
1961. This was the Gnome Project and the first test as part of Project
Plowshare, a poorly-conceived attempt by Sandia National
World's largest radio telescope in China's karst
This is old news, but an interesting promotional/educational video and sort of
cave related. This is the world's largest radio telescope. 500 meters in
diameter, built in a large karst cockpit. It is in south-central Guizhou and
most of us
> its interesting that none of our rulers ever wear a mask.
I have not seen this ruler in person when he sent the comment, so I cannot
comment. Other than he is an A---s H---e if he does not wear a mask. Perhaps
that is only so they can speak clearly?
D
Official word from on high, from a P high muckey-muck who happens to be a
friend.
DirtDoc
Brief and accurate summary:
day use only. no camping or overnight use, no groups larger than 6 all mask
all of the time.
all access through reservation system no cash transactions plus social
We just viewed an unusual and exceptionally beautiful film about water: Aquarela
Although some have said that it is a film about climate warming, I see it as
about the importance and awesome power of water. Water is what makes life
possible on Earth, carves our landscapes, is the medium for
Or at least it looks like it. The interesting thing is that the message I got
appears to be from his usual email address.
Dirtdoc
> -- Original Message --
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> To:
> Date: November 25, 2019 at 7:23 AM
> Subject: Hello
>
> How are you doing?
>
> Please I
quincea~nera
Preston's accurate description of the problems of excess we have had at the
Huntsville facility (which I was unaware of) put a rather different twist than
I intended on my factitious comments to David. From David's report I actually
envisioned a traditional family celebration (in
I'm glad that the experience was educational for the 100% of your family who
spends hours a day watching Foxnews.
I can only imagine! NOT a Fake Event at all. But, will it have any effect on
how they feel about those awful Mesicans?
DirtDoc
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Well, cave or caving related? Actually it is as it effects our environmental
decisions and colors all of our actions on the way. So I apologize and, as I
once read here, HIT DELETE NOW.
Sorry Mike, but many of your "facts" just are not correct. Please do your
homework better. This kind of
An alternative to a carbide cannon at aquatic caver gatherings?
David, you do come up with some of the oddest posts. Do you search these things
out while patiently waiting for another opportunity to chase down accused
miscreants?
DirtDoc
> On September 12, 2019 at 9:43 PM David wrote:
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I was a geology student in 1956 and starting to survey caves in New York and
West Virginia. I stumbled on a used Brunton in a pawn shop in Manhattan. New
ones did indeed sell for around $100 at that time. This one was a reasonable
bargain but still, I thought, on the high-side for a pawn shop
I was a geology student in 1956 and starting to survey caves in New York and
West Virginia. I stumbled on a used Brunton in a pawn shop in Manhattan. New
ones did indeed sell for around $100 at that time. This one was a reasonable
bargain but still, I thought, on the high-side for a pawn shop
Louise Power was a very active Texas caver in the 1970s (Carta Velley and more)
and later, a BLM employee who did her best to encourage reasonable use and
preservation of karst and cave resources. For those who remember Louise, Carl
Kunath immortalized her on page 364 of 50 Years of Texas
, others.
An odd bit of trivia is that in the 1980's I was in Albuquerque with a business
associate and went into a local eatery for lunch. There we encountered a
friend of his, who was already dining with another person. After introductions
all around, the last guy said "Dwight Deal! I
Climbing movies, the Gulch, the Tetons, and how Crooked Thumb got his name
I cannot find Preston's direct email to reply, so forgive me for posting this
on the remailer. It is vaguely associated with caves, cavers, and caving, so
as someone else has famously said HIT DELETE NOW if it does
Thanks Lee.
I read that. I was in college (1955) when all that was going on. Just
starting to run rivers and cave and listened to a live concert by the Weavers
with Pete Seager in Troy, NY, who made a pitch against the Glenn Canyon Dam. An
innovative (at the time) movie of Glenn Canyon had
An interesting, thoughtful, and reasonable Guest Commentary appeared in
Tuesday's Denver Post
Drain Lake Powell and tear down Glen Canyon Dam to promote conservation and
water supply security
dgda...@nyx.net > wrote:
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>
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, Dwight Deal wrote:
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> > > The Wonderful Rio
> >
> > This is interesting. The bottom line is that there never was as
> > much water
> > in the river as was assumed initi
The Wonderful Rio
This is interesting. The bottom line is that there never was as much water in
the river as was assumed initially when the amount of water was allocated to
various states. Water wants are increasing. Law suits are proliferating. And
it seems to be raining less in the
Hi Rob:
I did not mean to diminish the seriousness of the problem. My major point is
that it is much more complicated than most people realize, including some of
those who are trying to grapple with the issue. Basically, too many people and
not enough water. It is hard to change that.
You
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