Bob and I surveyed some of the cave for the Park Service. we found a flow
stone wall that had a small crawl way half way up it that blew out our
carbide lamps. That was a few years back.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org>wrote:

> Very interesting indeed.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: DONALD G. DAVIS
> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:40 PM
> Subject: [SWR] Carlsbad Cavern: old lead goes to big new room in Spirit
> World
>
>
>
>       Appended below is interesting correspondence with Derek Bristol.
>
>                                                         --Donald
>
> ---------------
> From: Derek Bristol
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 21:22:31 -0700
> To: "DONALD G. DAVIS"
> Subject: Re: Spirit World Discovery
>
> I can't say I noticed any airflow, but the passages were large, and I'm
> not very good at detecting airflow. I'm pretty confident this is the same
> lead you talked about - Dilation Theory at work again!
>
> It's fine to talk about it. I bumped into Jim Goodbar the day after the
> climb and gave him the story.
>
> We'll be going back to continue the work, but unfortunately schedules have
> delayed this until February.
>
> Derek
>
> > On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:08 PM, "DONALD G. DAVIS"  wrote:
> >
> > Derek Bristol wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Donald, I hope you're well. I figured you might be interested to hear
> >> the news since you specifically asked me about the one remaining lead up
> >> in Spirit World. I was down at Carlsbad Caverns a couple of weeks ago
> and
> >> got permission to go up to do the climb up to the ledge that was ~150'
> >> from the too tight constriction where Spirit World ends. It didn't look
> >> very promising to me, but the climb didn't appear to be all that
> >> difficult. Shawn Thomas belayed, and I led up the 20' wall using a rope
> >> trick, one bolt, and a little free climbing at the top. Once up on the
> >> ledge, we found a flowstone and popcorn floored passage leading away to
> >> the SW. This flowstone is the source of the nice drapery hanging off the
> >> south end of the ledge. This passage only goes about 80' where it
> >> intersects a large room. We ended the survey here but took some Disto
> >> readings that show the room to be roughly 100' long and wide, and
> >> averaging 20' high. On the far end of the room is a flowstone cascade
> >> coming out of a dome that is another good lead. The flowstone here is
> >> covered in bat bones. There may be other leads out of the room, but we
> >> resisted the urge to scoop. We made the climb on Halloween eve, which
> >> seems appropriate for Spirit World, and have named the room Halloween
> >> Hall.
> >>
> >> Derek Bristol
> >
> >    How very interesting!  I'm pretty sure that has to be the lead I
> > thought years ago was worth taking a ladder up to check.  Looks as if I
> > was right.  Did there seem to be any airflow in the passage?  Is it OK to
> > tell others about this?  I presume there are plans for continuing survey?
> >
> >                            --Donald
>
>


-- 
Charlie Loving

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