Re: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-16 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Fritz Holt wrote: Lyndon, Don't overlook the Taxes, insurance and maintenance which will be sizable. Geezer property owner and insurance agent. - Fritz Yup, those too! Add the monthly home security bill and all the cleaning and vacuuming you have to do. -- Lyndon Tiu

RE: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-16 Thread Fritz Holt
t: Re: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming? I personally know people who are single (i.e. no family, no wife, no kids) who own/live in 3 bedroom houses. Some have 2 cars. They tell me it's a good investment to buy a house rather than continue on renting. You throw money away when you rent,

Re: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-16 Thread Lyndon Tiu
I personally know people who are single (i.e. no family, no wife, no kids) who own/live in 3 bedroom houses. Some have 2 cars. They tell me it's a good investment to buy a house rather than continue on renting. You throw money away when you rent, better to buy. Of course, they spend extra $$$

RE: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-16 Thread Louise Power
Diana, Love your story. We, too, grew up in a small house in East Texas. It was probably about the same size as yours, but there was just my sister and me in one bedroom and mom and dad in the second bedroom. We weren't nearly as crowded as you. However, no indoor bathroom. We had an outdoor

RE: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-16 Thread Louise Power
David said: So in reality, I don't see how we can stop this trend of people living in houses above their means. For me it's not so much living above their means as living above their needs. Louise

Re: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-16 Thread Diana Tomchick
I'm pretty sure that the house I lived in as a kid was around 1000 square feet total for 8 people. Actually, we only had 8 people in the house at one time for two years. My oldest sister went away to college in 1967, when my youngest brother was 2 years old. But then she came back in the

Re: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-16 Thread George Nincehelser
>Does anybody remember back in the 70 >when rich folks lived in homes like the >Brady Bunch had? I never got the impression that the Brady's were rich. Anway, the "house" wasn't a very good true representation. I think the "real" house, only has a couple of bedrooms. The way it was portrayed on

Re: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-16 Thread Diana Tomchick
Hey David, I can relate to this story. I spent the first 13 years of my life in a tiny old shack on our farm that was heated only by one wood-burning stove. This worked okay because a) we lived in the Seattle-Tacoma area, which doesn't get too cold, and b) the house was a teeny two- bedroo

Re: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-16 Thread David Locklear
Louise is right that the popularity of huge homes has increased the amount of fuel our nation consumes. Does anybody remember back in the 70's when rich folks lived in homes like the Brady Bunch had? I don't think those older homes consumed as much electicity as the homes today.Today, the ric

Re: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-16 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Interested in Global Warming? It is my opinion that if society is going to get serious about the fuel effect on the environment, that we should outlaw activies like NASCAR, boat racing, bonfires, christmas trees over 4 foot tall, ( no more city hall christmas trees ), drag racing, extreme sports tha

RE: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-15 Thread Louise Power
hings to do: learning to tell the difference between needs and wants Yours for a smaller footprint. Louise > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:00:42 -0600> From: fh...@townandcountryins.com> To: > dlocklea...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: RE: > [Texascavers] Inter

RE: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-15 Thread Fritz Holt
difference. Your wise-ass friend, Fritz -Original Message- From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:42 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming? It is my opinion that if society is going to

Re: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-15 Thread David Locklear
It is my opinion that if society is going to get serious about the fuel effect on the environment, that we should outlaw activies like NASCAR, boat racing, bonfires, christmas trees over 4 foot tall, ( no more city hall christmas trees ), drag racing, extreme sports that use fuel, and maybe some so

Re: [Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-15 Thread Diana Tomchick
I would be wary of anyone who also claims that 1) there are no adverse affects of second-hand smoke; 2) there is no connection between the use of chlorofluorocarbons and ozone depletion; 3) there is no connection between UV-B radiation exposure and melanoma. Singer was a professor of environm

[Texascavers] Interested in Global Warming?

2007-11-15 Thread Gill Ediger
This suggestion just appeared elsewhere: ---fwd> From: Bruce Bannerman For those of you who wish a bit of substance and citations to back up the claims, may I suggest "Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1.500 years" by S. Fred Singer and Dennis Avery. S. F