One of the best selling points for joining a grotto should be, "We
can take you on a much better, longer and more adventurous caving
trip than you can find at any commercial cave, and it's FREE!"
Could be a good tagline for a brochure...
Diana
On May 1, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Geary Schindel wrote:
Nico and others,
I understand that is about the going rate for deer leases in Texas
also. I figured that if most folks spend 10 weekends at their
lease feeding and grooming the deer and another week shooting them,
then cost comes out to about $100 per day give or take some.
Considering the cost of gas, travel time, food, beer, and
equipment, we probably have a fair amount of money tied up into
long caving trip to west Texas and more if we’re going to Mexico.
So adding another $100 to the cost of a trip might be more than
most folks would want to consider. Then again, $70 to $120 is the
range I’ve heard for wild cave trips into some of the private
commercial caves and folks are willing to pay it. It should be
interesting to see how this portion of the caving for pay issue
works out over the next couple of years.
Geary
-----Original Message-----
From: Nico Escamilla [mailto:pitboun...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:37 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: Bill Mixon; CaveTex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Langtry Lead
Geary
I dont know bout Texas but here in Mexico the average deer lease in
the Palo Blanco basin (the Anahuac and Lampazos area in Nuevo Leon
is about 2500 to 3000 bucks per gun, hunting season lasts 8 to 10
weeks, so the average price is less than 50 a day.. I know hunters
dont spend every single day at the lease during the season, but its
just a math I'm doing..
100 bucks is pretty steep at least for me
On 4/30/07, Geary Schindel <gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org > wrote:
Folks,
Regarding Langry Lead and Emerald Sink, I talked to the owner of the
caves this weekend. David L. gave me the contact information.
Thank you
David. I wanted to inquire regarding the status of the property and
caves.
It was an interesting conversation. He was not at his office but his
office manger recommended I call him on his cell phone. I introduced
myself and told him who I was, asked him if the caves were still open
and that I had heard that the property might be for sale.
He said that the caves were open, it would cost $100 per person to
visit
the caves. You would have to sign a release. He owns the property to
make money which also includes leasing the property to hunters. He
said
that the property was not for sale and that was pretty much the end of
the conversation.
I'm not a big fan of paying to go into a cave but our conversation
implied that he was treating cavers much like hunters who do pay to
hunt
on a piece of property. If you consider the price of a hunting lease
for a year and divide by the number of days you may be on that hunting
leave per year, than you are probably paying more per day to hunt than
to cave. This is a very dangerous slope to be on. I would hate to
have
caving turn into a money sport where you have to pay a fee to go
caving.
Geary Schindel
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