Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Alex Sproul
>I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before. So was I! Becky Jones is on the list; I'd have thought she'd pipe up. I did ask the PMI folks about the larger caving rope -- which they had dubbed "PIT Glow." It was discontinued in 2006 due to poor sales (i.e., too expensive). Good to hear fr

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Alex Sproul
>I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before. So was I! Becky Jones is on the list; I'd have thought she'd pipe up. I did ask the PMI folks about the larger caving rope -- which they had dubbed "PIT Glow." It was discontinued in 2006 due to poor sales (i.e., too expensive). Good to hear fr

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Alex Sproul
>I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before. So was I! Becky Jones is on the list; I'd have thought she'd pipe up. I did ask the PMI folks about the larger caving rope -- which they had dubbed "PIT Glow." It was discontinued in 2006 due to poor sales (i.e., too expensive). Good to hear fr

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Logan McNatt
Alex, thanks for the info. I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before. Logan (LowGun) On 6/6/2011 10:34 AM, Alex Sproul wrote: I offer for your perusal these phosphorescent caving and rescue products from Pigeon Mountain Industries: PMI Lumi-Line _http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658_ PMI NiteLine

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Logan McNatt
Alex, thanks for the info. I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before. Logan (LowGun) On 6/6/2011 10:34 AM, Alex Sproul wrote: I offer for your perusal these phosphorescent caving and rescue products from Pigeon Mountain Industries: PMI Lumi-Line _http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658_ PMI NiteLine

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Logan McNatt
Alex, thanks for the info. I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before. Logan (LowGun) On 6/6/2011 10:34 AM, Alex Sproul wrote: I offer for your perusal these phosphorescent caving and rescue products from Pigeon Mountain Industries: PMI Lumi-Line _http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658_ PMI NiteLine

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Don Cooper
Diana - I'm not of the opinion that it's enough light to do damage. :-) But speaking of the history of caving rope - I saw the transition of nylon parachute lines (550 cord) to dacron and later to kevlar. Dacron is still. Dacron has some fine qualities - viscous damping for instance. Not "stretc

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Don Cooper
Diana - I'm not of the opinion that it's enough light to do damage. :-) But speaking of the history of caving rope - I saw the transition of nylon parachute lines (550 cord) to dacron and later to kevlar. Dacron is still. Dacron has some fine qualities - viscous damping for instance. Not "stretc

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Don Cooper
Diana - I'm not of the opinion that it's enough light to do damage. :-) But speaking of the history of caving rope - I saw the transition of nylon parachute lines (550 cord) to dacron and later to kevlar. Dacron is still. Dacron has some fine qualities - viscous damping for instance. Not "stretc

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Diana Tomchick
> PMI Lumi-Line http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658 > > PMI NiteLine http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml > > They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100% > phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright. I still have a sample piece that > gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Diana Tomchick
> PMI Lumi-Line http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658 > > PMI NiteLine http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml > > They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100% > phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright. I still have a sample piece that > gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Diana Tomchick
> PMI Lumi-Line http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658 > > PMI NiteLine http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml > > They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100% > phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright. I still have a sample piece that > gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.

[Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Alex Sproul
LowGun wrote: >Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a >Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools. >"This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that >can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then >glow for up to 5 hours when placed

[Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Alex Sproul
LowGun wrote: >Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a >Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools. >"This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that >can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then >glow for up to 5 hours when placed

[Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-06 Thread Alex Sproul
LowGun wrote: >Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a >Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools. >"This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that >can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then >glow for up to 5 hours when placed

[Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-03 Thread Rod Goke
At one time, cavers did use polypropylene ropes to some degree, primarily for prusik knots. When I first started caving in 1968, most cavers in our grotto ascended with prusik knots instead of mechanical ascenders. Jumars existed, but they were too expensive for most of us university student cavers

[Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-03 Thread Rod Goke
At one time, cavers did use polypropylene ropes to some degree, primarily for prusik knots. When I first started caving in 1968, most cavers in our grotto ascended with prusik knots instead of mechanical ascenders. Jumars existed, but they were too expensive for most of us university student cavers

[Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

2011-06-03 Thread Rod Goke
At one time, cavers did use polypropylene ropes to some degree, primarily for prusik knots. When I first started caving in 1968, most cavers in our grotto ascended with prusik knots instead of mechanical ascenders. Jumars existed, but they were too expensive for most of us university student cavers