David, those are interesting comments coming from a guy who formerly used CaveTex to broadcast a "come-one-come-all" invitation to meet you and visit Midnight Cave. How were you planning to make sure that those who responded were "mature and consciencious about the speleothems" ? Were you a "competent trip leader"?
===Carl Kunath ----- Original Message ----- From: David Locklear To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] FW: Midnight Cave The cave he is referring to is one of our most treasured caves. Anyone who has ever seen it, would want to see that it is protected from abuse, and by abuse, I mean too many cavers carelessly visiting the cave. At the present time, I don't think there is a problem with too many cavers visiting the cave, however, all it takes is one clumsy caver to bump his caving helmet into a helectite. I would like to see a professional High-Definition film made in this cave. I would also like to see a coffee-table like book made of all the formations in this cave. Does the corkscrew need a gate? Does the cave need a better gate? Is the landowner ever going to sell the cave to the TCMA or Nature Conservancy? Have any cavers seriously considered trying to buy the cave? There are parts of this cave that don't have delicate formations and could be visited by recreational cavers without any problems. But how do you stop them from accidentally breaking a fish-tail? This trip requires a competent trip leader. This person should not take non-cavers in the cave. ( Should it be off-limits to non-TSA members ?? ) And I don't think anyone under 21 should go in the cave, unless the trip leader is certain they are mature and consciencious about the speleothems. I think there needs to be some general agreement among cavers that beginners are not told about what lies beyond the Corkscrew, or for that matter not taken to the cave at all. All trips announced to this cave should be called trips to "Slimey Grungy Belly-Crawl Cave." ( SGBCC ) People allergic to leaches should avoid this cave. That would weed out a few people, right?? David Locklear --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.11/944 - Release Date: 8/9/2007 2:44 PM
