[Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Mixon Bill
What's this world coming to, when a handled ascender like that has an up arrow on it? --Mixon Never play leadfrog with a unicorn. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save:

Re: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Diana Tomchick
Even the Petzl Basic ascender (my favorite, http://www.petzl.com/en/outdoor/multi-purpose-ascenders-0/basic) has an up arrow on it. This ClimbTech ascender appears to have been designed with rock climbers in mind. No idea how well it would hold up to muddy, gritty caving conditions. Diana *

RE: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Mark . Alman
: RE: [Texascavers] new ascender Hi Bill, May I refer you to a previous tag-line of yours: May the last lawyer be strangled with the entrials of the last priest. Cheers, Stefan -Original Message- From

Re: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Minton
Petzl gear has had an up arrow on their ascenders for many years. On the Croll it is a small figure of a caver with one arm pointing up in the direction of travel, rather than an obvious arrow. Maybe it's part of the CE certification, because most all brands have something similar,

Re: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Tim Stich
The UP arrow is a better graphic than the little guy with a helmet I think. Glad they switched to that. The Gris Gris goes one better and shows the rope path, your belaying hand, and the climber. You'd be surprised how many experienced people get spaced out and mess up things as well. On Thu,

[Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Mixon Bill
What's this world coming to, when a handled ascender like that has an up arrow on it? --Mixon Never play leadfrog with a unicorn. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save:

Re: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Diana Tomchick
Even the Petzl Basic ascender (my favorite, http://www.petzl.com/en/outdoor/multi-purpose-ascenders-0/basic) has an up arrow on it. This ClimbTech ascender appears to have been designed with rock climbers in mind. No idea how well it would hold up to muddy, gritty caving conditions. Diana *

RE: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Stefan Creaser
Hi Bill, May I refer you to a previous tag-line of yours: May the last lawyer be strangled with the entrials of the last priest. Cheers, Stefan -Original Message- From: Mixon Bill

RE: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Mark . Alman
: RE: [Texascavers] new ascender Hi Bill, May I refer you to a previous tag-line of yours: May the last lawyer be strangled with the entrials of the last priest. Cheers, Stefan -Original Message- From

Re: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Minton
Petzl gear has had an up arrow on their ascenders for many years. On the Croll it is a small figure of a caver with one arm pointing up in the direction of travel, rather than an obvious arrow. Maybe it's part of the CE certification, because most all brands have something similar,

Re: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Tim Stich
The UP arrow is a better graphic than the little guy with a helmet I think. Glad they switched to that. The Gris Gris goes one better and shows the rope path, your belaying hand, and the climber. You'd be surprised how many experienced people get spaced out and mess up things as well. On Thu,

[Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Mixon Bill
What's this world coming to, when a handled ascender like that has an up arrow on it? --Mixon Never play leadfrog with a unicorn. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save:

Re: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Diana Tomchick
Even the Petzl Basic ascender (my favorite, http://www.petzl.com/en/outdoor/multi-purpose-ascenders-0/basic) has an up arrow on it. This ClimbTech ascender appears to have been designed with rock climbers in mind. No idea how well it would hold up to muddy, gritty caving conditions. Diana *

RE: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Stefan Creaser
Hi Bill, May I refer you to a previous tag-line of yours: May the last lawyer be strangled with the entrials of the last priest. Cheers, Stefan -Original Message- From: Mixon Bill

RE: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Mark . Alman
: RE: [Texascavers] new ascender Hi Bill, May I refer you to a previous tag-line of yours: May the last lawyer be strangled with the entrials of the last priest. Cheers, Stefan -Original Message- From

Re: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Minton
Petzl gear has had an up arrow on their ascenders for many years. On the Croll it is a small figure of a caver with one arm pointing up in the direction of travel, rather than an obvious arrow. Maybe it's part of the CE certification, because most all brands have something similar,

Re: [Texascavers] new ascender

2012-01-26 Thread Tim Stich
The UP arrow is a better graphic than the little guy with a helmet I think. Glad they switched to that. The Gris Gris goes one better and shows the rope path, your belaying hand, and the climber. You'd be surprised how many experienced people get spaced out and mess up things as well. On Thu,

[Texascavers] New Ascender

2012-01-25 Thread Mark Minton
Here's an ascender I haven't seen before: http://www.climbtechgear.com/ascenders/. It's made by a reputable climbing gear manufacturer, so I presume it's safe and effective. It is significantly less expensive than comparable handled ascenders, which generally go for $60 - $70.

Re: [Texascavers] New Ascender

2012-01-25 Thread Ron R
One of the founders and engineers is my neighbor here in Wimberley. I have not talked to him lately, so I did not know they were making ascenders. I will ask him about them next time I see him. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: Here's an ascender I

[Texascavers] New Ascender

2012-01-25 Thread Mark Minton
Here's an ascender I haven't seen before: http://www.climbtechgear.com/ascenders/. It's made by a reputable climbing gear manufacturer, so I presume it's safe and effective. It is significantly less expensive than comparable handled ascenders, which generally go for $60 - $70.

Re: [Texascavers] New Ascender

2012-01-25 Thread Ron R
One of the founders and engineers is my neighbor here in Wimberley. I have not talked to him lately, so I did not know they were making ascenders. I will ask him about them next time I see him. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: Here's an ascender I

[Texascavers] New Ascender

2012-01-25 Thread Mark Minton
Here's an ascender I haven't seen before: http://www.climbtechgear.com/ascenders/. It's made by a reputable climbing gear manufacturer, so I presume it's safe and effective. It is significantly less expensive than comparable handled ascenders, which generally go for $60 - $70.

Re: [Texascavers] New Ascender

2012-01-25 Thread Ron R
One of the founders and engineers is my neighbor here in Wimberley. I have not talked to him lately, so I did not know they were making ascenders. I will ask him about them next time I see him. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: Here's an ascender I