I'm on both because I really like caves, and I really like Cavers and their
conversation is lively and interesting. I don't agree with a lot of them ,
and I don't believe a lot of them, but I like listening to'em and
reading'em.
I hope Gil comes over here. I learned some interesting train stuff from
his posts.
David Caudle
100' from a TAG cave, in a house heated by cave water.
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