Yes, let's please keep the listserve focused on its intended purpose. Lots
of us consider unsubscribing when we get off-topic rants, of any persuasion.
Yours for good cave and caver-related communication,
Frank Binney NSS 10816F


On 9/13/07 4:48 PM, "vivb...@att.net" <vivb...@att.net> wrote:

> I've learned to tolerate, and even enjoy the off topic discussions of vehicles
> on this listserve. LED household bulbs, google maps, and truck tents are
> similarly interesting, if not directly cave related.
>  
> But I have to draw the line at blatant political rhetoric. This is not what
> this list is for. This is taking advantage of an easy medium to reach lots of
> people. People who did not sign up for political propaganda.
> 
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Fritz Holt" <fh...@townandcountryins.com>
>> 
>> Phyllis, I whole-heartedly agree. Our federal, state and local
>> governments are out of control with crazy liberal (and some
>> conservative) legislators and officials enacting and supporting such
>> inane laws and rules.
>> I wish it were as easy as simply "taking down the bird feeder" which
>> seems to be out of reach. Unfortunately, these officials don't seem to
>> hear their constituent's cries.
>> Or is it that we who pay the overblown budgets are no longer the
>> majority?
>> Until there is an outcry of opposition by the voting majority and REAL
>> policing of our borders this burdensome problem will not be corrected.
>> The groundswell has not yet become large enough to garner the attention
>> of those with the power to address the matter in the proper manner.
>> Let's pray that it does soon.
>> Fritz Holt, a concerned citizen and lover of our great country and its
>> LEGAL freedoms and opportunities.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sullivan, Phyllis [mailto:psulli...@second.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:01 PM
>> To: Fritz Holt
>> Subject: FW: QUITE AN ANALOGY
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: Fw: QUITE AN ANALOGY
>> 
>>>>> I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it
>>>>> with seed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
>>>>> continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the
>>>>> patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the
>>>>> chairs, the table...everywhere.
>>>> 
>>>>> Then some of the birds turned mean:
>>>>> 
>>>>> They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed
>>>>> them out of my own pocket.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And others birds were boisterous and loud:
>>>>> 
>>>>> They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the
>>>>> day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
>>>>> 
>>>>> After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built
>>>>> all over the patio.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Soon, the back yard was like it used to be...... quiet, serene and
>>>>> no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now lets see....... our government gives out free food, subsidized
>>>>> housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born
>>>>> here to be an automatic citizen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Suddenly ! our taxes went up to pay for free services; small
>>>>> apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be
>>>>> seen by an emergency room doctor: your child's 2nd grade class is
>>>>> behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak
>>>>> English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press
>>>>> "one" to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags
>>>>> other than "Old Glory" are squawking and screaming in the streets,
>>>>> demanding more rights and free liberties.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe it's time for the! government to take down the bird feeder.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you agree, pass this on.........
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
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