Re: [Texascavers] cave rescue related

2009-11-30 Thread DJ Walker
Calling 911 is not mandated by law in the event of most lawful accidents, be it cave related or not. For example, if someone falls in their back yard and breaks their arm or leg, they are not required to call 911. A trip to the ER may be warranted but it is not required to call emergency se

Re: [Texascavers] cave rescue related

2009-11-29 Thread Brian Riordan
This law about calling 911 seems subjective. If we were required by law everytime there was a cave "accident" (whatever that is) I think I would have called it at least a half a dozen times by now. There are plenty of times I've been with someone "stuck" or have been stuck myself for far longer t

Re: [Texascavers] cave rescue related

2009-11-29 Thread David
I feel like I have posted this before, but can't remember. Back in 1995, caver's gathered in the Sierra Alvarez for the 3rd Mexpeleo. There was a female on rope in and found her self upside-down in a tight vertical crevice.The cave was only about 1/4 mile from camp. Her husband rushed back

Re: [Texascavers] cave rescue related

2009-11-29 Thread Gill Edigar
Does that mean that we cannot start a self-rescue until the sheriff arrives and approves it? Where is that line drawn? What if we preform a self-rescue and never can or manage to get ahold of the sheriff or call 911? What kind of trouble are we in then? Just want to be sure to comply with the law.

Re: [Texascavers] cave rescue related

2009-11-29 Thread J. LaRue Thomas
In the event of a cave accident, in the State of Texas you must call 911. That said, make sure the sheriff's department in your area knows that cave rescue is a special skill and make sure the sheriff has an easy way to contact the people with those skills. I'm betting just about any sheriff