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Today's Topics:

   1. UT and USS Grotto meeting 7/30 (Andrea Croskrey via Texascavers)
   2. The Printed Word (Mimi Jasek via Texascavers)
   3. Re: The Printed Word (Jill Orr via Texascavers)
   4. Re: The Printed Word (Jill Orr via Texascavers)
   5. Re: The Printed Word (via Texascavers)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:25:42 -0500
From: Andrea Croskrey via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
To: Texas Cavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Subject: [Texascavers] UT and USS Grotto meeting 7/30
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Grotto Meeting this week!!!

Instead of presenting two weeks ago when most of the grotto was out of
town, Kurt Menking will be sharing his thoughts on caving ethics this week.

See the website for more about location and time.


http://www.utgrotto.org


Cavingly,

Andrea Croskrey
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:58:08 -0500
From: Mimi Jasek via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
To: TexasCavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Subject: [Texascavers] The Printed Word
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How utterly sad - and totally disheartening - to finally see something on paper 
about caving in Texas this year in the NSS News, rather than in a Texas Caver. 
Something very wrong somewhere. 

Mimi Jasek

Sent from my iPhone

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:30:38 +0200
From: Jill Orr via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
To: "'Mimi Jasek'" <mjca...@gmail.com>, <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word
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You are absolutely right 

I don’t know what to do. Before I left I asked and asked for articles and 
photos. I've asked people to help solicit articles. I put so much time into 
layout and editing, getting it printed and mailed I feel like its pushing the 
limit to have to spend the time asking and following up and asking again. But 
I'm preaching to the choir.

 
jill orr 
210.399.6762
jillorr.businesscatalyst.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Mimi Jasek via Texascavers
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 06:58
To: TexasCavers
Subject: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

How utterly sad - and totally disheartening - to finally see something on paper 
about caving in Texas this year in the NSS News, rather than in a Texas Caver. 
Something very wrong somewhere. 

Mimi Jasek

Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:29:23 +0200
From: Jill Orr via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
To: "'Jill Orr'" <jill...@swbell.net>,  <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word
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Sorry y'all for the whine.... This was supposed to be private reply
But if it helps get articles its worth it! 

 jill orr 
210.399.6762
jillorr.businesscatalyst.com


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From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Jill Orr via Texascavers
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:31
To: 'Mimi Jasek'; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

You are absolutely right 

I don’t know what to do. Before I left I asked and asked for articles and 
photos. I've asked people to help solicit articles. I put so much time into 
layout and editing, getting it printed and mailed I feel like its pushing the 
limit to have to spend the time asking and following up and asking again. But 
I'm preaching to the choir.

 
jill orr 
210.399.6762
jillorr.businesscatalyst.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Mimi Jasek via Texascavers
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 06:58
To: TexasCavers
Subject: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

How utterly sad - and totally disheartening - to finally see something on paper 
about caving in Texas this year in the NSS News, rather than in a Texas Caver. 
Something very wrong somewhere. 

Mimi Jasek

Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:37:44 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The Printed Word
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Agreed, Mimi.


When I was the Editor, I was dismayed (and somewhat confused) by the fact that 
folks didn't realize that their article could be printed in BOTH publications.

Not all TSA members are NNS members and vice versa.


Since these are the dog days of summer and caving in the state, this may be a 
good time to talk about the state of the TC and the TSA.

Personally, I'm worried about a long and slow death of the TSA, mainly due to 
apathy and social networking.


Hopefully, I'm wrong.

 Y'all's thoughts?


Mark





-----Original Message-----
From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Mimi Jasek via Texascavers
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:58 PM
To: TexasCavers
Subject: [Texascavers] The Printed Word

How utterly sad - and totally disheartening - to finally see something on paper 
about caving in Texas this year in the NSS News, rather than in a Texas Caver. 
Something very wrong somewhere.

Mimi Jasek

Sent from my iPhone
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