texascavers Digest 16 Sep 2013 16:05:00 -0000 Issue 1845
Topics (messages 22693 through 22697):
Discovery Well Cave Preserve Insident
22693 by: Mike Walsh
22694 by: Don Cooper
22695 by: Leslie Bell
Re: Solo Caving
22696 by: Louise Power
Re: [SWR] Guadalupe Mountains National Park News Release - Storm Closure Update
22697 by: Diana Tomchick
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This evening, September 15, the Texas Cave Conservancy had
Christopher Francke and other cavers out at Discovery Well conducting GPS
cave location for a cave report for the City of Cedar Park. They were also
making night mammal observations for the report. Approximately one hour ago
(7:00 PM) a vehicle ran off the road, through a fence and into the preserve.
The cavers were able to open the locked gate into the property for the
emergency vehicles and the police. They identified themselves and had the
proper information to show that they were there with permission.
Christopher Francke called TCC President Mike Walsh to report the incident.
Walsh went out to the property, met with the Cedar Park Police and
identified himself as the property manager for the city. Walsh informed
them that the property was owned by the State of Texas, leased by the City
of Cedar Park and that the caves were managed by the Texas Cave Conservancy.
This situation shows how the Texas Cave Conservancy works with their clients
to find Solutions to Cave Related Problems. Walsh has reported to Curt
Randa, Cedar Park - Parks & Recreation Director that approximately forty
feet of fence was taken out. There appeared to be no damage to Discovery
Well Cave Preserve critical habitat area. A copy of this will be forwarded
to the Austin U.S Fish & Wildlife.
Mike Walsh - President Texas Cave Conservancy
512-249-2283
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Well I'm sure we're all happy that all the officials were represented - all
the i's being dotted and all the t's crossed and praise Jehovah that
everyone was there legally - but what became of the person in the wayward
vehicle?
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Mike Walsh <mikewaus...@austin.rr.com>wrote:
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> This evening, September 15, the Texas Cave Conservancy had
> Christopher
> Francke and other cavers out at Discovery Well conducting GPS cave
> location for a cave report for the City of Cedar Park. They were also
> making night mammal observations for the report. Approximately one hour
> ago (7:00 PM) a vehicle ran off the road, through a fence and into the
> preserve. The cavers were able to open the locked gate into the property
> for the emergency vehicles and the police. They identified themselves and
> had the proper information to show that they were there with permission.
> Christopher Francke called TCC President Mike Walsh to report the
> incident. Walsh went out to the property, met with the Cedar Park Police
> and identified himself as the property manager for the city. Walsh
> informed them that the property was owned by the State of ****Texas****,
> leased by the City of Cedar Park and that the caves were managed by the
> Texas Cave Conservancy.****
>
> ** **
>
> This situation shows how the Texas Cave Conservancy works with their
> clients to find Solutions to Cave Related Problems. Walsh has reported to
> Curt Randa, ****Cedar** **Park**** – Parks & Recreation Director that
> approximately forty feet of fence was taken out. There appeared to be no
> damage to Discovery Well Cave Preserve critical habitat area. A copy of
> this will be forwarded to the Austin U.S Fish & Wildlife.****
>
> ** **
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> Mike Walsh - ****President** **Texas** **Cave**** Conservancy****
>
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> 512-249-2283****
>
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Luckily, she made it out with just a scratch.
Amazing, considering her car was completely overturned.
Leslie Bell
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From: Don Cooper <wavyca...@gmail.com>
To: Mike Walsh <mikewaus...@austin.rr.com>
Cc: "Cavers, Texas" <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Discovery Well Cave Preserve Insident
Well I'm sure we're all happy that all the officials were represented - all the
i's being dotted and all the t's crossed and praise Jehovah that everyone was
there legally - but what became of the person in the wayward vehicle?
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Mike Walsh <mikewaus...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> This evening, September 15, the Texas Cave Conservancy had
>Christopher
Francke and other cavers out at Discovery Well conducting GPS cave location
for a cave report for the City of Cedar Park. They were also making night mammal
observations for the report. Approximately one hour ago (7:00 PM) a vehicle
ran off the road, through a fence and into the preserve. The cavers were able
to open the locked gate into the property for the emergency vehicles and the
police. They identified themselves and had the proper information to show
that they were there with permission. Christopher Francke called TCC President
Mike Walsh to report the incident. Walsh went out to the property, met with
the Cedar Park Police and identified himself as the property manager for the
city. Walsh informed them that the property was owned by the State of Texas,
leased by the
City of Cedar Park and that the caves were managed by the Texas Cave
Conservancy.
>
>This situation shows how the Texas Cave Conservancy works with their
clients to find Solutions to Cave Related Problems. Walsh has reported to Curt
Randa, Cedar Park – Parks & Recreation
Director that approximately forty feet of fence was taken out. There appeared
to be no damage to Discovery Well Cave Preserve critical habitat area. A copy
of this will be forwarded to the Austin U.S Fish & Wildlife.
>
>
>
>Mike Walsh - President Texas Cave Conservancy
>
>512-249-2283
>
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Was it 10 hours because you were having a good time or because you couldn't
find your way out?
From: ca...@caver.net
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 13:42:32 -0500
Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Solo Caving
Done a whole bunch in Amazing Maze Cave back in the mid 80's. I was in my 20's
and was going to live forever. Regular pack nothing out of the ordinary. Can't
remember if I told anyone where I was going or not. Would not do it again... I
teach and preach against it now... The longest solo trip in there was about 10
hours...Maybe longer ...
Bill
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From: "Pierce, Karl" <karl_pie...@nps.gov<mailto:karl_pie...@nps.gov>>
Subject: Guadalupe Mountains National Park News Release - Storm Closure Update
Date: September 13, 2013 4:48:57 PM MDT
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Bcc: <bels...@valornet.com<mailto:bels...@valornet.com>>
National Park Service Guadalupe Mountains 400
Pine Canyon Drive
U.S. Department of the Interior National Park
Salt Flat, TX 79847
915-828-3251 phone
915-828-3269 fax
Guadalupe Mountains News Release
Release date: Immediate
Contact(s): Karl M. Pierce
Phone number: 432-940-2440
Email: karl_pie...@nps.gov<mailto:karl_pie...@nps.gov>
Date: September 13, 2013
Release code: 13-08
Guadalupe Mountains National Park Storm Closure Update
(Pine Springs, TX) Park Superintendent Dennis A. Vásquez announced that
although most of the park areas closed by the recent storm will remain closed,
the park is beginning to open some areas, as park staff is able to assess
damage and begin effecting repairs from heavy rains and flooding.
The Pine Springs Visitor Center remains open to provide information and assist
visitors and motorists, and the Pine Springs Campground and the Pinery have
reopened. Frijole Ranch Road is open as far as the corral, and visitors may
hike from there to Smith Spring, from the west side only, and to Manzanita
Spring. The Smith Spring Trail remains closed between Smith Spring and
Manzanita Spring. The Guadalupe Peak Trail, the Horse Trail from Guadalupe
Peak, the Pinery Trail and the first mile, only, of the Devil’s Hall Trail have
reopened, as well. The Guadalupe Peak Backcountry Campground is also open.
However, most trails still have loose rocks and uneven ground, and many require
shallow water crossings, and hikers and backpackers should exercise
extreme caution. The park hopes to open the Frijole Ranch Cultural History
Museum tomorrow morning.
McKittrick Canyon, Williams Ranch, the Salt Basin Dunes, Dog Canyon and all
other ackcountry areas, unpaved roads and trails will remain closed, at least
through the weekend, as water levels continue to recede and the park begins to
dry out.
“This was a very unusual event. Even people who have been here a long time
cannot remember a rain event like this. The ground is still saturated in many
areas, and creeks, arroyos, springs and seeps are still running, even though
the water has receded. Williams Ranch Road and several trails have washed out
areas, which will take time to repair. We are continuing to monitor and assess
conditions, and will continue to open the closed areas of the park as soon as
it is safe to do so. As always, our primary concern is for the safety of park
visitors and staff,and for the protection of park resources,” said Vásquez.
The Texas Department of Transportation reported that FM 1437, FM 2249 and
FM1575, in the Dell City area, are now open. However, the New Mexico Department
of Transportation is reporting that NM 137 to Dog Canyon will remain closed
between mile marker 1 and mile marker 54 until early next week. There will be
no access to Dog Canyon until that road re-opens. The National Weather Service
reported that the Bowl recorded 12.41 inches of rain during a 24 hour period
from September 11-12, while Dog Canyon recorded 9.50 inches, McKittrick Canyon
recorded 7.32 inches and the Pinery recorded 5.12 inches. The Texas Tech
University West Texas Mesonet
(http://www.mesonet.ttu.edu<http://www.mesonet.ttu.edu/>) weather station,
located near the park’s fire cache, registered 15.73 inches of rain between
September 9 and 14, including 13.50 inches during a 24 hour period on
September 12-13.
Park information, including park conditions, closures or restrictions, weather
and program information, may be found on the park’s website at
www.nps.gov/GUMO/<http://www.nps.gov/GUMO/>, on the park’s Facebook page at
www.facebook.com/Guadalupe.Mountains/<http://www.facebook.com/Guadalupe.Mountains/>,
or by contacting the Pine Springs Visitor Center at (915) 828- 3251 x2124. The
Pine Springs Visitor Center is open daily (except for Christmas) from 8:00 AM
until 4:30 PM. The McKittrick Canyon, Frijole Ranch House, Dog Canyon and Salt
Basin Dunes (Dell City, TX) Visitor Contact Stations are open intermittently.
Please call the Pine Springs Visitor Center at (915) 828-3251 x2124 to find out
whether they are open. For Dog Canyon, call the Dog Canyon Visitor Contact
Station/Ranger Station at (575) 981-2418.
For the latest weather information for Guadalupe Mountains National Park, see
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?zoneid=TXZ258 or
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?zoneid=TXZ421. For the latest road
information, call 511, or visit www.drivetexas.org/<http://www.drivetexas.org/>
for Texas or http://nmroads.com/ for New Mexico.
-NPS-
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Guadalupe Mountains National Park News Release - Park Storm Closure Update 07-13-2013.pdf
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