texascavers Digest 21 Feb 2009 06:53:35 -0000 Issue 713
Topics (messages 10202 through 10211):
2009 National Cave Rescue Commission Scholarships
10202 by: David Ochel
Seeking Barb MacLeod
10203 by: speleosteele.tx.rr.com
Re: 2nd announcement for the 6th Distinguished Lecturer - Derek Ford on March 20
10204 by: Geary Schindel
Kinda hurts my soul
10205 by: Matt Turner
10206 by: Louise Power
10207 by: speleosteele.tx.rr.com
10208 by: speleosteele.tx.rr.com
Kinda hurts
10209 by: Gill Ediger
3rd TCC Winter Conference next weekend
10210 by: Mike Walsh
Thanks Lyndon February 27-March 1 TCC Winter Conference
10211 by: Mike Walsh
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Quoting http://www.caves.org/ncrc/national/Scholarship2009.htm :
"The NCRC will award two $200 dollar scholarships to help students
attend the national weeklong seminar in Bedford, IN June 13-20, 2009. To
be considered please send a caving resume, 2 letters of support from NSS
members, and a cover letter describing your financial need and how your
cave rescue training would benefit the caving community in your region.
Submit your information to Roger Mortimer, 1455 N. Echo Avenue, Fresno,
CA 93728. All materials may be submitted electronically to
ncrc-scholars...@sbcglobal.net. All materials must arrive by March 1,
2009 to be considered."
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Does anyone have a current telephone number for Austinite Barb MacLeod? And
also, Rae Nadler-Olenick? Please send me one or both offline.
Thanks,
Bill Steele
Irving, Texas
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Subject: 2nd announcement for the 6th Distinguished Lecturer - Derek
Ford on March 20
This is the 2nd announcement that Derek Ford will be the 6th Edwards
Aquifer Authority Distinguished Lecturer. The presentation will be held
at Southwest Research Institute on Friday, March 20, 2009 from 9:00 AM
to 4:00 PM. Dr. Ford from McMaster University is a Professor Emeritus
of Physical Geography and Geology. He is a geomorphologist,
hydrologist, and groundwater geochemist specializing in karst landforms,
There are about 15 seats left for this presentation so if you would like
to attend, you are encouraged to register as soon as possible.
Considering that the presentation is about a month away, interest in the
lecture has been overwhelming. You may register by contacting Ms Elida
Bocanegra at ebocane...@edwardsaquifer.org or by dialing 210-222-2204.
You must preregister to attend. Cost for the lecture is $20 and
includes lunch and drinks.
Dr. Ford has preformed karst related research throughout the world
including Ontario, British Columbia, and the Northwest Territories. He
has worked on every continent except Africa and is noted for his
textbook he wrote with Paul Williams titled Karst Geomorphology and
Hydrology. He also contributed to the Nahanni National Park Reserve
designation as UNESCO's first natural World Heritage Site in 1978. His
research interests include speleogenesis, karst morphogenesis,
hydrogeology, geochemisty, speleothem paleoenvironments, paleokarst
phenomena, applied studies such as collapse hazards and leaking dams.
He has supervised over 60 PhD and MSc students and hosted more than 30
post doctoral students and visiting scientists and has a publication
list of more than 250 entries. He still enjoys caving but says he is
slow in crawls and no good on big drops or free diving siphons!
Thank you,
Geary M. Schindel, P.G.
Chief Technical Officer
Edwards Aquifer Authority
1615 N. St. Mary's Street
San Antonio, Texas 78215
210-222-2204
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330306913609&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1123
Just in case someone wants a cave home in missouri. I'm sure it had low energy
bills.
Matt Turner
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without
accepting it." - Aristotle
"Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do
that."- Norman Vincent Peale
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Why would anybody want to ruin a perfectly good cave with a house? What family
of 5 needs 17000 sq ft? What happened to all the cave formations? Where does
their waste go? Does it pollute the ground water? It looks cool, but degrades
the whole area!
I was appalled.
When I was in what was then called Yugoslavia, there were people in the Karst
Mountains living in caves out of necessity, not necessarily because it was
cool. They also penned up their livestock right there in the entrance. (Where
is Glade room freshener when you need it?)
Louise
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:31:07 -0800
From: kat...@yahoo.com
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Kinda hurts my soul
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330306913609&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1123
Just in case someone wants a cave home in missouri. I'm sure it had low energy
bills.
Matt Turner
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without
accepting it." - Aristotle
"Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do
that."- Norman Vincent Peale
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I thought I posted this remark earlier today, but I don't see that it
succeeded. That does not look like a natural cave to me. Instead, it looks like
a limestone quarry, like the one near Milltown, Indiana where a party was held
at the NSS convention a couple of years ago.
Bill
---- Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why would anybody want to ruin a perfectly good cave with a house? What
> family of 5 needs 17000 sq ft? What happened to all the cave formations?
> Where does their waste go? Does it pollute the ground water? It looks cool,
> but degrades the whole area!
>
>
>
> I was appalled.
>
>
>
> When I was in what was then called Yugoslavia, there were people in the Karst
> Mountains living in caves out of necessity, not necessarily because it was
> cool. They also penned up their livestock right there in the entrance. (Where
> is Glade room freshener when you need it?)
>
>
> Louise
>
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:31:07 -0800
> From: kat...@yahoo.com
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: [Texascavers] Kinda hurts my soul
>
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330306913609&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1123
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>
> Just in case someone wants a cave home in missouri. I'm sure it had low
> energy bills.
>
>
> Matt Turner
>
>
>
> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without
> accepting it." - Aristotle
>
>
> "Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can
> do that."- Norman Vincent Peale
>
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I thought I posted this remark earlier today, but I don't see that it
succeeded. That does not look like a natural cave to me. Instead, it looks like
a limestone quarry, like the one near Milltown, Indiana where a party was held
at the NSS convention a couple of years ago.
Bill
---- Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why would anybody want to ruin a perfectly good cave with a house? What
> family of 5 needs 17000 sq ft? What happened to all the cave formations?
> Where does their waste go? Does it pollute the ground water? It looks cool,
> but degrades the whole area!
>
>
>
> I was appalled.
>
>
>
> When I was in what was then called Yugoslavia, there were people in the Karst
> Mountains living in caves out of necessity, not necessarily because it was
> cool. They also penned up their livestock right there in the entrance. (Where
> is Glade room freshener when you need it?)
>
>
> Louise
>
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:31:07 -0800
> From: kat...@yahoo.com
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: [Texascavers] Kinda hurts my soul
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330306913609&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1123
>
>
> Just in case someone wants a cave home in missouri. I'm sure it had low
> energy bills.
>
>
> Matt Turner
>
>
>
> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without
> accepting it." - Aristotle
>
>
> "Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can
> do that."- Norman Vincent Peale
>
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At 05:37 PM 2/20/2009, speleoste...@tx.rr.com wrote:
That does not look like a natural cave to me. Instead, it looks like
a limestone quarry,
I think the original article said it was a sand stone quarry/mine.
--Ediger
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TCC Winter Conference
The Texas Cave Conservancy would like to invite you out to the
third TCC Winter Conference, February 22-March 1, 2009. The Cedar Park,
Texas conference is an opportunity for you to get out that winter coat,
tent, sleeping-bag and do some camping, caving, learning and even some
partying. The cave CO2 levels should be at their lowest this time of the
year. It is a time for caving. This annual event is directed toward new
cavers. Even the old folks are welcome.
Camping (with a campfire) is available at the TCC Headquarters. In
the event of a real winter we can make space for cavers inside the TCC
Headquarters. Breakfast will be available on Saturday and Sunday. We will
have an evening meal Saturday night followed by a special presentation and a
party. Some of the TCR cooks will be making Mexican food. Caving is
available all weekend.
With a donation for the old- time cavers and free for cavers that
have been caving for less than five years, how can you go wrong? This event
will be what we make of it. If you want to hold a workshop, cave ballads,
slides, or what -ever, contact us. If it is not fun, it probably is not
worth doing.
The events will start Saturday morning at 9:00 from the TCC Headquarters.
Information on tours, workshops and caving will be available at the TCC
Headquarters all day Saturday. Don't miss visiting the Twin Creek
Conference area with a 100 year old log cabin, springs, year round water,
tall trees and a great shelter cave. The following are just some of the
activities planed for the conference. Most of these activities will take
place on Saturday. Caving-Friday-Saturday-Sunday.
Arrowhead Making 6:00P.M. Bob Finger.
Cave Related Geology tour Bill Larson.
Saturday Night Meal & party 7:00 P.M. at TCC Headquarters
Ron Kerbo's Special Saturday Evening Presentation (After dinner)
All activities start for the TCC Headquarters at::
1800 West Park, Cedar Park, Texas. To reach the TCC Headquarters from
Austin, Drive north on HWY 183, exit on Lakeline Mall Boulevard (last free
exit), follow access road, turn left under HWY 183 on Lakeline Boulevard,
drive 3.8 miles to Park Street, turn left into TCC property. Call
512-249-2283 for more information
Send a e-mail to tcc-ca...@austin.rr.com to subscribe to the TCC-NEWS
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TCC Winter Conference
The Texas Cave Conservancy would like to invite you out to the
third TCC Winter Conference, February 27-March 1, 2009. The Cedar Park,
Texas conference is an opportunity for you to get out that winter coat,
tent, sleeping-bag and do some camping, caving, learning and even some
partying. The cave CO2 levels should be at their lowest this time of the
year. It is a time for caving. This annual event is directed toward new
cavers. Even the old folks are welcome.
Camping (with a campfire) is available at the TCC Headquarters. In
the event of a real winter we can make space for cavers inside the TCC
Headquarters. Breakfast will be available on Saturday and Sunday. We will
have an evening meal Saturday night followed by a special presentation and a
party. Some of the TCR cooks will be making Mexican food. Caving is
available all weekend.
With a donation for the old- time cavers and free for cavers that
have been caving for less than five years, how can you go wrong? This event
will be what we make of it. If you want to hold a workshop, cave ballads,
slides, or what -ever, contact us. If it is not fun, it probably is not
worth doing.
The events will start Saturday morning at 9:00 from the TCC Headquarters.
Information on tours, workshops and caving will be available at the TCC
Headquarters all day Saturday. Don't miss visiting the Twin Creek
Conference area with a 100 year old log cabin, springs, year round water,
tall trees and a great shelter cave. The following are just some of the
activities planed for the conference. Most of these activities will take
place on Saturday. Caving-Friday-Saturday-Sunday.
Arrowhead Making 6:00P.M. Bob Finger.
Cave Related Geology tour Bill Larson.
Saturday Night Meal & party 7:00 P.M. at TCC Headquarters
Ron Kerbo's Special Saturday Evening Presentation (After dinner)
All activities start for the TCC Headquarters at::
1800 West Park, Cedar Park, Texas. To reach the TCC Headquarters from
Austin, Drive north on HWY 183, exit on Lakeline Mall Boulevard (last free
exit), follow access road, turn left under HWY 183 on Lakeline Boulevard,
drive 3.8 miles to Park Street, turn left into TCC property. Call
512-249-2283 for more information
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