Re: [tw5] Re: <$list> and duplicate items

Thanks, Mal. I'm a little embarrassed I missed that. Regards, David. On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:32, Mal wrote: > Actually, the instructions for running the prerelease under nodejs are on > tiddlywiki.com > >

[tw5] Re: Variables in list filters

Reece, You actually made implementation much smoother by your naming structure, by choosing meaningful tiddler titles of System tiddlers templates (and other data tiddlers) with the right *suffixes* - such as the names of tiddlers and tags they relate to. As you can see by the simplicity of the

Re: [tw5] Re: <$list> and duplicate items

Actually, the instructions for running the prerelease under nodejs are on tiddlywiki.com . Mal On Monday, 4 March 2019 12:59:22 UTC+10, Mal wrote: > > David. > > I can't comment on the release schedule for

Re: [tw5] Re: <$list> and duplicate items

David. I can't comment on the release schedule for 5.1.20 - I think Jeremy follows a "release when ready" strategy. If you go the 5.1.20 prerelease, you can download empty.html. I don't know how to upgrade the nodejs version to the prerelease. Regards, Ma

[tw5] Re: Variables in list filters

This worked perfectly! I also better understand how sets work, and on top of that I didn't realize there was a removeprefix operator. Thanks so much! I think I can apply this in a few other ways as well... -Reece On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 1:20:47 AM UTC-5, S. S. wrote: > > Reece, > > Maybe us

Re: [tw5] Re: <$list> and duplicate items

Genius. That looks exactly like what I need. Is there a release schedule for 5.1.20? Is there any way to install it under nodejs now if you're willing to accept the risk of breakage? Regards, David. On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:30, Mal wrote: > > If you put the following into the advanced search /

[tw5] Re: <$list> and duplicate items

David, If you put the following into the advanced search / filter box in 5.1.20 prerelease: "one/two/one/three" +[split[/]] You get: one two one three Is this what you are after? Of course it won't work in earlier releases and it works like this even without Jeremy's recent trials of allowi

[tw5] <$list> and duplicate items

I've read the previous discussions about how filters remove duplicates because they are based on the assumption all they will ever be fed is tiddler titles, and how filters *may* be changed to accept duplicates in the next major, i.e., backwardly incompatible, upgrade. I need to break a string

[tw5] Re: <$select> and Web accessibility

*Tony wrote: Alternatively what about placing along side your select widget an empty button with a tooltip?* Tony, I think you've got it! Paste this in a new tiddler (for example, at TiddlyWiki.com) <$button tooltip="This select widget displays a list of the tags in this wiki"> <$select tiddl

[tw5] Re: <$select> and Web accessibility

steve, If accessibility primarily needs a tooltip - Perhaps using or upgrading the select widget to also use the following may be the best path - https://tiddlywiki.com/#tv-wikilink-tooltip%20Variable Alternatively what about placing along side your select widget an empty button with

[tw5] Re: <$select> and Web accessibility

OK, that would make sense. I think it might be relatively simple; just requires a tooltip perhaps. Would clonining https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fwidgets%2Fselect.js and then modifying it so that <$select-accessible> accepted a tooltip? Something like <$select-accessible

[tw5] Re: <$select> and Web accessibility

Steve, I do not know, but looking at an accessible version of the html tag may provide a start. Tony On Monday, March 4, 2019 at 7:44:07 AM UTC+11, st...@sunypoly.edu wrote: > > Hi, > > Would anyone know how to make the <$select> generate html that would meet > standard Web accessibility >

Re: [tw5] Variable not recognised in filter with enlist operator

Sorry, The Section Concatenating values for use in Macros and Widgets not only tries and explain it but provides methods. Tony On Monday, March 4, 2019 at 9:07:46 AM UTC+11, TonyM wrote: > > David, > > The Section not only tries and explain it but provides methods. > > Regards > Tony > > On Mon

Re: [tw5] Variable not recognised in filter with enlist operator

David, The Section not only tries and explain it but provides methods. Regards Tony On Monday, March 4, 2019 at 8:04:06 AM UTC+11, David Nebauer wrote: > > Thanks, Tony, for your suggestion and the pointer to your own notes. I see > your notes do state after an example of double curly braces in

[tw5] Re: [TW5-JsonManglerPlugin] v2.0.3 Update!

I can't answer. I learned this trick observing other plugin.info files. I was searching for a way to install plugins just once and serve all of my wikis. Unfortunately not all the plugins provide a node.js version as yours or if they do this is often not clearly documented or ready to use. I se

Re: [tw5] Variable not recognised in filter with enlist operator

Thanks, Tony, for your suggestion and the pointer to your own notes. I see your notes do state after an example of double curly braces in a filter that "no delimiters other than the curly braces; you can not 'concatenate' other values into the filter value here". Regards, David. On Mon, 4 Mar 201

[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

Looking great mark Sharing a link into tw from the google group conversation - the browser address bar is fab. Love your work Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[tw5] <$select> and Web accessibility

Hi, Would anyone know how to make the <$select> generate html that would meet standard Web accessibility requirements? Thanks, //steve. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To uns

Re: [tw5] Variable not recognised in filter with enlist operator

David, I can recomend systematic review of the documentation at tiddlywiki.com there is a lot of features and easter eggs to be found. The documention nessasarily is structured in a particular way, as a result people do structure alternate documents and share them so a search with tiddlywiki as

Re: [tw5] Why an Attribute's value set by <> & {{!!transclusion}} doesn't wikify

Jeremy, Thanks for the clarification. I hope as changes come to simplify contributions to the documentation we can start to offer some of this "soft guidence" to new and expirenced users a like and save them expieriencing time wasting grief we often hear voiced in gg. We also get to flag areas

[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

Hi Mark No, it didn't ask for any permissions here. In my case I had to allow install from unknown source, install, then go back to settings and give storage permission. I gave location permission too but I doubt you've had time to wizard that. Downloading empty test TWs works and files open in

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

*Tiddler Commander* New Update Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ * *Major update: 3rd March 2019* - New: selective operation - select all/ select none/ optionally select tiddlers - New: logging all operations - New: delete temp

[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

The Brw and Clp give visual reminders of which items have been selected for browsing or as clipboards. I greyed them out to indicate that they can't be clicked here. If my rusty memory serves, I chose to go this route with the long-press because if I made it edit in place (1. people would always

[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

Hi Watt, Thanks for letting me know it's working now. Did it ask you for permissions when you installed, or do you have to remember to grant permissions every time you install? If the latter, perhaps I need to add some notes to the readme. The problem is (one of the problems is) that Android h

[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

I got it working Mark, forgot to grant 'storage permission' to the new version! Having done that it opens fine. Downloaded a test empty tw- works. Long press on title lets me check browse andd clip - works. Sharing works! A bit jumpy, and some quirks but succeeded in sharing tiddly tweeter's co

[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

Ciao Mark S. This is just a comment--I'm neutral on the solution. The question: With advent of clippo-function is does the install need a Help Wiki built in? Or some link to instructions? At the moment I find myself having to read notes via my desktop to understand what to do on my dumb-arse-

[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

Ciao Mark S. Just started looking at it. Small design issue. Perhaps it should not indicate checkboxes in the main menu since you can't click them? They are set elsewhere. [image: Pixel20190303_174422.jpg] Just a thought Josiah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

Mohammad, This is another great idea! I'd just like to mention that VC control systems have this concept of a log also built in! With this idea and your other *fantastic* trash can idea, all towards an UNDO mechanism, your building the major parts of a serious VC system and I applaud you! On

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Hi Birthe, Thanks I got it! But seems there is no mechanism in TW5 and I have to remove all tags and store in a hidden filed! --Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 6:27:34 PM UTC+3:30, Birthe C wrote: > > Hi Mohammad, > > TWclassic used tag systemConfig. When trashed it becomes > systemConfigD

[tw5] Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

Hi Mark Old version uninstalled. Permission to install from unknown source granted. Android 7. Installed but won't open for me. Creates an icon and on press gives a bit of a flash, but nothing opens. Downloaded twice, same story. Thanks for your hardwork and perseverance, it's really appreciate

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Hi Mohammad, TWclassic used tag systemConfig. When trashed it becomes systemConfigDisable. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+uns

Re: [tw5] Variable not recognised in filter with enlist operator

That's great, Jeremy. It should help the next person who tries the same thing I did and gets desperate enough to look at the documentation! Regards, David. On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 00:04, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > I've added a clarifying note to the docs. > -- You received this message because yo

Re: [tw5] Variable not recognised in filter with enlist operator

Hi David I've added a clarifying note to the docs: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/148c1a03553a04ebb89d84bcbab09a4ff50616ea It'll take a few minutes for it to appear on tiddlywiki.com Best wishes Jeremy -- Jeremy Ruston jer...@jermolene.com https://jermolene.com > On 3 Mar 20

Re: [tw5] Variable not recognised in filter with enlist operator

Hmm, I didn't read the intro to filter notation that way, but I guess it's what the Filter Parameter tiddler is saying. Thanks again. Regards, David. On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 at 23:44, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > The main introduction to filter notation doesn'

Re: [tw5] Test for existence of macro

Hi David I wasn't suggesting that git was a universal solution, more that it's one of many techniques that users with different prior experience can use to manage multiple revisions of their files. Dropbox doesn't require any prior technical experience. TiddlyWiki's single file format means th

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

That is very kind of you Josiah! Actually I learn and get ideas from great people like you in this forum. --Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

> > Many thanks for your comments. --Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, sen

Re: [tw5] Variable not recognised in filter with enlist operator

The main introduction to filter notation doesn't explicitly say that nesting isn't allowed, but it may imply that it is allowed: https://tiddlywiki.com/#Introduction%20to%20filter%20notation The most hardcore documentation on this is the filter syntax railroad diagrams: https://tiddlywiki.com/#

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

Mohammad, You are a windmill of great things! Grazie, J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to thi

Re: [tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Hi Mohammad The trash can is an interesting idea, and there's certainly nothing like it in the core. The core does pack multiple tiddlers into a single JSON tiddler because that's what plugins are. We use the plugin format for some internal things, like the $:/Import tiddler, as well as the ob

Re: [tw5] Variable not recognised in filter with enlist operator

Thanks, Jeremy, for providing that solution, and so quickly. It solved my problem. I thought I looked through all the relevant TW documentation when I was troubleshooting, but I missed the bit about not being able to combine the effects of the [, { and < brackets in filters. For future referenc

Re: [tw5] Why an Attribute's value set by <> & {{!!transclusion}} doesn't wikify

Hi Tony There's a misunderstanding here. I'm not recommending using wikitext within tiddler titles, I'm pointing out that there's a whole class of errors that we get when people inadvertently do introduce wikitext markup into a title. A very common example would be to use a URL as a tiddler ti

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

FYI Mohammad The overhead of individual tiddlers is low since the header section is very small in bytes. The issue, that Mal pointed to, is that solo Tiddlers can do things that records in internal databases can't. But those issues are manageable. Also on the upside, the value of maintaining i

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

Hello Josih, At the moment is only for information. But it is in the wish list to save batch operations to repeat! It is not very difficult but needs coding! --Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 5:20:42 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Mohammad wrote: >> >> In Tiddler Commander, when wo

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

Mohammad wrote: > > In Tiddler Commander, when working with tiddlers (rename, delete, > add/remove fields), it creates a log tiddler on any > operation. > Its excellent. It brings up what a log is FOR? Is it for "information" only? Or can I choose an item from the log to re-populate TC again

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

Hello Tony! Thank you! I will make some experiment and will beck to you with my feedback. --Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 5:01:03 PM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote: > > Mohammad, > > Install attached in a Wiki and have a look. > > The key trick was putting more data in the value and keeping the k

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

Many Thanks! --Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 5:04:24 PM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote: > > PS, > > I have asked Joshua of JSON fame, to have a look at my suggestion to pack > and unpack multiple tiddlers in a single json tiddler, because I think this > can also help here. You could store before

[tw5] Re: [TW5-JsonManglerPlugin] v2.0.3 Update!

My actual post, for your convenience. Another idea would be to develop a method to move tiddlers into a json tiddler one of these would be on delete to $:/trash this mechanism would allow trash to be saved out and deleted or imported bach in. A related mechanism would be to select one or more t

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

PS, I have asked Joshua of JSON fame, to have a look at my suggestion to pack and unpack multiple tiddlers in a single json tiddler, because I think this can also help here. You could store before tiddlers in a permanent or temp location as well as drive copies of whole tiddlers into a log. (In

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

Mohammad, Install attached in a Wiki and have a look. The key trick was putting more data in the value and keeping the key as the data time stamp. See log here to see how the details of the log entry carry links to tiddlers. Regards Tony On Monday, March 4, 2019 at 12:13:59 AM UTC+11, Mohamma

Re: [tw5] Why an Attribute's value set by <> & {{!!transclusion}} doesn't wikify

Jeremy, I am interested in your view. I find catering for Wiki Text in titles a dangerous approach. After all in TiddlyWiki the tiddler is basically the primary key. The reason I find it particularly curious is we have captions, css, alternate fields and more to use it we really want titles to

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

Sure, please! I really eager to know how we can do this with minimum consequences on the whole Wiki. --Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 4:33:04 PM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote: > > Mohammad, > > I built a log system using a single data tiddler. Would you like me to > share that as an alternate met

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Maybe ask jeremy, I imagin there could even be and independant trash storage? Just speculation. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+u

Re: [tw5] Get Raw text output from Javascript macro

Hi Jeremy This is absolutely much better than the previous one I used. It works for me. Thank you Jeremy Cheers Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 4:15:33 PM UTC+3:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Hi Mohammad > > On 2 Mar 2019, at 20:23, Jeremy Ruston > > wrote: > > I’m afraid that goes back t

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

Mohammad, I built a log system using a single data tiddler. Would you like me to share that as an alternate method? Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Thanks Tony! I take a look ! --Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 4:28:30 PM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote: > > A quick note, > > Noteself also has version control. Perhaps the new local storage plugin > could be adapted to do versons. This would have the advantage you could > easily back out of a la

[tw5] Re: [TW5-JsonManglerPlugin] v2.0.3 Update!

Joshua, With you json skills, could you consider mus suggestions in this thread please https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/ThFUZWIy11A Tiddler to json tiddler and return tools. Thanks Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ti

Re: [tw5] Why an Attribute's value set by <> & {{!!transclusion}} doesn't wikify

Hi SS Your title is correct: transcluded attributes are not wikified, they use the raw text of the variable or field. That’s done because wikification is slow. Meanwhile, we *do* wikify when making a freestanding transclusion. It’s a major source of irritation to me that we have such a fundamen

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

A quick note, Noteself also has version control. Perhaps the new local storage plugin could be adapted to do versons. This would have the advantage you could easily back out of a large change. Just food for thought, but maybe too big a reach. Tony -- You received this message because you are

Re: [tw5] Get Raw text output from Javascript macro

Hi Mohammad > On 2 Mar 2019, at 20:23, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > I’m afraid that goes back to something we’ve discussed before: there isn’t a > way to get the results of a macrocall widget into a variable without > wikification: Of course, I gave up too early. Here’s a method that works in the

Re: [tw5] Variable not recognised in filter with enlist operator

Hi David In filters you can’t combine the effect of the [, { and < brackets. Instead you’d have to extract the field value as a separate operation. Try this (I’ve changed the tiddler and field names so that it works on tiddlywiki.com ): <$set name="datasource" value="Co

[tw5] Re: Idea: Log tiddlers

This is a report of sample log tiddlers Clear log Recent operation: 10 processed *2019-03-03 15:44:07 remove-old-tag-bulk * 1. Tid002-df old tag yy removed 2. Tid003-df old tag yy removed 3. Tid004-df old tag yy removed 4. Tid005-df old tag yy removed 5

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Thank you Mal, I go through both of theme and write you back. --Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 3:46:42 PM UTC+3:30, Mal wrote: > > Mohammad, > > My version control plugin uses a similar technique to what you are > proposing, but the end result is a bit different. It depends on the > ori

[tw5] Idea: Log tiddlers

In Tiddler Commander, when working with tiddlers (rename, delete, add/remove fields), it creates a log tiddler on any operation. A log tiddler here is a conventional tiller has special tag and title and includes a timestamp and list of tiddlers undergone an operation (like delete). The problem he

[tw5] Variable not recognised in filter with enlist operator

The following displays the items from the *myfield* field in the *MyTiddler* tiddler: <$list filter="[enlist{*MyTiddler*!!myfield}]" variable="field-item"> <> This, which I expect to be exactly equivalent, displays nothing: <$set name="datasource" value="MyTiddler"> <$list filter="[enlist{*

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Mohammad, My version control plugin uses a similar technique to what you are proposing, but the end result is a bit different. It depends on the original tiddler still existing to provide the interface for showing the saved versions. There is also JD's version control plugin (sorry, I'm replyi

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Thnaks Eric, One question: I did not understood from TrashPlugin how does it it handle system tags (the point raised by Mal). --Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 11:30:38 AM UTC+3:30, Eric Shulman wrote: > > On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 10:29:06 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote: >> >> Trash bin >>

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Hi Tony, I dont know how to pack tiddlers inside a JSON tiddler! I would appreciate of you explain me. Furthermore, the size is always a concern, I think your solution may results in a smaller wiki size! --Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 12:05:29 PM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote: > > Mohammad, >

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Mal, Many thanks for your suggestion. One question, do you recommend the version control plugin? Or you propose something else. Also, you pointed out to an important fact! The tiddlers with system tags like $:/tags/Macro are alive even changed their title. --Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 a

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Josiah, Thanks for the endorsement. Mohammad, When you change the name, you will probably need to add a timestamp in case another tiddler with the same name is subsequently deleted. You will probably also need to change the names of the other fields because they might have some functionality

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

On how an UNDO system in s-n-r might work ... one thought is NOT to backup all s-n-r change. Often its not needed and gets too complex. Rather there is auto-clone to version/trash on FIRST open. On subsequent runs where that tiddler is still being worked on there is a button for "TAKE SNAPSHOT

[tw5] Re: SNR: Search and Replace in Tiddler Fields

Many Thanks! Yes, I checked and it seems `>` break the codes! I will have look to see how I can fixed it. Cheers Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 2:43:54 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Ciao Mohammad > > I'll do lots of testing of SNR2 on http://kookma.tiddlyspot.com/ and > report b

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Thank you all! My plan is to have this feature ONLY in Tiddler Commander and I like to have the minimum coding! I will try to study the proposed solution and see how can I implement a suitable one in TC. Cheers Mohammad On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 11:30:38 AM UTC+3:30, Eric Shulman wrote: > >

[tw5] Re: SNR: Search and Replace in Tiddler Fields

Ciao Mohammad I'll do lots of testing of SNR2 on http://kookma.tiddlyspot.com/ and report back. It looks very good and very powerful! The is one BUG I found already. You can easily see it. Just enter ">" in the search box and it breaks the script like this... [image: {4F3AC098-4005-4D1D-B466

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Ciao Mohammad For serious UNDO ... why not just use the mechanism of one of the Version Control systems we have already? Mal's is a very good example... http://malsandbox.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fmalgam%2Fversion-control This would allow multiple levels of undo. And would also pro

[tw5] Re: [TW5-JsonManglerPlugin] v2.0.3 Update!

That is really neat, I had no idea you could do that. Will the server pick up any correctly formatted raw Json object w/ !!title, etc? Or only those in the plugin folder with *.info extentions? That deserves some testing and reading the source. Best, Joshua Fontany On Friday, March 1, 2019 at

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

Mohammad, Another idea would be to develop a method to move tiddlers into a json tiddler one of these would be on delete to $:/trash this mechanisium would allow trash to be saved out and deleted or imported bach in. A related mechanisium would be to select one or more tiddlers inside a json an

[tw5] Re: The Trash bin idea

On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 10:29:06 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote: > > Trash bin > For some ideas from the TWClassic world, see here: http://www.tiddlytools.com/#TrashPlugin -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from t