[tw5] Re: Hide non-system tiddler non-system tags non-system fields

2019-09-29 Thread Mohammad
Hi Mark, This is great! I appreciate if you kindly share the modified tiddler! --Mohammad On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 10:37:51 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote: > > Hi Mohammad, > > > By modifying two core tiddlers, you could filter your tags as presented in > the edit template. A select widget

[tw5] Re: Task: Filter all tiddlers created between 01.09.2019 and 15.09.2019. How/where to find information/documentation to get this task done?

2019-09-29 Thread 'Cd.K' via TiddlyWiki
TonyM Enough for today. I'm finally getting on with the blanks-rule. I stumbled across a bug in the firefox debugger that cost me a lot of time. But my understanding of the inner workings of TiddlyWiki has grown. Regards Cd.K On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 5:02:03 PM UTC+2, Cd.K wrote:

[tw5] Re: Bob Is Unhappy - Hundreds of Attempts to Read fields of undefined

2019-09-29 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I think I can force it to happen. - Starting from a happy Bob session in Firefox. - Stop and start my Apache reverse proxy. That puts the "WARNING: You are no longer connected to the server" banner on the browser. - Tail the Tiddlywiki logs. No lines are being written to the log

[tw5] Production bundles for the web

2019-09-29 Thread Arlen Beiler
Hello everyone, As some of you know, TiddlyServer uses a "bundled" version of TiddlyWiki intended to improve startup times and reduce file count. I've finally gotten my build script to the point that I am confident that it works right and I've uploaded the bundles to GitHub in two formats -- the

[tw5] Re: Bob Is Unhappy - Hundreds of Attempts to Read fields of undefined

2019-09-29 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
It happens after I click the reconnect button. When I tail the log file, things look OK at first. Then, something causes a disconnect. The log file still looks OK. Then I press the reconnect button, and Bob goes into his stuck record routine, showing the websocket error over and over again.

[tw5] Re: Bob Is Unhappy - Hundreds of Attempts to Read fields of undefined

2019-09-29 Thread TonyM
Kevin I can't help you on this except to suggest you need to describe the context, when, what, how, were you doing the last thing can you repeat it?, are you trying something "special". Regards Tony On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 10:30:57 AM UTC+10, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > > Bob is

[tw5] Bob Is Unhappy - Hundreds of Attempts to Read fields of undefined

2019-09-29 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Bob is deeply unhappy. He's said so 93,494 times this weekend. (I counted.) Here's how he puts it: saved file with metadata /usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki/Wikis/pkb/tiddlers/Connecting to Boxtop3.md WebSocket error: TypeError: Cannot read property 'fields' of undefined at

[tw5] Re: Conference announcement: Collaboration on Google Groups

2019-09-29 Thread TonyM
Watt Thanks for this initiative which I support whole heartedly. Before any alternative is discussed we should try and leverage our existing tools. I think the best way to proceed is to use the metaphore of a conference. Many here will I imagin be familiar. I suggest time frames and calendar

[tw5] Re: Hide non-system tiddler non-system tags non-system fields

2019-09-29 Thread PMario
On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 8:23:37 PM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote: > > Hi Mario, > I got the point edit the related template and hide them by modifying the > filters! > I think, I'm OK with Mark's example, if there is a visual hint, that some of the information is "hidden". So users that only

[tw5] Re: Hide non-system tiddler non-system tags non-system fields

2019-09-29 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Mohammad, By modifying two core tiddlers, you could filter your tags as presented in the edit template. A select widget would let you pick which group you wanted to see. That was the simplest solution I could come up with. It's something I've been thinking about for awhile, since it's

Re: [tw5] TiddlyChrome is back

2019-09-29 Thread Arlen Beiler
TiddlyChrome is a chrome extension/app that will open a TiddlyWiki file and then allow you to edit it like you used to be able to with TiddlyFox. When you open the app it pops up a dialog box asking which file you want to open, and then once you select it it is able to edit that file directly. On

[tw5] Re: Hide non-system tiddler non-system tags non-system fields

2019-09-29 Thread Mohammad
Hi Mario, I got the point edit the related template and hide them by modifying the filters! --Mohammad On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 1:39:52 PM UTC+3:30, PMario wrote: > > Hi, > > With the current filter syntax, imo it's not needed to create "hidden > tags" ... If you need a filter option

[tw5] Re: Bob - Anti-conflict, Data NOT Lost

2019-09-29 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Since the silent failure to save updates looks like it only happens on the initial connect, perhaps it would be simple to 'just' invoke the existing "WARNING: You are no longer connected to the server" if the initial websocket connect times out? (My wife says that 'just' means, "I'm going to

[tw5] Re: Conference announcement: Collaboration on Google Groups

2019-09-29 Thread Watt
Thanks for the response Cd.K, I'll definitely have a look at Blender and add points here if I can. Thanks for the input. I'm still collecting any thoughts on collaboration successes, failures and all points in between, as experienced by users here on google groups. Everything counts so please

[tw5] Re: Hide non-system tiddler non-system tags non-system fields

2019-09-29 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Tony! Well I agree with you that the core should be kept as simple and light as possible (low in kb). I am sure you have the experience of high entropy when a wiki gets bigger and bigger! I asked to see if a simple solution is available! Hopefuly for fields we have the possibility to

[tw5] Re: Transclusion:macro or template

2019-09-29 Thread Mohammad
Great idea! Thanks Tony! I like the currentTiddler as default parameter value, this simplify things. On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 2:57:36 PM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote: > > I agree with Mario's approach but add such macros can be designed to use > defaults like current tiddler but allow

[tw5] Re: Transclusion:macro or template

2019-09-29 Thread Mohammad
Sometimes it is part of a plugin! Sometimes it is hidden! I know I can use simple name, but assume for some reason it is not possible! On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 6:53:25 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote: > > Why do you have to use a long name? $:/tpcode > > > On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at

[tw5] Re: Transclusion:macro or template

2019-09-29 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Why do you have to use a long name? $:/tpcode On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 12:06:55 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote: > > I want to transclude a tiddler or different part of tiddler! I normally > use template > > So, for example > I want to show the content of a tiddler say myTiddler I use

[tw5] Re: Task: Filter all tiddlers created between 01.09.2019 and 15.09.2019. How/where to find information/documentation to get this task done?

2019-09-29 Thread 'Cd.K' via TiddlyWiki
Hi TonyM, I'm back. Regards Cd.K On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 9:32:27 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote: > > We did wander. > > I will open a new thread with the help of CdK when back at a desktop. > Thanks > Tony > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[tw5] Re: Conference announcement: Collaboration on Google Groups

2019-09-29 Thread 'Cd.K' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Watt, I honestly don't think that GG is suitable for the efficient organization of collaboration. Take a look at the website of this open source, tightly organized and successfull community: *Blender**.* Register there (get involved ) and find out

[tw5] Re: Hide non-system tiddler non-system tags non-system fields

2019-09-29 Thread TonyM
Mohammad In keeping with Mario's viewpoint and given my own musings can I suggest if you want to hide something you use the existing mechanisium as using the $:/ system namespace. Yes we need a way to reduce the inconsistencies in tiddlywiki but this is a big enough change to make it a plugin

[tw5] Re: Hide non-system tiddler non-system tags non-system fields

2019-09-29 Thread TonyM
Mario I understand where you are coming from. There is a reasonable argument to keep this open in the standard distribution to keep things obvious yet tiddlywiki already hides things only experts can find and at other times is inconsistent Tiddlywiki standard distribution has decided to hide

[tw5] Re: Progress report: Searchin high n low

2019-09-29 Thread TonyM
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[tw5] Re: Transclusion:macro or template

2019-09-29 Thread TonyM
I agree with Mario's approach but add such macros can be designed to use defaults like current tiddler but allow tiddlername to be provided. You can introduce config switches, modes and default filters yet also allow these to be overridden. For example I have a macro called field and its

[tw5] Re: Hide non-system tiddler non-system tags non-system fields

2019-09-29 Thread PMario
Hi, With the current filter syntax, imo it's not needed to create "hidden tags" ... If you need a filter option you can use a "tag-like" field with the contains operator. Those fields are "not system tags" they are "no tiddlers". ... imo problem solved. You may know, that I'm _no_ fan of

[tw5] Re: Transclusion:macro or template

2019-09-29 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Mario! --Mohammad On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 11:42:40 AM UTC+3:30, PMario wrote: > > Hi, > > I think, it depends a little bit on your personal preferences. ... Less > typing is definitely an advantage for the macro approach. > > One more advantage is, that you can "globally"

[tw5] Hide non-system tiddler non-system tags non-system fields

2019-09-29 Thread TonyM
Mohammad I agree a simple filter should should change both the edit tags a tagpill drop down so you can hide system tags, or specific tags after design. They could also be hidden on the view template as well. However I was thinking the opposite could be true. The standard search ignores

Re: [tw5] Re: clearing out search field on reload

2019-09-29 Thread Ste Wilson
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[tw5] Re: Conference announcement: Collaboration on Google Groups

2019-09-29 Thread Watt
Rather than just 'bump' this I thought it would be more productive to look through previous threads for collaboration questions and ideas. I'm still trying to avoid discussion of the ideas just yet, hoping to collect more responses and ideas first, so please do chip in any ideas, problems,

[tw5] Re: Transclusion:macro or template

2019-09-29 Thread PMario
Hi, I think, it depends a little bit on your personal preferences. ... Less typing is definitely an advantage for the macro approach. One more advantage is, that you can "globally" change the behavior of the macro. So you only need to change your transclusion calls in 1 place. Macros have

[tw5] Re: Task: Filter all tiddlers created between 01.09.2019 and 15.09.2019. How/where to find information/documentation to get this task done?

2019-09-29 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Tony! I think the discussion if fruitful and it worth to have a dedicated thread for later reference! --Mohammad On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 11:02:27 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote: > > We did wander. > > I will open a new thread with the help of CdK when back at a desktop. > Thanks >

[tw5] Re: Task: Filter all tiddlers created between 01.09.2019 and 15.09.2019. How/where to find information/documentation to get this task done?

2019-09-29 Thread TonyM
We did wander. I will open a new thread with the help of CdK when back at a desktop. Thanks Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: node TW upgrade weirdness

2019-09-29 Thread Jed Carty
To answer your other question, yes we have made significant progress on the secure wiki front, we are working on a setup where you just run one script that installs everything then you open the wiki for the first time and it brings you through a setup wizard for all the configuration. My

[tw5] Re: node TW upgrade weirdness

2019-09-29 Thread Jed Carty
Sorry, I didn't say that well, this isn't a Bob thing so my documentation isn't going to help here. When you install tiddlywiki globally it makes it so that typing 'tiddlywiki' anywhere is the same as typing 'node tiddlywiki.js' in the folder where it is installed globally. So in your case

[tw5] use template: lesson from Tobias Beer

2019-09-29 Thread Mohammad
Sometimes you have a template for example in a plugin with a long name like $:/plugins/publisher/plugin-name/template/show-raw-content Tobias proposed to create a new tiddler with a friendly and small name and use it *Example* Create a new tiddler with title like: *tpcode* Text:

[tw5] Hide non-system tiddler non-system tags non-system fields

2019-09-29 Thread Mohammad
- I have bunch of tiddlers they are not system tiddlers - I have bunch of tags they are not system tags I know for fields is known how to hide them from users, but the problem is with tiddlers and tags! Sometimes in large wiki, you like to hide tiddlers tags from drop down menus, recent

[tw5] Transclusion:macro or template

2019-09-29 Thread Mohammad
I want to transclude a tiddler or different part of tiddler! I normally use template So, for example I want to show the content of a tiddler say myTiddler I use template-code tiddler as below {{myTiddler||$:/utility/template-code}} I can also wrap the content of $:/utility/template-code in a

[tw5] Re: Task: Filter all tiddlers created between 01.09.2019 and 15.09.2019. How/where to find information/documentation to get this task done?

2019-09-29 Thread Mohammad
Hi Tony, The title of this thread is misleading! I would recommend to start a new thread on period case! --Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email