[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Hi Mark, Yabadoo...I got two blog posts from you. When I tried to fetch blogpost from all, I got everything from Jed and nothing from you. But fetching from your card onlysuccess. I have commented, so maybe you will be able to get it. I have only had one success doing that...by pure chance.

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Trying to fetch all messages or all blogs will pretty unfailingly give me the red screen with something about iframe. I think it is hiccuping because it's reading my own card, but not sure. Is the "-" on the various view messages supposed to allow you to see all? There doesn't seem to be any

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Birthe and Mark, If I understand, there's currently an issue in that fetching stuff "simultaneously" makes them collide so that not everything comes through properly. I think it can be compared to several people uploading at once to a site - only the latest is what ends up there. The Jedi maste

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Hi Mark, I am surprised, that you seem to see things, I do not after installing twederation. When I ask for all twCards I do not get any from Mat, I do get the ones listed http://twederation.tiddlyspot.com/#Wiki%20Listing. Admittedly I have on

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Hi Jed, Please remove my card for twederation.html -- installed next gen as twederation2.html. As I mentioned, I could see a bundle coming in from Mat that obviously had lots of text in it. But have no idea where to look. It may have been a much older message, since I could see creation dates

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Plugins not polygons. Damm you auto correct. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

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As a non tech tinkerer I followed the link and had a go. I think I ended up setting up my tiddlywiki from inside jeds. Not sure what polygons I need to drag across to my tiddlywiki. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe

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Unfortunately it isn't wizardry on my side, it was just random chance that the comment from me was one of the bundles that made it thourgh without colliding. I am working on the problem but haven't fixed it yet. I am very excited about all of this. -- You received this message because you are

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Hi Jed, You were right, I could not fetch your comment to my blogpost. That is until a few minutes ago! It feels so lovely to see it work. Thank you! For the fun of it I commented your comment, now we will have to see about that ;-) Birthe On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 9:38:14 AM UTC+2, Jed Cart

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Birthe, Thank you! I saw that you made a post and commented on one. It worked with a bit of poking and I think I know where the problems are now. From a helping out point of view you did exactly what you should do. I responded to your comment so if you want to see if you can get that you could

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

To be clear because people are using old versions, you have to use the version from http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/TWederation/ apparently some people are trying to use other versions which won't work. Mark, You are the third or 4th person, including me and Mat, to try this out so there i

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Hi Mat, I tried to fetch all twCards, and got 3 x twederation and 2 undefined. Nothing really to fetch. So I really do not know how to continue. I did not see any twcCards or material from you, Mat. I did not experience any errors, as Mark described. Following one of the undefined - but link on

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 1:36:23 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: > > The interface is nicer, but I still don't seem to be able to pick up any > blogs or messages. > I'm not sure there are any good places to pick up from (or what do you say @Jed?). So far the other TWs are mostly stuff for testing,

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Hi Jed, I'm going to play with this when I get time. Have you looked at Neocities as a hosting option? They have https by default and a generous free tier. The guy who runs it is pretty forthright in his support of a free and open web - he is even integrating his site with ipfs. If it works a

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

The interface is nicer, but I still don't seem to be able to pick up any blogs or messages. There are occasional red embarrassment messages, though not sure about a consistent pattern yet. I was able to bring in a bundle from Mat's Place using 'messages'. The bundle was called "Default" witho

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

I have made a bit of progress with this, now it should be much easier to figure out how to set things up. The problem with http vs https is still there, so hosting on dropbox isn't going to work out well unless you have some way to get around this problem. I am sure that it will take about 30 s

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Comment about bundles. After you have more than a half dozen bundles, it starts becoming difficult to tell which ones are new -- unless you're into memorizing 12 digit numbers on the fly. The date format seems weird -- a reverse of the time stamp which means that you can't depend on the newest

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

More feedback: *1. Required* - accept the pre-filled information or adjust it My form was not pre-filled. Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an ema

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But I got the TW from your first post in this thread! Do you have a process for updating one's twederation? Or do we start from scratch? Hopefully you got my request to be on the list -- I had it bounce out twice this AM. Thanks, Mark On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 8:42:33 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty w

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Mark, In addition to what Mat said about us being in the middle of updating things, it looks like you have an old version. The blank line is supposed to be your card but because of some bugs it isn't put in the correct place for your version. You can try getting what is on http://ooktech.com/j

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Hi Mark. The TWederation pieces are currently under reworking/restructuring so there is much that has to be improved and corrected. It is not functional yet as you note but it is *really* great to see that you're interested in testing out stuff! <:-) -- You received this message because yo

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Suggestion: Until the process is automated, add a contact email address next to the "list admin" so that it's clearer that something is required of the user. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Posting. In messages/short messages the drop down to and from show - Inmysocks I don't see my own card (?) to use for the from, and there are no other cards/labels to "send" to. Looking through the tiddlers, I see only inmysocks as an identity tiddler, though there are cards for other part

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

I see that "twederation" shows up 3 times on the communcation list, probably because the url is in 3 forms http://twederation.tiddlyspot.com/ http://twederation.tiddlyspot.com twederation.tiddlyspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWik

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Well, I've followed the steps, but can't seem to find a single post. Under posts, only inmysocks is showing up, but no associated posts. In Fetch Communications I can see Mat and others. I also see Twederation posted multiple times, so not sure what that's about. When I try to select all bundl

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

If you are online yes it can. The only problem is that a wiki hosted on an https server can't pull from non-https sources without something else. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving e

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

But can your federated desktop TW fetch from the external http:// TW's ? Thanks, Mark On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 12:20:35 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote: > > If by fetching from the desktop you mean local file:// urls then yes, it > works with them. > -- You received this message because you ar

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Hi. There are free certificates now from https://letsencrypt.org/getting-started/ – From their website: Let’s Encrypt is a free, automated, and open certificate authority brought to you by the non-profit Internet Security Research Group (ISRG). In Switzerland we have providers offering such ce

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If by fetching from the desktop you mean local file:// urls then yes, it works with them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Since it's only fetching, Is there a way to make it fetch from the desktop? Then you could fetch tiddlers, edit, and repost to dropbox or wherever. If everyone ends up at tiddlyspot, on the same server, it's not really all that distributed, is it? Thanks, Mark On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 1:2

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Usually it's no biggie to turn on https -- the problem comes if you want a certified SSL. Without certification, each user has to tell his browser (which, if FF, will complain loudly) that he/she will accept the uncertified communication. The certificates used to run around $100 a year -- for t

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Jed Carty wrote: > > It can't open the iframe when hosted in dropbox, this is because dropbox > uses https and my sites and tiddlyspot do not. Unfortunately if this is the > case than the two biggest places where people will be hosting wikis won't > be able to talk to each other since it looks l

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

It can't open the iframe when hosted in dropbox, this is because dropbox uses https and my sites and tiddlyspot do not. Unfortunately if this is the case than the two biggest places where people will be hosting wikis won't be able to talk to each other since it looks like dropbox and tiddlyspot

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

No problem, please do let me know of your progress. I'm keen to see this thing working. I'm happy to either apply any fixes you suggest, or just trash my current one and start again. Whatever will get it going properly. Hegart. On Thursday, 26 May 2016 23:04:35 UTC+12, Jed Carty wrote: > > I a

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

I am not sure why it isn't fetching bundles correctly. My best guess is that there is some problem with the https vs http interaction. Which is going to be annoying. The tiddler listed there has the wrong name, there are two of them, $:/SitetwCard and $:/SiteAuthor, although the second one did

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Okay, thanks for that Jed. I still don't seem to have a *$:/twCard* tiddler yet in my wiki, and following the next steps to get the bundle of All Wiki twCards doesn't seem to work yet either. Hegart. On Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:11:07 UTC+12, Jed Carty wrote: > > It did everything it was supp

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

It did everything it was supposed to do, it just doesn't do it visibly. I will have to add some visible indication. You are listed in the google sheet and now and on the twederation.tiddlyspot.com Although it looks like there was something wrong with the name because you are named 'undefined'. I

[tw] Re: [TW5] TWederation edition progress

Hi Jed, I've finally gotten around to having a go with the Tiddlyverse. My test wiki is called Twederation Test Hegart Dmishiv . I've filled in the form, but clicking on the "Create twCard" button doesn't seem t