[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

I added this to the toolmap, under 'Writing and editing - transclusion' (see https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM) On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 11:21:33 PM UTC-5, zemoxian wrote: > > I played around a bit and came up with a little demo. > > http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/#PE%3Aparagraph%20edi

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Wow this is a fascinating concept. FYI there is a link, " Here is a tiddler linked to from another:. New Tiddler 1 ", and clicking it does nothing. David Gifford Mexico team leader, Mexico City *Resonate Global Mission* *Engaging People. Embracing

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 7:21:21 AM UTC-4, Vytas wrote: > > Hello TiddlyWiki enthusiasts, > > I have recently discovered TiddlyWiki and here I have question: > > Is it in principle possible to somehow tag selected paragraphs of a text > within a tiddler, so that it would be later possible

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

I played around a bit and came up with a little demo. http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/#PE%3Aparagraph%20edit Probably a bit more complicated than needed. But you can edit and rearrange a list of sub-tiddlers. If I were to make 1 addition it would be an editor toolbar. On Saturday, April 7, 2018

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 7:53:48 PM UTC+9, Vytas wrote: > > @JD > > In the process of enabling myself to customize your wonderful *paragraphs* > macro, I have analysed the code of it (actually, since I'm a newbie, it > took me a decent amount of effort). I'm glad I was able to more or less >

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Hi Mark, Vytas, and others Thanks for the responses. My comment last night was not meant to criticize you, Mark, or your effort. I probably shouldn't post after 10pm, as it can come out wrong. My comment wasn't meant to be hate for what you did, but love for outliners. After years of notetaking in

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

One persons note book is anothers data collection repository and tiddlywiki then lets you analyse, structure, automate, turn into a database, refactor, print, define custom views, import export, extend, parse. Notebooks are so last millenium. Notebooks are dead, long live the notebook (in t

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Side note: One major point with TW is "the next 25 years" i.e that TW relies on very basic tech so your data will still be easily accessible for quite some time. When you bring in Dynalist and other services you are, AFAICT, back out on the same ol' thin ice that many of us try to leave behind

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

@JD In the process of enabling myself to customize your wonderful *paragraphs* macro, I have analysed the code of it (actually, since I'm a newbie, it took me a decent amount of effort). I'm glad I was able to more or less understand it. Just one small question. If I get it correctly, you don't

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 6:07:55 PM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote: > > > 1) Unless I am mistaken, this doesn't improve that much on using the new > here button with the table of contents. You just title the child tiddler > before creating, whereas with the new here button you do the same in

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Hi Mark Sorry to be the sourpuss on this one. 1) Unless I am mistaken, this doesn't improve that much on using the new here button with the table of contents. You just title the child tiddler before creating, whereas with the new here button you do the same in the opposite order. It is slightly e

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

I should probably post this in a separate thread, "TW-Flowy" This version works mostly. Create a global macro tiddler and insert: \define tagascurrent() [[$(currentTiddler)$]] \define draft() Draft of '$(currentTiddler)$' \define draftcreated() Draft of '$(currentTiddler)$'!!created \define draft

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Hey Tony, I'm going to run with your ideas and have started to play around with the TOC macros...! On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 7:29:54 AM UTC+9, TonyM wrote: > > JD, > > I am not sure about the full blown part, but outline yes. > > This difficulty between composing large texts and the tiddler

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

David, I understand the value in picking the tool you need but I think this may actually be a gap we need to fill in TiddlyWiki. Even a rudimentary outliner, to help bridge the gap between tiddler and texts (in the book sense). Regards Tony On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 11:25:53 PM UTC+10, Da

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

JD, I am not sure about the full blown part, but outline yes. This difficulty between composing large texts and the tiddler as the basic unit is a common stumbling block for newbies, until they understand the model they do create large tiddlers, then come to the forum asking questions how to d

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Mark, I remember we had this conversation on another thread when I brought up Anki as well lol. I'd summarize that, IMO, if you buy into the TW philosophy that its your external brain - that you place all information that is somewhat important to you into TW - it only makes sense that it woul

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

I'm not as convinced with Anki. Anki is already free, open-source, and well-written. Your data may be kept in the cloud, but unless you're a spy no one is going to be interested in your language study progress. How about a bookmark app that you could take with you? Especially if it were possibl

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

I 100% agree with you Mark that a Dynalist built into TW would be a killer app. I also think the same about Anki, and am working with Simon to achieve that as well! If we could get one or two killer, easy to use and easy to follow "applications" built into TW like that, I think it will do much

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Workflowy looks like it decided to rest on it's laurels before it had any. For the price of Dynalist, you could get two subscriptions to Evernote. None of the cloud-based services seem to promise client-side encryption. An outlining tool built on TW might be the killer app (edition) for TW tha

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Haha! 😅 Oh well... sometimes the tool creation is as exciting as the use of the tool itself, at least for me. I get to know Tiddlywiki more with all these toying around. On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 10:25:53 PM UTC+9, David Gifford wrote: > > Seems like a lot of effort when there are better to

Re: [tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Seems like a lot of effort when there are better tools for writing and outlining, like Dynalist or Workflowy. David Gifford Mexico team leader, Mexico City *Resonate Global Mission* *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.* A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church resonateglobalmission.org On Tue

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Hi Tony, you mean, like a full-blown outline, right? If that's so, I think, maybe, we can use the TOC template for this. And instead of transcluding the title, we transclude the body of the text (while still following the tag-tree structure). What do you think? My contribution in this will be

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Stephen, I suppose in some ways it could be but given this can be done with macros not plugins and not Javascript it is more likely to provide info regular users can use. Of late even some serious technical issues that I would have thought belonged in the Dev group can be found here. Regards

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Am Dienstag, 10. April 2018 02:17:59 UTC+2 schrieb TonyM: > > JD, > > Should we be using a new thread to collaborate otherwise we are somewhat > hijacking the thread? > Isn't this something for the TiddlyWikiDev group? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

JD, Should we be using a new thread to collaborate otherwise we are somewhat hijacking the thread? Of note is I am using filters such as "[tag[WhitePaper]]" where it would be nice to either include all tiddlers tagged by the tiddlers that are tagged by WhitePaper like the Table of Contents mac

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Hey Tony, I was thinking of adding "subtiddler" as another optional parameter, then going along these lines: <$list filter="$filter$" variable="parItem"> <$transclude tiddler=<> subtiddler="$subtiddler$"/> As you can see, I'm not quite imaginative enough to think of more than that 😅. Please do

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

JD, I just tried this and it is very helpful. Thanks for the demo. I just applied it to a list of issues (items tagged Issues) and realised It would be helpful to list the sub tiddlers. I have more ideas and some ideas about how to approach it, if you were to develop it further but as you say

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Thanks Vytas! You might want to update your copy of the macro. I just added an action to the save and cancel buttons that will automatically delete the temporary tiddlers created. for your reference: http://j.d.paragraphs.tiddlyspot.com/ On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 9:14:25 PM UTC+9, Vytas wrot

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Hey thanks! I think this is similar to Mat's concept! I'm looking forward to his SuperTiddlers release 🤩 On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 10:43:24 PM UTC+9, David Gifford wrote: > > This is so cool I just added it to the TiddlyWiki toolmap under 'Writing > and editing - transclusion' > > On Saturd

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

This is so cool I just added it to the TiddlyWiki toolmap under 'Writing and editing - transclusion' On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 11:09:28 PM UTC-5, JD wrote: > > I hastily created a wordy little macro that does the same thing, before I > read your post, and now I feel stupid lol > > Still, I

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Stephan, thank you for replying to my questions! zemoxian, your "barebones template" seems to be easy, but contains a lot! JD, your paragraphs macro looks really nice. I find it very convenient, the way the edit-window replaces the view-window of the paragraph and at the same time you retain th

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Interrim step (at least for what I'm aiming for) \define qualstate() <> \define transedit() <$set name=currlist value="[tag]"> <$list filter=<> variable="theTiddler"> <$wikify name=state text=<>> <$reveal type="nomatch" state=<> text="show"> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink" set=<>

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Stephan Hradek wrote: > > > But I think you're making it too complicated. > > Remember what I wrote? The "3 tiddler" are just one string which is used > as a filter. So why not use your filter instead of using the filter to > create a string and then using that string again as a filter? Want to

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Am Sonntag, 8. April 2018 03:57:11 UTC+2 schrieb Mat: > > Then, to almost automatically create articles, put this in a conditional > viewtemplate > . This > means that all (and only) tiddlers tagged e.g "article" will show th

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

I hastily created a wordy little macro that does the same thing, before I read your post, and now I feel stupid lol Still, I created a demo for the "paragraphs" macro, as seen here http://j.d.test2.tiddlyspot.com/ But the navigator widget(?) method does look cleaner On Sunday, April 8, 2018

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Here's a barebones template to start from: <$navigator story="PE:story" history="PE:history"> {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/new-tiddler}} <$list filter="[list[PE:story]]" template="$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate" editTemplate="$:/core/ui/EditTemplate" emptyMessage={{$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage}} /> You can

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

You could combine a navigator widget with a list widget and a couple of templates to manipulate multiple tiddlers from one tiddler. This is actually how the story works in the PageTemplate. I've done this in the past while fiddling with stuff. The navigator widget handles manipulation of the

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Stephan - terrific stuff! Mark S. wrote: > > It's a very clever re-factoring of existing abilities, though. Maybe an > additional example in the "templates" part of the documentation would be in > order. > Not sure it is a "re-factoring" as much as an understanding: I thought the prerequisite

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

This sounds similar to slices in TW2. I used to add slices like Description: *description of tiddler* Then just the description could be transcluded in other tiddlers. You could also transcluded sections using header titles. The slices functionality seems to have been moved to data tiddlers i

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

I'd like to pause for a second here - this could be a really really cool way to mirror something like wikipedia's edit capabilities where you can edit sections of something. On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 4:32:39 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote: > > It's a very clever re-factoring of existing abilities,

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

It's a very clever re-factoring of existing abilities, though. Maybe an additional example in the "templates" part of the documentation would be in order. Thanks! Mark On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 2:02:57 PM UTC-7, Stephan Hradek wrote: > > > > Am Samstag, 7. April 2018 19:27:14 UTC+2 schrieb

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Am Samstag, 7. April 2018 19:27:14 UTC+2 schrieb Mark S.: > > I had no idea that you could apply a template to more than one tiddler at > a time. Is this in the documentation some place? > See my reply above: I simply provide just one tiddler title, which happens to look like 3, to trans-edit.

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Am Samstag, 7. April 2018 17:06:12 UTC+2 schrieb JD: > > This is really cool! > > I'd go with the reveal-widget (instead of a modal) to edit the paragraphs > in place, unless there's a con to that method? > I didn't use reveal because I got the feeling that it'll be too much code. But I might

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Am Samstag, 7. April 2018 14:56:19 UTC+2 schrieb Vytas: > > > {{[[A]][[B]][[C]]||trans-edit}} > it brings the titles A, B and C as values to the "trans-edit" piece of > code, > Nope. It brings "[[A]][[B]][[C]]" as one tiddler title (in <>) to trans-edit. > which then provides the listing of

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

I had no idea that you could apply a template to more than one tiddler at a time. Is this in the documentation some place? Thanks! -- Mark On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 1:40:23 AM UTC-7, Stephan Hradek wrote: > > I've created a small example for you to reproduce on tiddlywiki.com > > Create some p

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

That's a great idea! It would be helpful if it opened "taller" as well. -- Mark On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 2:08:26 AM UTC-7, Birthe C wrote: > > Hi Stephan, > > That is really nice, thank you. > > For trans-editor > <$edit-text tiddler=<> class="full-width"/> > > > > .full-width {width: 100%;

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

This is really cool! I'd go with the reveal-widget (instead of a modal) to edit the paragraphs in place, unless there's a con to that method? On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 5:40:23 PM UTC+9, Stephan Hradek wrote: > > I've created a small example for you to reproduce on tiddlywiki.com > > Create

[tw5] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

Stephan, thank you for supplying such a nice reply! This is probably the way I would like to move along. To improve my knowledge of TiddlyWiki, I'm trying to understand the code pieces you supplied. I believe, I more or less understand it, except for the exact way how the variable <> is bein