Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-27 Thread Paul Frazee
Good thoughts, Dmitry. I will keep them in mind On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Dmitry Sokolov wrote: > Paul, > I think, Beaker is a huge step towards P2P Web. > Thank you for that. > > Most of my customers are working under Windows OS with files and folders. > Customers appreciate knowing how

Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-26 Thread Dmitry Sokolov
Paul, I think, Beaker is a huge step towards P2P Web. Thank you for that. Most of my customers are working under Windows OS with files and folders. Customers appreciate knowing how to backup and synchronise data because that is critical for their business. Introducing "wiki" or anything else is

Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-26 Thread Paul Frazee
I can answer some of those Beaker questions Another question, are these site files easily accessible on the file > system? Or is this another "Local store"? :) It's a local store but that's kind of an open question. We could move the files into an easily-accessible path (eg ~/Dats) though I do l

Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-26 Thread Arlen Beiler
Jeremy, I suppose Beaker has your spell checker that everyone wanted in TiddlyDesktop :) Also, if you do implement a tiddler-based format, would it use the standard data folder format? Or if you need a new format to get authoritative file names, could it possibly be ported back to NodeJS? I have

[twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-26 Thread PMario
On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 11:33:27 AM UTC+1, Mat wrote > > Very interesting. Only Mac so I can't try anything but just to make sure I > understand the implications for a TW context; > > - is the dat:// scheme not usable in regular browsers? (I find no public > site using it and basically n

Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-26 Thread Mat
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Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
> Very interesting. Only Mac so I can't try anything but just to make sure I > understand the implications for a TW context; Windows and Linux are coming, apparently. > - is the dat:// scheme not usable in regular browsers? (I find no public site > using it and basically no info on it outside

[twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-25 Thread Mat
Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Beaker Browser (https://beakerbrowser.com) is a very interesting new > browser forked from Chromium that adds the ability to serve sites to other > browsers over a peer-to-peer network. It seems like a perfect fit for > TiddlyWiki. > Very interesting. Only Mac so I can

[twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-22 Thread Dmitry Sokolov
Hi Jeremy, thank you for posting your experience on TiddlyWiki running on the Beaker, added to the list of TiddlyWiki platforms: http://confocal-manawatu.pbworks.com/w/page/113574373/TiddlyWiki I hope to write a comparison of the platforms in future. Is anything else missing from the list? Chee

Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Dmitry Sokolov
Hi Jeremy, how would you host/share tiddlers as separate files, please? Cheers, Dmitry On Thursday, 22 December 2016 03:44:36 UTC+13, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > It’s working really great. The API is super easy to use and cool. > > I’m thinking about ways of hosting TiddlyWiki’s with each tiddler as

Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Paul Frazee
Hey, I'm the author of Beaker. If things are working correctly, an ownership issue would be indicated by a ArchiveNotWritableError. At the moment, a ProtectedFileNotWritableError is thrown if you try to write `/` or `/dat.json`, the latter being a protected manifest file. Looking at this line

Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Riz You’ll need to fork the site before you can edit it. Best wishes Jeremy > On 21 Dec 2016, at 16:00, Riz wrote: > > > Error while saving: > Dat Saver Error: ProtectedFileNotWritableError > > > Linux Mint 18 Sarah > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed t

Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Riz
Error while saving: Dat Saver Error: ProtectedFileNotWritableError Linux Mint 18 Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywikidev+unsubsc

Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Jeremy Ruston
It’s working really great. The API is super easy to use and cool. I’m thinking about ways of hosting TiddlyWiki’s with each tiddler as a separate file so that we can do twederation efficiently; the API is fast enough. Best wishes Jeremy. > On 21 Dec 2016, at 14:42, PMario wrote: > > On Wedne

[twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-21 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 12:26:29 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > The next step is to use the Dat API to create a saver module for TW5 so > that one can edit and save directly. The resulting user experience will be > just like TiddlyFox; saving will just work. > > If it’s not clear t

[twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Matthew Lauber
I should point out, there are precompiled binaries for OSX only at the moment. Looking at the github page, instructions for installing from source on linux are available, and only took about 5 minutes for me to get up and running. On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 7:27:41 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Rus

[twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Jeremy Ruston
I’ve made a brief post to Beaker Browser’s mailing list: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/beaker-browser/9m8pQXshSeo/discussion Best wishes Jeremy. > On 21 Dec 2016, at 12:27, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > By the way, sadl

[twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Jeremy Ruston
By the way, sadly, Beaker Browser is macOS only at the moment :( > On 21 Dec 2016, at 12:19, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > I’ve now created a preliminary Dat file saver that works with Beaker Browser: > > https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/a20da9f5303fdd52a54d61b231450c2aa35d3804 > >

[twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Interesting new "Beaker Browser" with peer-to-peer hosting

2016-12-21 Thread Jeremy Ruston
I’ve now created a preliminary Dat file saver that works with Beaker Browser: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/a20da9f5303fdd52a54d61b231450c2aa35d3804 A testament to the API, this is by fa