Re:[time-nuts] Book: Phase Noise in Signal Sources by Robins.

2005-04-25 Thread Carl Walker
I do like the idea of using the RS-232 dongles whenever/wherever they are adequate for the job. While I've found the ISA (~$20) and PCI (>$100) cards from NI a good value and supported quite well under both Linux and Windows, I'm also a fan of the serial-to-488 converters. If you don't need the

Re: [time-nuts] Electric Pendulum Clocks

2005-04-25 Thread David Kirkby
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi David: The following web page is highley recomended if you're into precision pendulum clocks. It's titled Electric CLocks to differentiate from spring wound clocks. By all means get the latest Macromedia Shockwave player and spend some time viewing the animations with t

RE: [time-nuts] Q: HP-IB / 5370A pdfs

2005-04-25 Thread John Miles
> >As the proud new owner of a 5370A, a couple of requests of the list: > > > >1) What do you use/recommend for an HP-IB/IEEE-488 interface for > a PC? (PCI bus). It looks like these things go for more than I > paid for the 5370A! Linux compatibility? > > > > > I use the linux-gpib drivers and lib

Re: [time-nuts] Q: HP-IB / 5370A pdfs

2005-04-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Mike S wrote: >As the proud new owner of a 5370A, a couple of requests of the list: > >1) What do you use/recommend for an HP-IB/IEEE-488 interface for a PC? (PCI >bus). It looks like these things go for more than I paid for the 5370A! Linux >compatibility? > > I use the linux-gpib drivers and

[time-nuts] phase noise book

2005-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Pawlan
It has been several years. As I recall, I had several discussions about this with both Ulrich Rohde and later with Fred Walls (formerly the head the NIST phase noise labs). I think the errors we found were related to the calculation of the sideband phase noise and/or the use of a single cw car

Re: [time-nuts] Q: HP-IB / 5370A pdfs - Agilent 82357A USB / GPIB interface

2005-04-25 Thread bobhome
I've been using an Agilent 82357A USB interface. Plenty fast enough for most applicationa and a lot easier to move between machines including laptops... Found mine on ebay for about half price though they seem quite rare. - Original Message - From: "Mike S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sen

Re: [time-nuts] Q: HP-IB / 5370A pdfs

2005-04-25 Thread Scott Newell
At 07:07 PM 4/25/2005 -0400, Mike S wrote: >2) Anyone have a .pdf of the user/service manual? Mine, I believe, is a fairly late production (series 2311) for the "A." If not, I suppose I'll wait and see what Agilent is up to with the old docs. I have a 5370A book on hand. It's on load from a frien

Re: [time-nuts] Q: HP-IB / 5370A pdfs

2005-04-25 Thread David Kirkby
Mike S wrote: As the proud new owner of a 5370A, a couple of requests of the list: 1) What do you use/recommend for an HP-IB/IEEE-488 interface for a PC? (PCI bus). It looks like these things go for more than I paid for the 5370A! Linux compatibility? Generally everything works with the NI ones - s

Re: [time-nuts] Book: Phase Noise in Signal Sources by Robins.

2005-04-25 Thread David Kirkby
Jeffrey Pawlan wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, David Kirkby wrote: I won an auction on eBay for a book "PHASE NOISE IN SIGNAL SOURCES", IEE, by W P ROBINS. Yes I have this book and it has been helpful but not always correct. I do recommend owning it though. Jeffrey Pawlan Any specific instances of wh

Re: [time-nuts] Q: HP-IB / 5370A pdfs

2005-04-25 Thread Tom Van Baak
> As the proud new owner of a 5370A, a couple of requests of the list: > > 1) What do you use/recommend for an HP-IB/IEEE-488 interface for a PC? (PCI bus). It looks like these things go for more than I paid for the 5370A! Linux compatibility? Since the data rate is so slow (e.g., 1 Hz), I do all

Re: [time-nuts] Q: HP-IB / 5370A pdfs

2005-04-25 Thread Rick Karlquist
I just donated a 5370A manual and a 5370B manual to the Agilent Libraries manual collection. My understanding is that these will be scanned in. Rick Karlquist Mike S said: > As the proud new owner of a 5370A, a couple of requests of the list: > > 1) What do you use/recommend for an HP-IB/IEEE-48

RE: [time-nuts] Q: HP-IB / 5370A pdfs

2005-04-25 Thread John Miles
> As the proud new owner of a 5370A, a couple of requests of the list: > > 1) What do you use/recommend for an HP-IB/IEEE-488 interface for > a PC? (PCI bus). It looks like these things go for more than I > paid for the 5370A! Linux compatibility? I'm a fan of National Instruments, myself. $200

[time-nuts] Q: HP-IB / 5370A pdfs

2005-04-25 Thread Mike S
As the proud new owner of a 5370A, a couple of requests of the list: 1) What do you use/recommend for an HP-IB/IEEE-488 interface for a PC? (PCI bus). It looks like these things go for more than I paid for the 5370A! Linux compatibility? 2) Anyone have a .pdf of the user/service manual? Mine, I

Re: [time-nuts] RE: [tacgps] Telling UT+ to shut up...

2005-04-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Randy Warner wrote: >John, > >Reset is really about the only way to do it unless you can see what messages >are coming out and disable them one at a time. If you have LOTS of time you >can just cycle through all the messages and shut them off, but resetting is >probably the easiest thing to do.

Re: [time-nuts] Book: Phase Noise in Signal Sources by Robins.

2005-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Pawlan
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, David Kirkby wrote: > I won an auction on eBay for a book > "PHASE NOISE IN SIGNAL SOURCES", IEE, by W P ROBINS. > Yes I have this book and it has been helpful but not always correct. I do recommend owning it though. Jeffrey Pawlan __

[time-nuts] RE: [tacgps] Telling UT+ to shut up...

2005-04-25 Thread Randy Warner
John, Reset is really about the only way to do it unless you can see what messages are coming out and disable them one at a time. If you have LOTS of time you can just cycle through all the messages and shut them off, but resetting is probably the easiest thing to do. Randy Warner Senior Appl

Re: [time-nuts] Telling UT+ to shut up...

2005-04-25 Thread Javier
Hello, I think that it depends on each message. You can establish periodic send for several messages, and your unit must have one or more setup in that way. You must send the order to stop each one (for example, if it is sending the Eq message each seccond, you must send to the unit the @@Eq0 m

Re: [time-nuts] Telling UT+ to shut up...

2005-04-25 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi John: As far as I know all you can do is see what messages are being send and turn each one off. Have Fun, Brooke John Ackermann N8UR wrote: Is there a way to tell a Motorola UT+ that is outputting some unknown set of messages in binary format to stop all output? I don't want to do a complete

Re: [time-nuts] Telling UT+ to shut up...

2005-04-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Ackermann N8UR writes: >Is there a way to tell a Motorola UT+ that is outputting some unknown >set of messages in binary format to stop all output? I don't want to do >a complete reset, just have the output messages stop so I can start my >own polling from a kn

[time-nuts] Telling UT+ to shut up...

2005-04-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Is there a way to tell a Motorola UT+ that is outputting some unknown set of messages in binary format to stop all output? I don't want to do a complete reset, just have the output messages stop so I can start my own polling from a known state. I don't see any indication in the command reference

AW: [time-nuts] FTS 4060 Op Manual

2005-04-25 Thread Hubert v. Bonhorst
Does anyone have diagrams for the cesium module? Hubert DB7ME -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Had Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2005 19:24 An: time-nuts-febo.com Betreff: [time-nuts] FTS 4060 Op Manual Quick note to my fellow "nuts"

[time-nuts] Book: Phase Noise in Signal Sources by Robins.

2005-04-25 Thread David Kirkby
I won an auction on eBay for a book http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6956852700 "PHASE NOISE IN SIGNAL SOURCES", IEE, by W P ROBINS. I assume at least one of the time-nuts must have a copy. Just interested what you think of it. I've asked the seller if he has another copy. If

Re: [time-nuts] Electric Pendulum Clocks

2005-04-25 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi David: The following web page is highley recomended if you're into precision pendulum clocks. It's titled Electric CLocks to differentiate from spring wound clocks. By all means get the latest Macromedia Shockwave player and spend some time viewing the animations with the sound turned on.

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-25 Thread David Kirkby
Tom Van Baak wrote: This issue comes up a lot. If weren't for the glut of surplus Z3801A I'm sure the situation would be very different. Agreed. Brooks Shera did a fine job with his project and reached a wide audience with its QST publication. I was always under the impression it was published in

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tom Van Baak" writes: >> Don't forget that a PRS10 Rb from eBay and a Oncore M12+T from >> synergy-gps.com would be both cheaper and more stable. > >Good point. Has someone posted a Z3801A vs. >PRS10/M12+ comparison? I have a lot of data >on the PRS10 but haven't pu

[time-nuts] Re: HP 10811A vs 10811-60111

2005-04-25 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Are you saying that some HP- counters/timers/whatever would ship > with an 10811A, whereas another instrument with the same model number > and options ordered would ship with a different oscillator? It's hard to say. I've seen mil-spec versions of the 5238A shipped with a EGG 10811 clone.

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-25 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Don't forget that a PRS10 Rb from eBay and a Oncore M12+T from > synergy-gps.com would be both cheaper and more stable. Good point. Has someone posted a Z3801A vs. PRS10/M12+ comparison? I have a lot of data on the PRS10 but haven't put an M12+ to it yet. /tvb ___

[time-nuts] FTS 4060 Op Manual

2005-04-25 Thread Had
Quick note to my fellow "nuts" I have posted the Operations manual for the FTS 4060 C-Beam at the following address www.to-way.com/tf.html I will try and add other interesting items as I have time. Best to all, Had, K7MLR ___ time-nuts mailing list t

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tom Van Baak" writes: >This issue comes up a lot. If weren't for the glut of >surplus Z3801A I'm sure the situation would be very >different. Brooks Shera did a fine job with his project >and reached a wide audience with its QST publication. > >If your goal is a tur

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-25 Thread Tom Van Baak
This issue comes up a lot. If weren't for the glut of surplus Z3801A I'm sure the situation would be very different. Brooks Shera did a fine job with his project and reached a wide audience with its QST publication. If your goal is a turn-key 10 MHz frequency standard with short-term stability und

RE: [time-nuts] HP/Agilent and manuals...

2005-04-25 Thread Bill Hawkins
Friends, What cost-conscious modern organization is going to devote resources to scanning obsolete manuals? My devious mind thinks it is a way to dry up the competition that Agilent has with recycled HP equipment. The more complicated stuff, with microprocessor or logic gate arrays, is useless wi

Re: [time-nuts] HP/Agilent and manuals...

2005-04-25 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Chuck Harris wrote: Just thought I would post a note on what is happening with websites hosting HP/Agilent manuals. I have received a definative statement from Agilent on this. I will NOT post full details at this time, until I have received confirmation of permission from Agilent. But basical

[time-nuts] HP/Agilent and manuals...

2005-04-25 Thread Chuck Harris
Just thought I would post a note on what is happening with websites hosting HP/Agilent manuals. It seems that Agilent has decided to rein in on websites that are hosting copies of HP/Agilent manuals. They have sent "take-down" notices to BAMA, and ebay, amoung others. They seem to be most intere

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-25 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Mike Seguin wrote: - Original Message - From: "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A?? 6) If one needs to buy a manual on the Z3801A, that will add to its cost. When I bought mine from BuyLegacy 3 years ago it came with a pri

[time-nuts] hello time-nuts! looking for a fts 4060 manual

2005-04-25 Thread sebastian stolp
i'm new to this mailing list and a collector of timekeeping instruments mainly in the field of vinatge patek philippe quartz 19 inch rack models like early 60ties, 70ties MI,MS or T3 if that does ring a bell to the one or the other among you. (i can mail pics in case anybody is interested) i ha

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-25 Thread Mike Seguin
- Original Message - From: "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A?? > 6) If one needs to buy a manual on the Z3801A, that will add to its cost. When I bought mine from BuyLegacy 3 years ago it came with a printed manual... I

[time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-25 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I was going to build the GPS reference by Brooks Shera http://www.rt66.com/~shera/index_fs.htm and have bought the PCB and started populating it (not much yet). But now I am wondering if buying a used Z3801A might not be a better idea. My thoughts are: 1) Cost - the Z3801A will probably cost less t