Re: [time-nuts] Solving the UTC drift problem

2005-07-13 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Forbes writes: >A modest proposal: > >Instead of adding randomly-placed leap seconds to UTC or allowing UTC >to drift from UT1 etc, the timing community should just change the >second's definition from time to time as needed. That is, dither the >Cs transiti

Re: [time-nuts] Solving the UTC drift problem

2005-07-13 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Is this an old idea? This is an old idea. something similar to this was done from about 1960 to 1972 and was deemed to be too cumbersome. See http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/time/metrologia-leapsecond.pdf for

[time-nuts] Solving the UTC drift problem

2005-07-13 Thread David Forbes
A modest proposal: Instead of adding randomly-placed leap seconds to UTC or allowing UTC to drift from UT1 etc, the timing community should just change the second's definition from time to time as needed. That is, dither the Cs transition frequency between 9,192,631,770 Hz or ,780 Hz annually

Re: [time-nuts] FW: Bulletin C number 30

2005-07-13 Thread Joseph Gray
Less than 171 days until total destruction! :-) Chicken Little was right. - Original Message - From: "Tom Van Baak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:14 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FW: Bulletin C number 30

Re: [time-nuts] FW: Bulletin C number 30

2005-07-13 Thread Tom Van Baak
So, after a 7 year delay my nixie tube Leap Second countdown clock is back in action. Check out: http://www.leapsecond.com/java/nixie.htm If the page doesn't display properly with your web browser please let me know so I can fix it. /tvb - Original Message - > > INTERNATIONAL EART

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: UTC - A Cautionary Tale

2005-07-13 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jack Hudler" writes: >Personally I think we should recall the US delegation, line them up and have >them shot. :) "One has to also wonder how such a narrow working group (or even the larger ITU) believes itself empowered to make a unilateral change that would aff

RE: [time-nuts] Fwd: UTC - A Cautionary Tale

2005-07-13 Thread Jack Hudler
Personally I think we should recall the US delegation, line them up and have them shot. :) Loved Meeus's response! ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] I'm the new guy

2005-07-13 Thread Joseph Gray
The HP Appnote 200 (actually several) goes through counter basics. If you cant get them from Agilent let me know and I could share the onces I have. There are a few writeups here and there, but no one reaches totallity in the field. Cheers, Magnus Thanks for the offer, but I just downloade

Re: [time-nuts] I'm the new guy

2005-07-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] I'm the new guy Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:18:57 +0200 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Joseph Gray" writes: > > >I am currently trying a few simple > >experiments to get a better understandi

[time-nuts] Fwd: UTC - A Cautionary Tale

2005-07-13 Thread David Forbes
O time-nuts, I realize that this subject was beaten to death here last week, but here's a new twist. This is a little missive from an astronomer on the delicate subject of the divergence of UTC from UTx. It seems that those bastards in the precision timing community want to abandon UTC's lea

[time-nuts] AN 200 Fundamentals series

2005-07-13 Thread Tom Van Baak
The full set of classic AN 200 documents were/are on the HP/Agilent website. See also below: AN 200 Fundamentals of the Electronic Counters http://www.leapsecond.com/pdf/an200.pdf AN 200-1 Fundamentals of Microwave Frequency Counters http://www.leapsecond.com/pdf/an200-1.pdf AN 200-2 Fundamental

Re: [time-nuts] I'm the new guy

2005-07-13 Thread Joseph Gray
HP used to have a good application note about time interval measurements. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 Yes, I have that one "Fundamentals of Time Interval Measurements". Very informative. ___ time-nuts mailing list time-