[time-nuts] Manual

2006-03-30 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Folks, a good friend of mine got his hands on a surplus FLUKE 103 frequency & phase comparator. Has anyone of you a manual of this device that he can share with him? Or a pointer to to a pdf on the web? Regards Ulrich Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ortholzer Weg 1 27243 Gross Ippener

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Normand Martel writes: >Performance using clock granularity message: > > Better than 2ns, 1 sigma > Better than 6ns, 6 sigma > >Performance NOT using clock granularity message: > > Better than 10ns, 1 sigma > Better than 20ns, 6 sigma > >What's that clock granu

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-30 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Normand, > For my application (GPS > disciplined frequency standard), the 100PPS option > will surely help settle the frequency for the few > seconds after turn-on/reacquisition. Surely you can build a frequency standard in this way, but be prepared that it will not be a good one! Take a look at

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-30 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Normand Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : What's that clock granularity message? The M12+ reports the error in the PPS position. If you make your measurement, then add in its estimated error, you can get that level of precision. I'm not sure how you

Re: [time-nuts] Are there limits to the accuracy of clocks?

2006-03-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Bill Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Are there limits to the accuracy of clocks? Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:40:05 -0600 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "While we have been discussing stuff that is about 10E-20 below > what we can measure, is it possible that the li

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-30 Thread Normand Martel
Well, thanks for the advice! ...And also one other convincing (at least for me) feature: The M12+ has a choice of either a 1PPS precise signal or a 100PPS precise signal. For my application (GPS disciplined frequency standard), the 100PPS option will surely help settle the frequency for the few s

Re: [time-nuts] Are there limits to the accuracy of clocks?

2006-03-30 Thread Bill Hawkins
"While we have been discussing stuff that is about 10E-20 below what we can measure, is it possible that the limit of resolution of the measurement of time is determined by noise? Specifically, thermal or Johnson noise in those 50 ohm impedances that we use for our cabling." This didn't provoke a

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-30 Thread SAIDJACK
>From the leapsecond.com website, it seems the Trimble gets 2.15E-011 at 1000s intervalls. The M12+ achieves 2.9E-012 at 1000s intervalls. The M12+ is speced at 10ns 1-Sigma, the Trimble seems to be 15ns at 1-Sigma. There is an M12+ follow-up modell comming soon which is even better tha